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::::I would think AmphibiaWeb would be considered sufficiently reliable. (Of course, said page also notes that it's possible it actually is multiple species... it'd be greatly preferable for someone to write a review article including that, of course!) At this point, what is needed is the placement of the info (regarding vertebrates) somewhere in the article other than the lead, with the citation. ] (] | ]) 20:04, 15 March 2012 (UTC) |
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::::I would think AmphibiaWeb would be considered sufficiently reliable. (Of course, said page also notes that it's possible it actually is multiple species... it'd be greatly preferable for someone to write a review article including that, of course!) At this point, what is needed is the placement of the info (regarding vertebrates) somewhere in the article other than the lead, with the citation. ] (] | ]) 20:04, 15 March 2012 (UTC) |
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:::::Other than this bare fact, I don't know what more can be said about the issue, so I'm not sure where can we put it without it looking out of place. — ] <sup>]</sup> 20:28, 15 March 2012 (UTC) |
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:::::Other than this bare fact, I don't know what more can be said about the issue, so I'm not sure where can we put it without it looking out of place. — ] <sup>]</sup> 20:28, 15 March 2012 (UTC) |
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==Serbian== |
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Is correct? - ] 12:20, 5 September 2007 (UTC) |
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* Orthography is questionable. The correct spelling might be "човечија" or "човечја" - or both. http://sr.wikipedia.org/sr-ec/%D0%A7%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%87%D1%98%D0%B0_%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B0 <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 20:41, 6 September 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== The name "olm". == |
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I think the name "olm" should be explained. What is its etymology? The article discusses other names for it but I couldn't find anything on the name "olm". If anyone knows, please include it in the article. ] 12:56, 5 September 2007 (UTC) |
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: I haven't found anything on the etymology so far, but it might have something to do with the mythological figure of the feathered/plumed serpent in ]. That wouldn't have been the first time that olm's gills were mistaken for wings (see ]. --] 13:11, 6 September 2007 (UTC) |
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::Cheers! It seems a bit far-fetched, I have to say, though I can't offer a better explanation. Keep looking and I'll see what I can dig up too! ] 07:03, 7 September 2007 (UTC) |
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::: BTW, I didn't mean to imply that the Olmec themselves gave this name to Proteus (that would indeed have been far-fetched, as it doesn't live on that side of the ocean), only maybe some zoologist that got the association. --] 13:15, 7 September 2007 (UTC) |
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::::Ha, ha, no, I got that too! What I meant was, it's odd to think that the name of this animal should have come from a culture on another continent that had nothing to do with it. But as you say, someone may have made that connection. Still, it would be nice to know for sure...] 06:25, 10 September 2007 (UTC) |
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== pigmentation consistency == |
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Para. 2: "The olm's eyes have atrophied, leaving it blind, while its other senses, particularly those of smell and hearing, are acute. '''It also has no skin pigmentation'''." |
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Para. 3: "Its body is covered by a thin layer of '''skin, which contains very little of the pigment riboflavin''', making it yellowish-white or pink in color." |
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Which is it? ] ] 15:11, 5 September 2007 (UTC) |
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== Whatdoe sit eat? == |
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Lol I couldn't find the answer. It looks like a endoparasite but I haven't heard of any such amphibians. So what is it? Carnivore, herbivore...] 20:42, 5 September 2007 (UTC) |
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:To quote from the article itself, "It is a predatory animal, feeding on small crabs, snails and occasionally insects." ''''']]''''' <small>]</small> 20:43, 5 September 2007 (UTC) |
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:: Thanks. ] 20:22, 12 September 2007 (UTC) |
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== Larval characteristics == |
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"This is possibly because of, or perhaps the reason for, their retention of ]l characteristics (like external ]s) into adulthood." I removed this sentence because there is no reference, but left the information abut its external gills in. "Even breeding" underwater is that unusual in an amphibian? I replaced "atrophied" with "underdeveloped" or "undeveloped" because "atrophy" is used to describe the destruction of an organ by disease, not a vestigial organ. It is used like that sometimes, but it is better like this. The karst links to an article called Karst topography. It is an area of karst topography, but the animals live where the rainfall over the ages has created caves, fissures and similar areas underground. (] (]) 03:09, 24 December 2007 (UTC)) |
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== Croatian and serbian name == |
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I don't see the need for the serbian and croatian names to be stated, since the species is, as far as I know, endemic to Slovenia. The names are simply translations and by this logic we could pop a translation in every language into the article. ] (]) 14:50, 22 February 2008 (UTC) |
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:The species's habitat area extends from ] to ]. Read the article. --] <sup>]</sup> 10:30, 6 August 2008 (UTC) |
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== Some small changes proposed == |
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I would like to propose some small changes: |
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Introduction, 2nd paragraph: |
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“''...like the American amphibians, the axolotl and the mud puppy.''” |
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I propose to change this into “''...like the American amphibians axolotl and mud puppy.''” since the present formulation can be understood as axolotl and mud puppy being the only American amphibians. |
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Anatomy: Mechano- and electroreceptors, 1st paragraph: |
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“''(Bulog, personal observ.)''” |
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I think this needs some reference? |
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Ecology and life history, 2nd paragraph: |
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“''The tadpoles are 2 centimetres...''” |
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I think the term ‘tadpoles’ is normally only used for the very different young specimens of frogs and toads? I suggest using the word ‘larvae’ here, even if this means using this word several times in only a few sentences. |
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I also second the (quite old) above sections: |
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1) "Did anyone else notice this?" |
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Obviously, the display isn’t visual. But what kind of display do they use then? Do they make sounds, do they circle around each other, something else? |
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2) "pigmentation consistency" |
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After some years, this inconsistency is still there. I don’t have the books, so I don’t know what to keep and what to change. |
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] (]) 00:16, 30 April 2010 (UTC) |
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Tadpole is accepted for any amphibian. For the 'display' stuff, I think it is a matter of territorial battles rather than strictly a display, with the territory controlled by one contributing to mating success, or perhaps some pheromone stuff? Display is probably not the ideal word, but is generally what is used for any sort of ritual mating stuff. As far as the pigment stuff, I'm pretty sure it just has low levels of pigment, don't have any sources on that though :P ] (]) 18:36, 18 May 2010 (UTC) |
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== Copyright/plagarism issue that needs to be corrected immediately == |
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== Copyright/plagarism issue that needs to be corrected immediately == |
I think that the author responsible for that statement means "the only European cave-dwelling caudate" - the order of salamanders and such. Anybody know what's right here? Peter Delmonte 04:01, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
