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hi, some editors won't let me mention clear statements of fact in said article nor will they let me include statements by three highly authoritative sources. i wonder if you could assist or direct me to someone who could. thanks--] (]) 21:04, 8 January 2013 (UTC) hi, some editors won't let me mention clear statements of fact in said article nor will they let me include statements by three highly authoritative sources. i wonder if you could assist or direct me to someone who could. thanks--] (]) 21:04, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

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Not trying to vandallize

Please help. I can't log in. My user page seems intact. You can reply there if you prefer. I could probably create a new account, but I'd like to keep my name and edits, and the info on my userpage. I keep getting a message that I might need to enable cookies, but I've been through the menu, and that option doesn't appear available (nor to disable them). ---Ragityman--- — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.171.187.11 (talk) 15:09, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Which browser are you using? What exactly happens when you enter username and password at Special:UserLogin? If you get an error message then please copy it. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:24, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
I typed you a long message, and managed to delete it, so this time, I'm posting it in stages.
The error message now reads: "Incorrect password or confirmation code entered. Please try again." I believe it was longer yesterday, but ...
I'm sure the browser info is here somewhere:
"Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Android 2.1-update 1; en-us; M860 build/ERE27) /AppleWebKit/530.17 (KHTML, like Gecko) version/4.0 Mobile Safari/530.17".
I'm now fairly sure that cookies are enabled. It's been months since I logged in: March, I think, and I may have changed my password to strengthen it. In that case, I think I'm in trouble. I seem to remember reading on one of the pages that WP doesn't recover passwords.
NOW I'm getting the message I saw yesterday:

"There was an unexpected error logging in. Please try again. If the problem persists, it may be because you have cookies disabled, and you should check that they are enabled in your browser settings."

Should it tell me something when I get different messages on different log-in attempts?
Thanks for any light you can shed.
---Ragityman--- — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.171.178.22 (talk) 23:51, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
Your account has email enabled. If you can still receive mails at the stored address then you can request a new password at Special:PasswordReset. The old password will continue to work. I have Windows and four browsers but not Safari. http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=Safari/3.0/en/9277.html may help if it's really a cookie problem. Can you try logging in from another browser or computer? If it works elsewhere then it sounds more likely to be a cookie problem in your browser as the most frequent message says. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:28, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
Thanks again! I'll let you know.

69.171.187.82 (talk) 01:14, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Well, I'm finally logged on! I have been trying to log on for MONTHS! Some of you may have figured out that I was doing my editing while not logged in. I've been using a handheld device with a Safari browser, and I'm still not sure what the problem was (I had forgotten my password, to complicate matters). I may only be able to log on at the library for a while, but the strangest thing is that I can log on to Species.Wikimedia, Wiktionary, and Commons on the handheld, but not onto enWikipedia. I will attempt to load another browser on the handheld (Huawei M860), if support says it's possible. I'm reading in the news that some of the Safari browsers reject cookies by default. I have changed the settings numerous times to "accept," but the way it jumps when I try to log on, not letting me input the password sometimes at all, or not letting me hit "submit" before leaving the page, makes me suspect a software or hardware problem in·compatibility. Anyway, I'm not gone, just inhibited. I'll figure it out.
Thank you for your help, here, and at the Help Desk. I suspect that back last year, when I changed my password, I started the process of changing email address, but never acknowledged the confirmation email at the "new" email box, probably because I lost access about that time. I found the "confirm" link, but it was a year old, and I think they're only good for a week or so. I requested a password link several times, butI never received a link at either box until I requested one from another project, so I guess I kind slipped in the back door. Once I changed my password on another Wikiproject, with universal login, it eventually changed here as well. Maybe a strategy for someone else, if the same convoluted situation arises.
Ragityman (talk) 01:00, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
When I received an email from another wikiproject, I immediately made contact and requested password assistance. I can now log on everywhere except enWP, where I still receive "unexpected login error encountered..." OrangeMike linked me to the RefDesk/Computing, where I'm leaving all the particulars. Cookies are definitely enabled, but I still suspect the browser.
theRagityman69.171.178.90 (talk) 22:28, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Main Page history

Hi,
I just for the first time noticed that we have WP:Main Page history.
Am I seeing this right that you are creating the history by hand? I'm asking since I'd have a bot ready that could take over that task. It only took five minutes to write so no worries if you'd rather keep doing it yourself. :)
Cheers, Amalthea 15:22, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

I do it by hand in 1 minute each day. I have considered asking for a bot. If you can reliably run it every day then you are welcome to take over. Unlike normal archive tasks, it has to be every day. I missed a few days in 2011 so if you do the same then it's OK. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:00, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
Right, I noticed the "A few dates are missing" which in part prompted me to ask. It will be as reliable as the server it's running on, which means it /should/ never be down. That's a good point though, I can set up a bot on a second server supervising the task, to raise an alarm in case. :)
BRFA filed: Misplaced Pages:Bots/Requests for approval/Amalthea (bot).
Amalthea 16:42, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
Hi, do you want to comment regarding the DYK question at the BRFA? Cheers, Amalthea 13:45, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Coord

hello,

thanks for fixing the coord template on User:GreatOrangePumpkin/Sandbox13! Is it possible to display instead the coordinates something random? Like in . Thanks.--♫GoP♫TN 13:28, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

I don't know what you mean by "something random". Are you referring to the link in the upper right corner saying "Karte mit allen Koordinaten: OSM, Google oder Bing"? That is made with de:Vorlage:All Coordinates. The English equivalent is Template:GeoGroup. I have never worked with it. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:43, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
No, I mean the (Stadtplan) in the "Stadtteil" column. Regards.--♫GoP♫TN 14:12, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
The English Template:Coord cannot do that. See Template talk:Coord/Archive 1#Quick one and Template talk:Coord/Archive 9#Link text. I don't think there is any alternative way to do it. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:27, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Thank You

This is just to thank you for your kind help with my proposal to delete an article. Thank you! RomanSpa (talk) 23:24, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Republishers

Figured it is past time to create Misplaced Pages:Republishers. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  12:26, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

MSU Interview

Dear PrimeHunter,

My name is Jonathan Obar user:Jaobar, I'm a professor in the College of Communication Arts and Sciences at Michigan State University and a Teaching Fellow with the Wikimedia Foundation's Education Program. This semester I've been running a little experiment at MSU, a class where we teach students about becoming Misplaced Pages administrators. Not a lot is known about your community, and our students (who are fascinated by wiki-culture by the way!) want to learn how you do what you do, and why you do it. A while back I proposed this idea (the class) to the community HERE, where it was met mainly with positive feedback. Anyhow, I'd like my students to speak with a few administrators to get a sense of admin experiences, training, motivations, likes, dislikes, etc. We were wondering if you'd be interested in speaking with one of our students.


So a few things about the interviews:

  • Interviews will last between 15 and 30 minutes.
  • Interviews can be conducted over skype (preferred), IRC or email. (You choose the form of communication based upon your comfort level, time, etc.)
  • All interviews will be completely anonymous, meaning that you (real name and/or pseudonym) will never be identified in any of our materials, unless you give the interviewer permission to do so.
  • All interviews will be completely voluntary. You are under no obligation to say yes to an interview, and can say no and stop or leave the interview at any time.
  • The entire interview process is being overseen by MSU's institutional review board (ethics review). This means that all questions have been approved by the university and all students have been trained how to conduct interviews ethically and properly.


Bottom line is that we really need your help, and would really appreciate the opportunity to speak with you. If interested, please send me an email at obar@msu.edu (to maintain anonymity) and I will add your name to my offline contact list. If you feel comfortable doing so, you can post your name HERE instead.

If you have questions or concerns at any time, feel free to email me at obar@msu.edu. I will be more than happy to speak with you.

Thanks in advance for your help. We have a lot to learn from you.


Sincerely,


Jonathan Obar --Jaobar (talk) 07:26, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Young June Sah --Yjune.sah (talk) 03:14, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Help desk

Left another message at the helpdesk re: Bluetooth spam. It really is there. I won't explain again here, as I'm typing w/ my thumb again. Thanks for all you do. Rags69.171.187.83 (talk) 18:21, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

You were exactly right about the purge. I have added a "purge" button in Gadgets under preferences on each project where it is offered.
Regards,
Ragityman (talk) 01:16, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Journal cover image

Thanks for your help desk response. The cover image is located at http://rsnr.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/current

Great if you can upload it.

I hope to add images to all our journals (http://en.wikipedia.org/Royal_Society#Publishing) - would it be possible to become 'autoconfirmed'?

Thanks Phil — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.63.75.2 (talk) 13:49, 21 February 2012.

Copied to Misplaced Pages:Help desk#Uploading journal cover image. You can reply there by clicking the "edit" link to the right of the section heading. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:44, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Cabinet of Helle Thorning-Schmidt

Hi PrimeHunter. When I use Mozilla Firefox 9.0.1 (Windows Vista Home Premium Service Pack 2) the image is overlapping the table. When I use Microsoft Internet Explorer 8, the image and table are nicely separated. If I ad an {{-}} there will be a huge void. --Regards, Necessary Evil (talk) 23:28, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

I'm not a layout expert. How is ? PrimeHunter (talk) 00:15, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
Well done PrimeHunter! Nice job, image and table are now separated in Firefox too. --Regards, Necessary Evil (talk) 01:01, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thanks for helping me with my questions about the SUL request. Everything worked out well and I'm finally in possession of my global username. --Autofan (talk) 22:57, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Glad to be of help. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:24, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Help:User contributions

Would you mind checking my changes to Help:User contributions? -- John of Reading (talk) 13:43, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

Deletions

Thank you for deleting my user pages. Allen (talk) 01:25, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

March 2012

Welcome to Misplaced Pages. It might not have been your intention, but your recent edit removed maintenance templates from 2012 BNP Paribas Open – Women's Singles. When removing maintenance templates, please be sure to either resolve the problem that the template refers to, or give a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry, as your removal of this template has been reverted. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia, and if you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you.

Thank You!

Hey dude, thanks for responding so quickly! I'll try and understand how to use Misplaced Pages. So far, I really like it! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pykaboo (talkcontribs)

Thanks

(1) thanks for pouring cool water on my (as you say misexecuted) afd on the Spanish accent REDIRECT for the Brazilian tennis player. (2) No, you're right I wasn't clear with the note left at those 6 talk pages, but if editors follow the relevant link I gave to first mention they'll hopefully see the example used is François Mitterrand. I deliberately didn't give Lead Foreign cyrillic example of Chernivtsi Oblast (Ukrainian: Чернівецька область, Chernivets’ka oblast’) because these aren't non-Latin name BLPs. Although maybe I should have to show that MOS addresses both Latin-alphabet and non-Latin.

Incidentally, I'm sure that there's a policy to prevent WP:SHORTCUT to MOS multiplying but WP:FIRSTMENTION might be a useful shortcut? In ictu oculi (talk) 02:02, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
I don't think a shortcut is needed for that section and I'm not fond of WP:FIRSTMENTION for a page only about biographies (although it already has WP:OPENPARAGRAPH). If I saw the shortcut FIRSTMENTION without knowing the context then my first guess would be the same target as WP:BOLDTITLE. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:28, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

Opinion requested on use of freeware-program example for game of Reversi

Hi, PrimeHunter. This is Julzes (on machine with antiquated browser). I am considering using an example of a game on the article in title here, and feel that rather than trying to select a specific noteworthy game in human play a game simply of WZebra, a freeware program of quite high quality (I have no association with its author, if that is of any import for a freeware program), playing itself might permit the most ideal discussion. Do you see where I might expect serious objections to this idea? I should 'be myself' tomorrow at the college library. Thanks for your reply. "I have no idea" would be perfectly reasonable if that is the case for your best answer; you just are still the most natural person for me to ask just about anything because I really have not spent a lot of time editing yet.173.15.152.77 (talk) 02:58, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you want to do. Do you want to add all moves of a software-played Reversi game to the article Reversi, and then discuss the moves made by the software? That would be inappropriate for a Misplaced Pages article. WP:GAMEGUIDE may also be relevant depending exactly what you want. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:09, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Well, the primary ideas involved were to illustrate A) Both of the two acceptable means of recording games and B) In a clear way why/how computer Reversi/Othello play is relatively stronger versus humans than is generally (or has been, at least) the case for games; but there was the intention of lightly connecting the specific game to each of the sub-sections in Strategic Elements. Is the objection that you have or believe others would have that the game would be generated by software (and so might be construed as promoting author or some version not available for free)? I also intend to include an old quote by a former tournament player of some note to the effect that the game essentially lacks a middlegame (disputable, but with some sense at the highest level of play), along with remarks that a 10x10 version is available and would almost certainly be needed if the game were of the order of popularity of chess. An illustrative game--either from a human world championship game or per my idea--could serve an auxiliary role for the (intended to be brief) discussion of this particular matter. The intention generally is not to provide a full accounting for people who want to be proficient in the game--something that arguably is being done to a fair degree with chess opening articles here--but basically just to make the subject relatively clearer and a bit more complete (by virtue of increased clarity and also in other ways). The objective on the whole is to provide visual as well as verbal information.Julzes (talk) 20:19, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

It sounds like original research to me if you base an article on your own run of a program and you draw conclusions from the actions of the program. I don't know whether you have access to reliable published sources about Reversi games but that would be better. You might make up individual positions or take it from a software game to illustrate a published point about positions similar to that, but a whole game seems like too much for me. Some of what you want to do also sounds more like something for Computer Othello. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:37, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Well, I am not in a rush to do whatever it is I had in mind. It is probably not all that important--or would not be--to 99% of people who would want to know the material to be able to find it here. I don't think what I was planning to do was OR, formally. I may not have been too clear on that. I had no plans to draw conclusions from the run, just to illustrate conclusions already out there, to the extent that part was to be about the specific game rather than mere illustration of any old game with its notation. I do have article material, plenty. Just nothing terribly recent at home, and I did not want to relatively over-focus on any one or two people's play (though the quote I wish to use is, of course, by a person). I don't know the purpose of existence of Computer Othello, to be frank. I believe that was started by somebody wanting to make a sale. Anything on artificial intelligence focused on Othello/Reversi does not need to be said in an article on it. What is there to say other than it is easy to start research on it and it is/was popular to do, as opposed to games with more complicated rule-sets? I don't know (and perhaps I am wrong).Julzes (talk) 00:02, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

I probably have too much of a library-time limit to finish this article, as it turns out. If you are in contact with Jason Earls, who appears to have dedicated a lot of his time to it, maybe he could be advised if he also has already done any wikipedia editing. Other than that, I will see what can be done by me over the next 2 days.Julzes (talk) 04:06, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for responding

Thanks for responding. How do I get help with a disruptive editor? Smm201`0 (talk) 02:39, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

I haven't examined this dispute but see Misplaced Pages:Dispute resolution for general advice. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:48, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Usurp Request

First of all, I wanted to thank you for your help and rapid response at the Help Desk, do you think I should be allowed to take over the Commons username? It seems like it is usually granted to the more active user, but no one seems to be responding to my requests. Gsingh (talk) 03:10, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Commons is unusual because uploads there can be used in all other projects, while other projects only affect themselves. I don't have the power but it seems fair to me if you get it. It can be granted by EugeneZelenko who often edits the request page. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:00, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
Ok. No one seem's to be responding to my request, I'll have to wait I guess. Gsingh (talk) 00:55, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

WikiBarnstar

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Hi PrimeHunter, thanks for your wonderful assistance with the Acehnese Infobox Country template. It is much appreciated. Rgds, XoXo (talk) 04:52, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
Thanks! PrimeHunter (talk) 11:52, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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For helping me with the archiving problems and for helping other users a lot. pluma 22:45, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
Thanks! PrimeHunter (talk) 23:37, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Brilliant numbers

Hi, Jens. I just familiarized myself with this term/concept (that I had heard of previously) through Dario Alperin's website. Noting that there is no article here, I wanted your opinion as to notability before contemplating adding one. Thanks. Also, if you have run across any restrictions or generalizations, I would be interested (regardless of wikipedia notability). Things like '...for any base from 2 through 10,...' or '...for all bases 2 through 10, ...' (the latter being extremely restrictive, of course). Julzes (talk) 11:44, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

They appear to fail 1 and 2 at Misplaced Pages:Notability (numbers)#Notability of sequences of numbers so an article might be nominated for deletion. A search on "brilliant numbers" at OEIS or Prime Curios! gives many related sequences and results. It's easy to be brilliant in many bases when the prime factors are closely together. The square of a prime is brilliant in all bases. One of my interests for sequences is terms as closely together as possible, excluding abnormal cases like the four even brilliant numbers. OEIS:A083284 is brilliant "twins" (n, n+2). A quick search shows that 9472781 starts a brilliant quadruplet n + {0, 2, 6, 8}. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:49, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Okay, so I won't write unless you lean toward thinking it has around a 50% shot of non-deletion. The scarcity remark I made was so wrong because I was thinking not of brilliant numbers but of semiprimes with factor-lengths differing by 1. Yes, would be common to have brilliant numbers in many bases. Not thinking clearly on definition. Thanks. Btw, really annoyed not to have a computer working at home. Will never buy from that particular manufacturer again for more than just that reason (power button, most likely)!Julzes (talk) 15:57, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

If you do a Google search and cite several sources, including more than one OEIS sequence and at least one Prime Curios entry, then I guess an article would have above 50% chance of staying. Editors tend to require less notability for math than some other topics. I wouldn't say delete if I saw a deletion nomination but I would have to see the article before saying whether I would abstain or say keep. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:25, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Oh, that sounds like a 'Go'. I will probably do it on Monday, in that case. It should take less than an hour, based on what you said about sources, so not much loss if it ends up eliminated, and decent odds to justify.Julzes (talk) 02:16, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

I have noted that the coiner of the term brilliant number is actually Danish, but so far have not established his own notability beyond this. I am a little unclear on how I should represent him in my article beyond 'a man named Peter Wallrodt', so if you could provide an appropriate modifying phrase I might use for his activities (his employer, general line of work or notable activity area of any sort--as publicly available), it might be very helpful (My language proficiency does not extend much further than English at present, unfortunately). Also, it would be a good thing for wikipedia to provide an option to move an article in creation to the sandbox for editors. On occasion, this might be useful in not creating a frustrated editor who has found that he or she does not have time to create a finished work (I expect to have the article done well enough soon, but it is causing a minor fear I will have wasted some effort).Julzes (talk) 03:25, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

I don't know anything about Peter Wallrodt but Wallrodt is not a Danish name. A search found a German Peter Wallrodt at http://www.nachhilfe-gruenstadt.de/html/unser_team.html but I haven't confirmed it's him. If you saw a .de language code then that's Germany (Deutschland). .dk is Denmark. 'a man named Peter Wallrodt' sounds odd. Peter is a common male name. You can just say 'Peter Wallrodt'. I'm not sure what your move concern is but see Misplaced Pages:Moving a page. You can work on a draft in a user subpage, for example User:Julzes/sandbox which should be linked on "My sandbox" at the top of all pages, or User:Julzes/Brilliant number. You can also use {{subst:AFC submission/draftnew}} at top of Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Brilliant number to say it's a draft and should not be reviewed yet. I guess you got to Misplaced Pages:Article wizard/Ready for submission and chose "Create submission for review" instead of "Create new article draft". The latter starts the page with {{subst:AFC submission/draftnew}}. The text of a declined AFC submission is not deleted unless there are serious issues like copyright violation, vandalism or defamation. It will probably be declined in the current state but you get a chance to improve and resubmit. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:00, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Okay. Thanks much. Enough information to save the work even were it to be declined, so no rush tonight...is good news. I was overly optimistic about my capacity for completing the thing in one go from the library, and lack a bit of wikipedia experience and other things. Sorry to have bothered you. Right, I should really have gotten that extension as Germany. A little distracted, not quite that stupid.Julzes (talk) 23:36, 10 April 2012 (UTC)And the other above was intended for here, of course, but no need to rush, so you need not contact if you could (and he is probably a little over-involved in any case). I will use that template if I have a moment later tonight.Julzes (talk) 23:39, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Behind schedule, but I suppose it will sit as a draft more or less indefinitely. Thanks for assisting on wikipedia stuff I really should know already. I just have the most awful technical limits right now. But, still, I should have gotten to the point where I can just erase the welcome section on my talk page with all the technical links (placed by Plumbago). I really haven't even made time to start.Julzes (talk) 19:23, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

I should say I am really quite upset that I lost my computer while a good way through the process of exhaustively establishing that 8338 is (if it is) the first number to generate 5 primes in reverse concatenations. It would be done by around this date, most likely.Julzes (talk) 19:30, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

The Guidance Barnstar
For helping users so quickly on the Help Desk! Thanks for all your help! Gsingh (talk) 15:39, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
Thanks! PrimeHunter (talk) 18:01, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Heroes Welcome UK

Dear PM Just to say thanks for the advice and prompt help!Fwe506 (talk) 14:21, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Re the Updated logo, fantastic, dont know how you managed that but a big thanks! Fwe506 (talk) 09:22, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Deleted material

You piqued my interest! How do you retrieve deleted content?
Best Wishes Ankh.Morpork 19:43, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

I'm an administrator. Only administrators can see deleted pages. See also Misplaced Pages:Requests for undeletion. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:56, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Invitation to events in June and July: bot, script, template, and Gadget makers wanted

I invite you to the yearly Berlin hackathon, 1-3 June. Registration is now open. If you need financial assistance or help with visa or hotel, then please register by May 1st and mention it in the registration form.

This is the premier event for the MediaWiki and Wikimedia technical community. We'll be hacking, designing, teaching, and socialising, primarily talking about ResourceLoader and Gadgets (extending functionality with JavaScript), the switch to Lua for templates, Wikidata, and Wikimedia Labs.

We want to bring 100-150 people together, including lots of people who have not attended such events before. User scripts, gadgets, API use, Toolserver, Wikimedia Labs, mobile, structured data, templates -- if you are into any of these things, we want you to come!

I also thought you might want to know about other upcoming events where you can learn more about MediaWiki customization and development, how to best use the web API for bots, and various upcoming features and changes. We'd love to have power users, bot maintainers and writers, and template makers at these events so we can all learn from each other and chat about what needs doing.

Check out the the developers' days preceding Wikimania in July in Washington, DC and our other events.

Best wishes! - Sumana Harihareswara, Wikimedia Foundation's Volunteer Development Coordinator. Please reply on my talk page, here or at mediawiki.org. Sumana Harihareswara, Wikimedia Foundation Volunteer Development Coordinator 01:18, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Some Bacon Explosion for you

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I thought you might need some food to maintain your energy from all of your Help Desk work so I sent you some bacon explosion Ryan Vesey Review me! 00:54, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Re : Red links turned to blue

Firstly, I really appreciated your help at the Help page. Thanks so much. However, I wonder if I may bother you for some technical advice. May I? Hope so.

All the skins I have tried (including Chic) are problematic: they all make my pages appear very cluttered (excepting Chic, which has the problem of garbling some of the text, due to, I think, the typeface it uses. That is, it smushes text together in odd places, thus displaying words with the letters all on top of eachother). But I don't want to ask you about Chic: I wonder if you know how I can go back to MySkin, which worked perfectly well up until about 3 days ago, when all of a sudden all of my red links turned to blue. Can adding something from the page you suggested I read (Misplaced Pages:Link color) to my User:Hamamelis/myskin.css change them back to red? The Misplaced Pages:Link color page was very confusing for me, as I am not very computer literate, and this page seems to assume a lot of pre-knowledge about computer language. I am willing to try to learn how to do it, if you are willing to try to teach me (at least enough to fix this). I did try clearing my cache, and logging on and off, first, before changing the skin. I also tried to edit User:Hamamelis/vector.css and User:Hamamelis/myskin.css (only showing previews - no saving) and the text from Misplaced Pages:Link color just looked like, well, text. Obviously I am missing something.

The other thing I wonder is, why'd this happen in the first place!? Why did it all of a sudden change like that on its own?? Am I the only one this has happened to? I don't assume you would know, but maybe you have some insights that I don't have. I can't find an example (doing searches on Misplaced Pages) of anyone else having this problem.

Don't mean to be a pest. If you don't have the answers, that's alright. I just find this all so disconcerting. I am left with just asking 'Why'?

Thanks, again, for whatever your answer may be. Hamamelis (talk) 08:11, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

I don't know whether it's a recent change but I also see blue links as default for non-existing pages in MySkin. I have posted to Misplaced Pages:Village pump (technical)#Redlinks are blue in MySkin under Misplaced Pages:Village pump (technical)#1.20wmf1 deployment complete (deployed 3 days ago). The issue hasn't been reported before but MySkin has few users. The links became red after I saved this line from Misplaced Pages:Link color in User:PrimeHunter/myskin.css:

.mw-body a:link.new { color: #FF0000; } /* new links */

For you it is User:Hamamelis/myskin.css. It only takes effect after saving. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:47, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
PrimeHunter, I think it would be safe to say that you "saved MySkin"! The redlinks are now a brighter red than they used to be, but it works!! If you need assistance with anything in the future, please don't hesitate to ask! Thank you so very much!! :) Hamamelis (talk) 13:14, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
Thanks. You can change #FF0000. Compare for example #FF0000 and #CC2200. I'm not sure what controls the color of visited links to non-existing pages. In MySkin they still look the same (purple) as visited links to existing pages. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:40, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
Well, I kind of like the red-link's new color - like pinkish-orange flourescent Play-Doh (a color I remember well, but, sad to say, is unrepresented at the current article here). Regarding visited red-links and visited created articles, I'm getting the same thing. I will experiment with it and see what I can find. But that is much less of an issue for my uses: I add lists of already-created plant species articles to my watch list, and when I save it, it always shows both the article name, and its corresponding talk page; when a talk page is a red-link, I know that it still needs one. By this process I have added hundreds of talk pages, in which case they are now more visible to plants editors who otherwise may have overlooked them for who-knows-how long. But, it would be nice have a color other than purple for both. I'll see what I can come up with. Hamamelis (talk) 20:32, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

A Mountain for you!

The Red-link Summit Award
From Borneo, hope you enjoy this picture of Mount Kinabalu. The property itself is not mine to give, but you deserve something better than an ordinary "thank you"! Hamamelis (talk) 13:27, 26 April 2012 (UTC)


Question about Misplaced Pages's most viewed page

I had a question for you about Misplaced Pages's most viewed page. If you look at the page view statistics for Misplaced Pages's articles, there is only one thing which comes ahead of Misplaced Pages: Main Page, and that is:

http://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Export/SynchronizationStartTime

Another Wikipedian in the past told me that you know about this page of Misplaced Pages, so I shall be very appreciative if you could explain to me what it is. Presumably, it just refers to the times that different people log in to Misplaced Pages - am I correct? You can leave any answers here or the talk page of my userpage. Thank you in advance for any help here, ACEOREVIVED (talk) 20:17, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

I don't know know more than when I posted to Talk:Main Page/Archive 163#Question about page view statistics. Note that the most viewed list at http://stats.grok.se/en/top is still based on December 2010. This is the only month with a large count for http://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Export/SynchronizationStartTime, and it was all on one day. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:28, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Many thanks for your responses here - all appreciated. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 23:24, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
You are unbelievably helpful!!! Hope you can keep it up. SPhilbrick(Talk) 14:10, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
Thanks! PrimeHunter (talk) 14:11, 30 April 2012 (UTC)


List of families article

Dear Sir I am very very thankful for your kind help. I appreciate the coperation that one receives here on WP. With much gratitude and very good wishes, AsadUK200 (talk) 08:12, 2 May 2012 (UTC)AsadUK200

Clickable Image Map

But how do I get the coordinates? Like they have done here: poly 133 343 124 287 159 224 189 228 195 291 222 311 209 343 209 354 243 362 292 466 250 463 Dr Johnson - Dictionary writer poly 76 224 84 255 43 302 62 400 123 423 121 361 137 344 122 290 111 234 96 225 Boswell - Biographer.........--Jagadhatri(২০১২) 10:44, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Strange table placement on Reversi

Unless it is a defect unique to the computer I am on, the Championship table in this article is appearing in the wrong place. From a superficial look at how it is edited, it looks as though it should be in the right place, but I have it (aside from the asterisk on the Monte Carlo tournament) all immediately following 'External Links'. It should be an easy fix (I think), but I don't know what is wrong with the coding/writing (and perhaps it is just something wrong on this end). I'd appreciate a fix or instructions on how I might do it.Julzes (talk) 15:37, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

I have fixed it by closing the table. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:26, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. Sorry to have had to bother you with that, but neither of the ways I have thought of to remedy the problem on my own--finding what was different from the edit at the time prior to the vandalism I had just fixed or looking at how a table that was correct on a different page was edited differently--occurred to me until this morning, and I did assume it was something pretty simple.Julzes (talk) 12:12, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Template

I want to gain deep knowlege of template codes for use in this and other wikis. Whats the best website to learn it from? Pass a Method talk 20:30, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

I don't know better than Help:Template and pages linked there. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:39, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Help desk talkback

I've been spamming the talk pages of various help desk editors to let them know about the help desk talkback message that was recently created. I apologize if you knew of this already. If you don't know about it, information can be found at Misplaced Pages talk:Help desk#Help desk talkback script. Ryan Vesey Review me! 22:15, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Template:Foam scales and properties

Very neat solution. Nice work Peter (Southwood) : 06:35, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

A question about no-follow links

As a result of some email exchanges via OTRS, I ended up making an edit to Software license to add a reference. The question I received is whether that link is a "no-follow" link. I have only the vaguest notion of what this means, and my quick search turned up nothing helpful. Can you fill me in, ideally, both generally on what the term means, and specifically, whether the answer is yes or no for this reference. (I think the term has something to d with whether the link will be picked up in Google, but I'm not even sure of that, much less any more detail.)--SPhilbrick(Talk) 00:15, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Yes, all external links in Misplaced Pages are nofollow. See meta:nofollow and nofollow. Specifically, the html of the rendered article says <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.softwareresearches.net/">"Software Licensing"</a>. nofollow means that the link does not contribute to the PageRank of the target in Google, and similar ranking systems in some other search engines. This means that the target does not get higher placement in Google search result pages. Many webmasters, especially at commercial sites, care greatly about their page rank and search engine placement because it affects how many visitors they get. Google may still follow a nofollow link to discover and index the target page if it wasn't already in their database. Some Misplaced Pages mirrors do not set nofollow so with time, an external link in Misplaced Pages may be copied elsewhere and affect the page rank of the target. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:43, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
Thanks, that is very helpful, I will pass it along.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 11:24, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Patience barnstar

A Barnstar! The Patience Barnstar
I award this barnstar to you for your patience at the Help Desk.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:02, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
Thanks! PrimeHunter (talk) 01:08, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Barnstar of Diplomacy

Toca Rivera

I'd just like to thank you for clearing up the misunderstanding I had with the main "contributor" to the page for Noel "Toca" Rivera, and giving me the proper attributions. After all, this would be the first wikipedia page I have ever made a contribution more than simple grammar/spelling errors. And I apologize for all the edits I made to this barnstar, but I'm really new to using talk pages. Joshbob10 (talk) 18:17, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! PrimeHunter (talk) 18:56, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Megaprimes

Do you think creating this article would be a good idea? Or should it perhaps be included in the megaprime article? -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlkctb) 21:18, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Megaprimes will be discovered faster and faster. I don't think it's practical for Misplaced Pages to maintain such a list. Largest known prime could make a more manageable top-10 list. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:20, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
I expanded the list in Largest known prime to a top-10 list. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlkctb) 09:26, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

"See Also" for Home prime

If you have any thoughts on an appropriate way of connecting the idea behind RSA Challenge and the unique 2-digit home prime problem (about 49 and 77) by adding links to other articles; I know this is not exactly an editing issue directly, with all that needs to be done here and the relative insignificance of the problem, but perhaps there is some natural way to improve the article that could increase the power devoted to it somehow indirectly. Twice now somebody has tried to put how-to like programming material in the article. I can understand this in a way; because, while wikipedia is a general encyclopedia, there is no broad cooperative working on a problem that looks like it might bear one, and this may be a frustration to a devotee of the problem (which I am not). As always, if implementing an idea you have which I have requested requires much time, I cannot ask you to spend the time and will merely use your suggestion when I myself have time. Thanks. I don't necesarily think the article is deficient as it stands, by any means, but if some easy-to-imagine (to you) improvement comes up, I will implement it if it is not also quickly done.Julzes (talk) 19:58, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Hello, this is also Julzes. I see you ended up having to waste a bit of time on fixes to matters there, so thanks (or I apologize, depending on perspective) and you needn't concern yourself with the preceding. This is an encyclopedia, after all. Not much reason to expand that particular article, not even with efforts toward some meaningful change in the articles it may link to. Not by an admin with no great interest, certainly. If somebody more interested or who has more time than I comes along, it will probably get done then.173.15.152.77 (talk) 02:51, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Something different: Dark Side of the Moon edit war

I read my experience in trying to rectify something in the lede to this article as edit warring. Please let me know if you do not have time to take this up or if you agree with the person I regard as at fault. There is a sentence in the original lede that I have been trying to modestly correct almost wholly by moving material from the 2nd to the 1st paragraph. Most recently, I have pointed out that by the reverter's logic on WP:OR not only must my sentence go but so also should the sentence it is meant to correct. Now, he may have a good argument on this, but he began this by reverting without reading discussion, and then argued I have to convince him and him alone because it was a feature article. Thank you for your consideration. He has reverted numerous times now, and no 3rd party is yet involved.Julzes (talk) 22:28, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

You are both edit warring. I see an admin is now involved. I will stay out. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:10, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi, this is Julzes again. I don't disagree (and have recommended that particular type of war might possibly be automated, though perhaps it is not common enough to bother). On a separate note, I have just about worn out three weeks worth of welcomes at the college library today trying to generate a curio on computers that repeatedly take power-saving breaks. I will send you the topic, in the event you are interested in turning the concept into a curio (or of trying to).173.15.152.77 (talk) 01:53, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

This is the same matter extended. If you prefer I not continue and find my way on my own, that would be fine, but this was my request:

My talk edits are being restricted and removed by another editor. If you are unable to act yourself but can advise I would appreciate it.Julzes (talk) 12:06, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

If you are referring to Talk:The Dark Side of the Moon then your removed posts were off topic for an article talk page. I suggest you stop criticising the other user unless it's relevant to improving the article, or you are filing a complaint on a relevant noticeboard for actions performed after their block expired. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:46, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
It was off-topic, but it was not wholly resolved materially. It unfortunately still stands that way, but busy people including myself move along.Julzes (talk) 13:15, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! I'm amazed no one has given you this one yet...

The E=mc² Barnstar
message Naraht (talk) 15:18, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
Thanks! PrimeHunter (talk) 15:29, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Re:Cheryl

Thanks for sorting that one out. Cheers Paul MacDermott (talk) 14:16, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Weak Goldbach conjecture

Dear Prime Hunter,

My name is Daniel and I sign here as avijet.It is about the weak Goldbach conjecture, any odd number greater than 7 is the sum of three odd primes. My question is why should 2 be eliminate from it and not considering a more extended range for this conjecture - any odd number greater or equal to 7 is the sum of three primes ? For example 7 = 2+2+3 , 11 = 2+2+7; not including 2 eliminates some of the possible combinations. Best Regards Avijet (talk) 12:13, 21 June 2012 (UTC)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Avijet (talkcontribs) 11:15, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

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Many thanks

Many thanks for the advice about edit summaries that you left on my userpage. I often fail to leave an edit summary - I know that the question of whether it should be compulsory to do so is one that has been on Misplaced Pages:Perennial_proposals. Again, thank you for your helpful advice. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 23:12, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Ebernesia

This is the US Ambassador to Ebernesia, Tyler Packerd. I am truly sorry to hear that you doubt the rule of Ebernesia. I feel as though you do not understand the conditions that have been set forward for this country. You have no right to deny Ebernesia's existence. and I am 98% sure that the President of the D.R.E. will not be pleased with your assumption after I inform him. Never again do I want to see your denial of the country we speak of.

Packerd, USA out — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.46.208.190 (talk) 18:33, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages is not for things made up one day. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:57, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

A beer for you!

Is there anything you don't know? I'm in awe. SPhilbrick(Talk) 01:45, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
Thanks! There is lots I don't know (but I can work out much of it if I want). PrimeHunter (talk) 22:54, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Am I still getting edit summaries wrong?

After your advice about edit summaries that you left on the talk page of my userpage, I wondered whether you meant that we were meant to start a new title for an edit summary by using the * key and the /key ourselves. I tried this out when I edited the page on the British situation comedy Last of the Summer Wine - let me know whether it is still not correct. Many thanks, ACEOREVIVED (talk) 19:51, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Request for assistance regarding help desk question

I look for a helping hand. Could you take a look at WP:HD#Missing Article? From Special:Contributions/Rscurlock-Jones it seems the article in question here is Clive Beer (I am not sure whether it existed in mainspace or whether it was submitted via AfC, I looked through Category:AfC submissions by date/August 2012 but couldn't find anything). I am not an admin and so unfortunately cannot see deleted contributions. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlkctb) 13:17, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for using your admin magic to bring some light into this. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlkctb) 17:34, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Appreciation for you

The Helping Hand Barnstar
Thanks for your countless efforts at the help desk. TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 16:12, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Teahouse!

Hi PrimeHunter. I'm glad to see you've been helping out at the Teahouse - thank you! A few notes about the Teahouse, we're a bit different (as you've probably noticed!) than the majority of help spaces on Misplaced Pages - we have a few methods to the madness that make us special, and has proven to work to help retain new editors. We've got a list of host tips that shares different ways that folks who answer questions should interact at the Teahouse. Things like saying "hi!" when answering questions (everyone likes to be greeted when they visit a new place!) and explaining with as little jargon and things (like what is a verifiable source? instead of just linking to the policy) like that as possible. I do encourage you to stay involved, and even become a host if you'd like! You can learn more about hosting here. Thank you again for all you do on Misplaced Pages! SarahStierch (talk) 16:04, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

Also, there's a talkback template so that you can inform guests when you have answered a question: Misplaced Pages:Teahouse/Teahouse talkback. benzband (talk) 21:37, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
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Thanks!

PrimeHunter, Thanks for your kind assistance at the Help Desk. I'm OK now. I was not reading the one heading right on my email sign-in. It said "new email address" which threw me off because the box to the right of it contained my Wiki user name--it wasn't blank. So I thought it was a box for my user name. It didn't occur to me to type my new email address over top of it. Bottom line and good news: I did finally type in my new email overtop of my user name, AND IT WORKED. Thanks again!EMP (talk) 23:03, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Good to hear it worked. The prefilled username in the email box must be a feature in your browser. Maybe it remembers you entered the username in the login screen and suggests the same content for other boxes at the same site. Or maybe you once entered the username in the email box and then the browser suggests it each time you go there. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:37, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

A Note in Appreciation!

Hi PrimeHunter ~ Sorry for the kitten, who lost her mitten, but I'm a girl, so what can you expect?  :-) Thanks for taking the time and making the effort to help me with my situation. I can now log in with Blythe Spirit and have submitted a request, for a name change from Garance Arletty to Blythe Spirit, on Wikimedia Commons, too, thanks to your handy link. My only question now is: How do I create a page, so that Blythe Spirit appears -in blue- as a hyperlink? ~ Blythe Spirit aka Barbara Buffington

Blythe Spirit (talk) 05:20, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

Hope I Got This Right

So you're a math wiz, I take it? My Algebra and Geometry teachers passed me out of pity. Ha! Anyway, thanks again for the help. I don't know if I'm doing this right, but pressed the edit button and am writing this message on the bottom of the list. Misplaced Pages is pretty convoluted for my feeble little brain, but I do enjoy a challenge, so maybe in a decade or two I'll have it all sorted out.... Bye, bye, for now and thanks again! Blythe Spirit (talk) 06:13, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Ah, and that's how it's done!

I followed your new instructions, to the letter, and voilà... Everything is now completely in sync! It makes me feel sooo in-the-know, despite being an absolute neophyte. Thanks to you, learning has been painless and a pleasure! I only wish all my other endeavors could be this easy. Ha, ha!! Blythe Spirit (talk) 19:23, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Question re Book Creator problems

Hi, I have the same problem that others had with Book Creator -- I can't create chapter headings and I can't sort the contents of my books. I saw the comment you posted on the Books FAQ linking to Bugzilla and ”Books#Structure,” but I'm not sure if that helps me much. (Bugzilla says the bug is fixed but it still exists for me, at least.) Occasional user here, so I'm sorry if it's the wrong place to ask a question. Rourke (talk) 22:54, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Postscript: Thanks, User:PrimeHunter! —from Rourke (talk) 00:25, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

Got the screenshots

The New Search Bar
Copies-2, at the talk page of the other two involved···Vanischenu/Talk」 16:23, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

Replied at both VPT and my talk page for two different discussions.···Vanischenu/Talk」 07:23, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Legend?

Us aging hipsters can't keep up with all the stuff that's the bee's knees nowadays. --Orange Mike | Talk 16:32, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

File:B&Mlogo.png

So can please un-delete "File:B&Mlogo.png"?--Dom497 (talk) 23:51, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

No, it was claimed as fair use but had too high resolution for that. The current resolution fits the infobox in Bolliger & Mabillard so there is no reason to undelete. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:04, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
So how am I supposed to know where the image came from. The image couldn't have just come from Misplaced Pages.--Dom497 (talk) 00:20, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
I tracked it back further to File:B&Mlogo.jpg, uploaded by User:Cmalpass 5 December 2008. The only deleted source information is "The logo is from the www.bolliger-mabillard.com website." PrimeHunter (talk) 00:33, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
I'm not arguing but if the logo was from the website, then were did the "stealth bomber" come from. Only the text is on the company website meaning the image couldn't have come from there.--Dom497 (talk) 00:48, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
It was uploaded in 2008. Organizations often modify logos. The article should probably show the current logo http://www.bolliger-mabillard.com/img/logo_bolliger.gif. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:11, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
I may be wrong but the last time I checked what the website looked like in 2008, the logo was the same as today. If you type in WayBack Machine on google and go to the B and M website from 2008, I believe the logo was the same (I can't check right now because I am not home and on my phone).--Dom497 (talk) 01:20, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
User: Cmalpass hasn't edited for a year and doesn't have email enabled. I have already spent a lot of time tracking and discussing this. Why is it so important? We should probably delete it anyway and upload a logo copied from the current website. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:40, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

WTA Challenger Tour

No, I wouldn't mind if you did change it to the WTA Challenger Series. Even the pictures say WTA Challenger Series. Whoops.. I was just copying what the ATP did, until maybe a website or something came out. Thankyou for noticing. Popsiclesare (talk) 02:58, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

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Article of Sindhi Nationalism

This article has been completely wrecked by a vandal with the IP Address 182.182.31.245 (From Pakistan). It seems this was done to suppress things that are critical of Pakistan. What group would be good to talk to about this, because I have reverted it back to being an article, but it is in dire need of repair now. Also, I would like that IP banned. --Lionheart Omega (talk) 23:16, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

I have reverted the other edit and posted a message to the IP. IP's are not blocked without warning for something like this. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:16, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

Caroline Wozniaki

Would you mind going back through the years prior to 2012 and summarizing the contents? We really shouldn't have a list of every single tournament, including details of match results; instead, a good, clear summary like we have for 2005 would be best. I don't know enough about tennis competition to say with certainty how to summarize, although I could try if others aren't interested. Qwyrxian (talk) 03:34, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

She turned 15 in 2005 and only played two WTA matches, both of which are mentioned. Later years should have much more content. She was World no. 1 in two of them. I will look at match details next week and prune some of them. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:17, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
Thanks. Basically, my feeling is that we should not be reporting even every single tournament result...but I suppose others may disagree. Qwyrxian (talk) 23:11, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
There have been discussions about detail level in tennis biographies at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Tennis, but no agreement. Some previous Wozniacki years have actually already been pruned. Wozniacki, although a former World no. 1, is not in the same class as Federer but I wonder whether you have seen the season articles in Category:Roger Federer. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:59, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

User:PrimeHunter3

Would you mind confirming that this is you? --Rschen7754 03:02, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

It's me. I created it with my main account but now I have also mentioned it on my main user page. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:27, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

A big thank you

I'd like to say a big thank you for your tip concerning editing on an iPhone. As you can see it worked and I have now got myself an account. Thanks mate. --Jonty Monty (talk) 16:58, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome. Glad it worked. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:28, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Barnstar of Diligence
Ta for the quick reply on the Teahouse. Regards from Buenos Aires, Argentina Cocolacoste 11:03, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
Thanks! PrimeHunter (talk) 11:05, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Barnstar of Diligence
Ta ever so much for your quick reply on the Teahouse. Regards from Buenos Aires, Argentina Cocolacoste 11:07, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

You seem to be ubiquitous!

Quite the contrary, I was trying to put the Teahouse template in my talkpage. For some reason - me being sort of a Luddite? Nah -, it didn't work. By the way, did you get the star I sent you? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cocolacoste (talkcontribs) 12:20, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Cheers!

I'm slowly getting a handle on all this. Yesterday I lost 2 hrs' work: due to an "edit conflict" (or summat like that)couldn't save all the changes I'd made to a page. Didn't even know that you could edit a talkpage! Now, thanks to you, I've realised how wikipeople interact with each other. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cocolacoste (talkcontribs) 12:51, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Hi, upload a picture

I want to upload a picture from the Official website of the Prime Minister of Canada, do you know under what license does it lie? and secondly, how do I autoconfirm my account? Thank you indeed very much. Iowafromiowa (talk) 11:59, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Replied at Misplaced Pages:Help desk#Upload a picture. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:13, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

I sent an email asking for permission. If they indeed give me permission, what shall I do? Thank you. Iowafromiowa (talk) 19:15, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

I see it was answered at Misplaced Pages:Media copyright questions#Permission for an upload. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:15, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

New messages for you at Template talk:Clickable button

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A barnstar for you!

The Technical Barnstar
For your quick fix to my rather silly mistake. Thanks! Smallman12q (talk) 01:39, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
Thanks! PrimeHunter (talk) 01:52, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

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A compliment for you!

I've decided to send you a compliment because you told me how to change my signature. That was so helpful, and I have to thank you. --Garnershiqian ("leave me a message") 15:29, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome! PrimeHunter (talk) 15:36, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Low-traffic list to know when big MediaWiki changes are coming

Hi! I noticed your remarks in VP:T and thought you might be interested in joining the low-traffic wikitech-ambassadors mailing list. This mailing list is used to disseminate information and share experiences regarding large-scale technology deployments in Wikimedia projects -- and to let the developers know if something's a concern on your wiki, and ask folks from other wikis whether it's a concern there too. Anyone can sign up to be a "wikitech ambassador" in order to help with this process. (More info.).

Thanks in any case. Sumana Harihareswara, Wikimedia Foundation Engineering Community Manager (talk) 14:55, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
I don't know how else to thank you for helping me with my template problems. I thought this might be nice to have, as a token of appreciation and your great assistance. Once again, thank you. Regards, RomeEonBmbo 02:16, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
Thanks! We are all volunteers. This is a great way to show appreciation. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:20, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

Password reset

I am trying to understand Special:PasswordReset. If I enter the username, then a message is sent to the e-mail associated with that username. If the E-mail address: address is filled in, then a message is sent to the e-mail address only if the e-mail address is associated with a username; otherwise no message is sent. This allows a user who forgot their username to recover. Is this correct? ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  13:31, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Yes, that is my experience from testing (I don't have knowledge about the actual code). If both fields are filled then the e-mail address is ignored. If only the e-mail address is filled then the sent e-mail lists all accounts with that address, and gives a separate password for each. If no user has that e-mail address then no mail is sent, but MediaWiki falsely gives the same message: "A reminder e-mail has been sent." I guess the idea is that third parties should not be able to tell whether an e-mail address exists in the database. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:50, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
Proposed change to MediaWiki:Passwordreset-text:

Complete this form to receive an e-mail reminder of your account details.

You must have registered the e-mail address when you created your account. If you forgot your username or e-mail address, or no longer have access to the registered e-mail address, then this password reset form will not help you. Please see Help:Logging in.

Do not fill both fields:

  • If you know your username, then fill out the username input box; the message will be sent to the e-mail address registered to it.
  • If you forgot your username, then fill out the e-mail address input box; if there is a username associated with the e-mail address, then the message will be sent to the e-mail address.
---— Gadget850 (Ed)  14:54, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
I don't think {{Quotation}} is suitable. The email address can be set and changed at any time, not just at account creation. The form can sometimes help even if you forgot your username or email address (you can check all your email addresses, and some people can se all email to their domain without specifying the part before @). I had overlooked MediaWiki:Passwordreset-pretext, maybe because it's displayed around where the tagline usually is: http://en.wikipedia.org/Special:PasswordReset?uselang=qqx. If we make a detailed message then I think it should be MediaWiki:Passwordreset-pretext which comes before the form box and not MediaWiki:Passwordreset-text which is inside the box. If the latter is kept then how about:
Use the below form to receive an e-mail with a temporary password for your account.

You must have registered an e-mail address for the account when it was created, or at Special:Preferences when you were logged in. If you can no longer receive e-mail at the registered e-mail address then this form will not help you. Please see Help:Logging in.

Do not fill both fields:

  • If you know your username, then fill out the username box; the message will be sent to the e-mail address registered to it.
  • If you forgot your username, then fill out the e-mail address box; if there is a username associated with the e-mail address, then the message will be sent to the e-mail address.
"(passwordreset-pretext: 2)" at http://en.wikipedia.org/Special:PasswordReset?uselang=qqx and the default {{PLURAL:$1||Enter one of the pieces of data below}} at MediaWiki:Passwordreset-pretext indicates to me that MediaWiki:Passwordreset-pretext might have been called with parameter "1" to indicate there is only one field in the form. If it can change back to 1 (presumably the username) then we should maybe use PLURAL to choose between two messages at MediaWiki:Passwordreset-pretext. MediaWiki:Passwordreset-text is apaprently not called with a parameter indicating the number of fields. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:57, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
I used {{quotation}} only to set off the proposed text. Your tweaks look good. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  03:32, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
I started a proposal without being aware of this (Gadget850 pointed me here). Let's centralize discussion there if you don't mind. Superm401 - Talk 09:43, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Nomination for merging of Template:Select skin on page

Template:Select skin on page has been nominated for merging with Template:Select skin. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. Ahora (talk) 11:03, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

Another question related to transclusion

PrimeHunter, thanks again for your help yesterday. I have another question, if you don't mind. I was thinking about creating two templates to mark the beginning and the end of the section to be transcluded that would correspondingly enclose "<onlyinclude>{{#ifeq:{{{transcludesection|sectionname}}}|sectionname|" and "}}</onlyinclude>". This way instead of writing all this someone could just put something similar to {{Section begin|sectionname}} and {{Section end}} around the section he or she wants to mark for transclusion. However, I realize that I cannot put such code within a template directly. Is there any way around this? KeepOptions 12:29, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

I don't see how to do it without subst: which would put the full code in the saved page but not require that the user writes it. See Template:Onlyinclude. You could split it into two templates for begin and end. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:55, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
I see, thank you. I'll simply transfer this template to uk-wiki to be used with subst. On a related note, is there any kind of systematic manual on templates that I could read? (And bother others less :) ). KeepOptions 13:17, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
You could start at Help:Template but it may not be so systematic. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:27, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

For all your work at the Help Desk and other similar places. You are constantly answering my and others' questions and expanding my answers when I am unaware about something. Thank you!

The Anonymouse (talk • contribs) 16:50, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! PrimeHunter (talk) 16:52, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:File Upload Wizard cat edit

Sorry about that. I thought I was adding a category to the file I was trying to upload.--agr (talk) 23:24, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

That's OK. I guessed it was probably an error and didn't bother to ask you. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:28, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

A brownie for you!

Thank you so so much for fixing the error, I was so worried! Thank you loads. Tamravidhir (২০১২) 05:16, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
Thanks! PrimeHunter (talk) 06:08, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Gadget-mySandbox

Your edit to MediaWiki:Gadget-mySandbox caused the CSS of the entire site to explode, so I have reverted it. (Apologies for using rollback, but I could barely see the page.) Reaper Eternal (talk) 19:13, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the rollback. I have no idea how my edit could cause this. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:22, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
It shouldn't be necessary to revert. The pages beginning MediaWiki:Gadget- which have neither .css nor .js extension are displayed at Preferences → Gadgets. They are processed as regular Wikitext, so removing one unlinked word and altering the capitalisation of another unlinked word should alter just one thing - the summary shown at Preferences → Gadgets. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:02, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

Teahouse

My apologies for asking a non-basic question at the Teahouse (w:Teahouse/Questions#Dead_link_to_media_on_Commons). I felt that I was becoming annoying on the regular Help desk - but it seems you patrol both pages, so you must be equally annoyed wherever I ask. ;) ~E, aka: ~Eric F, aka: ~Eric the Annoying: 74.60.29.141 (talk) 21:46, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

No problem. w: is the interwiki prefix for Misplaced Pages (the whole wiki). The namespace alias for the Misplaced Pages namespace is WP so the correct link is wp:Teahouse/Questions#Dead_link_to_media_on_Commons. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:37, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
Okay, thanks again - sometimes I wonder: am I the only one who is this easily confused? ~E:74.60.29.141 (talk) 00:39, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Splitting a page LeMond

Just wanted to say thanks so much for your help and clean up of mistakes. I very much appreciate it! Gunbirddriver (talk) 03:34, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, you're welcome. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:45, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Barnstar

The Seasonal Barnstar
In recognition of your accurate answers at the help desks throughout the year, I award you this Seasonal Barnstar. -- John of Reading (talk) 18:01, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
Thanks! PrimeHunter (talk) 18:38, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Your answer to a question at teahouse

Hi, Prime. I'm Gtwfan52, and I have a concern about the way you replied to the fella that asked about common knowledge at Teahouse. We try to be completely positive when we respond to the new users that have questions at Teahouse and your reply was somewhat chastising. I'm sorry you feel that his asking the same question in multiple forums is somehow a problem, but I can certainly see the logic in it. Very few things about Misplaced Pages have a cut and dried "Answer", so by asking in multiple places, he got multiple viewpoints and from that can synthesize a reasonable way to approach his problem that he was asking about. At Teahouse, we assume the editor asking the question is new, and we try to encourage with our answers. He is, after all, a volunteer just like me and you and does not have to be here. We assume that we need him and all new editors. Just remember, his rate of pay is exactly the same as yours. So, although I thank you for your interest, I am asking you to be positive if you are going to answer questions at Teahouse and make sure that you greet the editor when you do. Thanks, and Happy Editing! Gtwfan52 (talk) 21:12, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

By asking the same question in four different places without saying so at any of them, he makes many people spend their time on the same thing. It seems fairly common sense and courtesy to me not to do that, except maybe if you have waited a reasonable time without getting answers. I first saw the question at Misplaced Pages:Help desk#"Common Knowledge" Citations which had the most detailed answers. I linked it from the three other places for the benefit of editors potentially wasting time on an already answered question. I wasn't really thinking in terms of special Teahouse protocols for answering questions there. Maybe I should stick to other help boards. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:10, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

need help resolving dispute on Yoani Sánchez article

hi, some editors won't let me mention clear statements of fact in said article nor will they let me include statements by three highly authoritative sources. i wonder if you could assist or direct me to someone who could. thanks--Huysmanii (talk) 21:04, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

See Misplaced Pages:Dispute resolution for general advice. I'm not getting involved. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:25, 8 January 2013 (UTC)