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Thanks for the links, very useful. Thanks again.

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No problem. happy editing! --He:ah? 07:29, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

I've been blocked for some reason...haven't done anything but posted a question in the Reference Desk. C-c-c-c 03:02, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

What is your IP address, you don't seem to be blocked -- Tawker 03:12, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Can you help me? I think I signed out after but was still on Misplaced Pages, after trying to answer a question on the discussion page, I found out I was blocked.C-c-c-c 03:15, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Please copy the whole block message you got when trying to edit. It may be that you have a dynamic IP (like AOL) that was blocked or autoblocked after someone else used it for vandalism. I'll need that information to unblock you. Dmcdevit·t 03:30, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi, I noticed your helpme thing, and I checked the block log for your IP. It should unblock within the next 10 minutes or so, but you do have a shared IP address, so you may be blocked for things you really didn't do. Usually blocks for shared IP addresses are short, so if you ever do get blocked, you won't have to wait too long.

Also, please make sure you include edit summaries when editing. It makes keeping track of things easier! You won't need the helpme box anymore, since the block will soon pass. Happy editing! Jfingers88 03:32, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, just a recent Wikipedian as of....yesterday. But thanks! C-c-c-c 03:39, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

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Hi C-c-c-c. Could you please sign your messages with four tildes instead of just three? That way we'll know who you are, not just when you wrote. Thanks, Andrewjuren(talk) 03:49, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

hey

Gde živiš u Kanadi? Ja sam iz Vankuvera. --serbiana - talk 23:10, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Ja živim u Vinipegu, ali hvala bogu da je sada lijepo i vruće vreme. Normalno je jako zima kod nas. Ja bi teho da se sada zahvalim zato zašto sam ja od vas koristio code na user page-u za Kosovo i ja sam metno na moju stranic ako je to uredu svama. Izvinjavam se ako dosto reći su ovde pogreškno napisani. Ja znam da sam napisao da dobro srpski pricam ali imam samo 16 godina i nikad nisam u školu kod nas zbog rata išo, ali ucim se. Ja nemam problema sa govorom srpksom jezikom, ili vrlo malo. Ali sam ovde polago ispit u srpksom jeziku u high school i prošosam! Puno hvala iz Vinipega. Neznam ako ovo kod vašog user page-a da metnem ili kod mene onak sam u oba metno. C-c-c-c 23:36, 2 May 2006 (UTC C-c-c-c 23:36, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

wow, I mean wow, 15 years of age and so full of politics on Balkans on your head. And you say you never lived in Serbia. I mean, wow! It is amazing. Ilir pz 23:54, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

E, ćao Ilir, vidim da si i se i ti upoznao sa ovim korisnikom. Inače, još pokušavam da ti nabavim onaj film o kojem sam ti pričao.

C-c-c-c, slobodno koristi šta god ti treba za user-page, ne ljutim se :-)

Vinipeg? But, thats in the middle of nowhere :-) Šalim se. Dobro pričaš srpski, bolje nego Ilir, a on živi u Srbiji. Ja sam u Kanadu došao pre 2 godine, tako da sam još dosta vezan za moju otadžbinu, a vidim da si i ti vezan, pa mi to daje nadu da neću zaboraviti na svoje poreklo, kako vreme bude prolazilo. Mogao bi malo da uređuješ i za srpsku Vikipediju, sada je i na ćirilici, i na latinici. Ja sam tamo administrator, mogu da ti pomognem oko uređivanja, doduše, mislim da bi se lepo snašao. --serbiana - talk 00:12, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm, Boris, never lived in Serbia. thanks for the comment. Ilir pz 12:00, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Serbiana, hvala puno. Nadam se da se vama Vankuver sviđa i ako ima puno kiše. Ja ću da malo čitam u srpskoj Vikipediju da se propravim. Ne čitam slabo ćirilicu ali ponekad kad pišem trebam se puno misliti. Ja več čitam neke naš vijesti na internetu kada imam vreme.

Now to Ilir...

Two years in Bosnia, six in Germany, eight in Canada. So, no, I'm not a home-grown ultra-nationalist. Sure the wars have affected me, you, and almost everyone in the Balkans. I didn't have a father for a good portion of my life because of the war, I don't know any of my family from back there. I'm ashamed that I can't properly speak and write in my first tongue, but English being my second last language( third in total, if Serbo-Croatian/Bosnian is one), somehow falls easy for me. So I have an eagerness to learn about my ancestry and country because I had the opportunity snatched from me to learn it there first hand. Oh yes I've very interested in history, geography and politics. CNN is always on, even though I don't tend to believe everything, and so is the History Channel. I'm full of random history facts, and I deeply enjoy it. I've read books on Nostradamus, to Newton, to Galileo, Magellan, Copernicus, whoever was important, and not just a Serb.

But I however, do challenge things people say ( such as, that Marconi invented the radio), even if I'll lose marks or fail because it's right. I can't wait for my AP History Exam next May (2007). I hope to score well indeed. Sure as a 16 year old I can't change the world, or write that first year university course, but next year I will, and I hope to do very well writing a college exam at 17.

As Serbiana might know, school's here are pathetic. Get into AP, and it starts taking on a European level of education. (The grade 12 in AP is your first year university course everywhere else.) Then if I do well, I can skip right onto second year university, and save myself some needed money. And then when I get my 5 on the exam I'll send you the transcript, hey ? I wonder what to write when they ask about the Balkans....mhm? C-c-c-c 00:51, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

C-c-c-c, Vankuver je divan grad. Jeste da mnogo pada kiša, ali kad prestane, negde oko Maja, do Oktobra je raj na zemlji. Inače, zovem se Boris, možeš tako da me zoveš, Serbiana mi je nickname koji sam stavio da malo nerviram neke korisnike iz Hrvatske (već su nekoliko njih rekli da promenim nadimak). Uostalom, to je oduvek i bila taktika Hrvatske - sve što je srpsko je velikosrpsko, ako u Hrvatskoj kažeš da si Srbin, onda si i nacionalista, veruj mi, živeo sam dve godine u Rijeci, HR. Pročitaj moj članak o Velikoj Hrvatskoj, i razumećeš o čemu pričam.

Nemoj da mi persiraš, pređimo na "ti" (na Wikipediji vlada Komunizam, šalim se). Što se tiče Ilira, nije on loš, živeo je u SAD neko vreme, oči su mu otvorene (za razliku od mnogih na Balkanu). U početku smo se žestoko svađali, dok ja nisam prihvatio da je Kosovo izgubljeno i da nema svrhe svađati se oko nečega što za mene lično nije važno. On, kao i ja, mrzi nacionaliste, ali je on, kao i ja, pomalo i sam nacionalista. Neće on to nikad priznati, takva je priroda svih ljudi na Balkanu, svi smo mi pomalo nacionalisti i poznati smo po tome.

Am I being analyzed here? I feel important.:))) I lived(studied) in Norway for 4 years, and that many in Bulgaria. Also lived in Paris for a short time. As we hail from the balkans, we all have a little nationalism by default. I think we all agree in this. But mine, no matter how small it is, is never directed toward harming anyone. THAT is very important. Ilir pz 12:05, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Drago mi je da imaš ambicija u oblasti istorije. Ja sam uvek bio pristalica ideologije "ko kontroliše istoriju, kontroliše i budućnost". Pročitaj "1984" od George Orwella. Ovde je škola stvarno katastrofa, univerziteti nisu ništa bolji, a o društvu da ne govorim. Dao bih sve kanadske prijatelje za jednog iz Srbije. Srećom, imam devojku koja je iz Beograda, pa se osećam malo više kao da sam u Srbiji. U svakom slučaju, ne planiram ovde da ostanem dugo, jer, a mislim da će se Ilir složiti samnom, there's no place like home.

Imaš li MSN? Moj e-mail je bormalagurski AT hotmail.com. Add me :-)

--serbiana - talk 23:19, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Zdravo Boris. Tvoja priča od hrvata je smešna jeli sam i ja danas tako pronašo. Gledo sam danas nešto na sportskom kanalu od nogometa. Bila imisija od privenstva u junu u Nemačkoj i svaki put pričaju od nekoliko država u "in depth analysis". Danas su od Hrvatske pričalji i smio sam se. Jedan igrač kaze, "We are Croatian, so we will never be satisfied". Nije lago, toje prava istina. Nisam pročito 1984, ali smo mi u školi pročitari Brave New World. Oni su oba "utopian societies". Iduće godine trebamo čitati 1984 ali ču sigurno prija u moje vreme čitati. Imam MSN, metniču te sada. Vidimo se. C-c-c-c 05:08, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

About statistics and your remarks in Kosovo talk page:The chart was added by someone else, I just put it back when someone removed it without explanation. It seems to have quite a credible source (World Bank, if it is enough for you). I am not sure you are more an expert than World Bank statisticians, but nevertheless. Not sure about the stats before WW2. I am more curious to know where you got that info, that Tito forbade Serbs to do anything in Kosovo (until death of Rankovic, and later 1974, when Albanians got more rights).Ilir pz 12:02, 5 May 2006 (UTC) Ilir pz 12:02, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

I meant forbade them to return, didn't make that clear enough, sorry. The Serbs that fled during World War II from Kosovo were not allowed to go back home by Tito. I am not saying the source isn't credible, and really, isn't it saying what all Serbs have been saying? There used to be large Serb minority/majority (however you want to look at it) at one point, and that slowly throughout history, Serbs have fled or been killed in large masses. However, what I was saying was, that during in 1991, and 2000, there couldn't possibly be a similar Serb population. These were war years, were large numbers of Serbs were killed or forced to flee. Between 2000 and 2005 it dropped 3 full percent points, during a time declared as being "peace time". All I'm wondering about is how accurate this estimation could be. C-c-c-c 02:19, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Hipi, again

Oh, oh, ho. Du wars fast durch die ganze welt und bist du immer noch der selbe geblieben. Wie ih es sagte der CCCC kalender ist stehen geblieben. hahaha . Tung from Hipi (I am not Hipi). Man, verschviende nich deine zeit hier irgend welche geschite zu schreiben. Kein schwein list das hier auser serben, albana und die aus der Balkan. Die ganze welt hat die schnauze voll von Balkan und deren mytologie (die moderne mytoligie auch). Versuche es was zu machen da mit wir mehre administratoren in en:Wiki zu bekommen. Die Welt is gross es gibt genugt fur alle uns. Jetz is nich die zeit in Balkan krieg zu fuhren, last uns in USA, Kanada stadte grunden, und morgen werden unsere kinder streiten wer war der erste der diese spiel angefangen hat. Aber weren desen last die Kosovaren in ruhe, die mussen deren gebite von araban zuruck eroberen Egypten und die umgebung. Der Milosevic war eine vagbond niX anderes. Er hat alle bau vertrager der Kosovaren mit Gadafi und Egypta gekondigt. Davon hat Kosovo viele miliarden dollar verloren. Fals du in westen gelebt hast den weist du warum es geht. Jetz diese auftrage furen General Motors, Siemens ect. Der Milosevic war so dumm das e geht nich mehr. Er hat zusammen mit diese kakalken gearbeite und dachte das er etwas gewinnen kann. Und was hat er gewonnen mein Schw... soger das auch nicht. Stech auf, weil dein schlaf is zu tief oder deine ogen sid blid oder deine kalender ist stehend geblieben.

Die zeit werend die anderen geschichte schrieben und du die geschichte in Buchen geschrieben has, es ist vorbei. Die zeit werend die andren von der krieg mude geworden waren und du uber die geherrscht has is vorbei. Jetz must du dein brot selber verdienen und las das folk in Herzogovina in frieden. Die mussen erstmal zu sie kommen, nutzes nich die situacion. Gehe arbeiten! und hore auf mit palavra (Hipis). Wiki-wiki aus Deutschland

Hipi, das bist du hier, jeder Idiot kann das sehen. Wahrscheinlich glaubst du dass du intelligenter bist als wir anderen, sonst würdest du nicht Blödsinn über mich sagen. Wie kannst du sagen dass ich mich nicht verändert habe, Gott sei Dank kenne ich dich nicht persönlich. Ich bin noch jung und ändere mich jeden Tag, ich bin kein Opa der im Schaukelstuhl sitzt und der ruhig ein Buch liest. Als ich jünger war wusste ich nicht den Unterschied zwischen Serben, Jugoslawen, oder Kroaten. Ich wusste dass ich als Jugoslawien kam und nichts anderes. Meine Elterne waren keine Nationalisten, sondern fast Kommunisten, aber noch sehr liebe Eltern. Als ich zu Deutschland geflohen bin, war ich sehr jung.

Ich wusste kaum etwas über meine Kultur und habe die deutsche Nationalmannschaft im Fussball angespordet. Ich habe die Nationalhyme gesungen mit meiner rechten Hand auf meiner Brust. Jetzt, hasse ich Deutschland, und warum denn fragst du? Wegen der Geschichte, weil sie Leute wie Tiere behandelt hatten, noch schlimmer als Tiere. So behandelten sie Serben und Juden und jeden denn sie nicht gemögt haben. Also, kannst du nicht sagen dass ich mich nicht geändert habe. Gib mir keine Scheisse mit idiotischen Vorschlägen dass ich Kosovo in ruhe lassen soll. Oh, jetzt sollen wir Kosovo in ruhen lassen und keinen Krieg weiter kämpfen weil ihr ja fast Selbstständigkeit habt. Aber früher als die Serben in der Regierung waren, hattet ihr keine Problem mit der UCK. Ob die UCK Leute tötet ist egal für euch, ihr habt nur ein Ziel für Kosovo, eine "Lösung" für die ganze Minderheit Kosovos zufinden. Warum soll ich dass Volk in Herzegovina in ruhe lassen? Was für ein Recht has du, weiter die Scheisse schreiben? Bist du aus Bosnien? Bin ich aus Bosnien? Du has keine Ahnung gerade jetzt, und wenn du nicht sicher bist solltest du die Schnauze ein bisschen kleben. Serben kommen aus Bosnien, und ihr nicht, darum lebt ihr alle in Albanien und Kosovo, aber dass ihr aus Kosovo kommt bin ich auch zweifelhaft.

Ich bin aber froh dass du dich entschieden hast in deutsch zu schreiben, denn dein englisch ist leider sehr schwach, am meisten mit dem Buchstabieren, aber grammatischer Weise ist es nicht so schlecht. Du musst nur mit dem Buchstabieren weiter arbeiten und dann wird keiner jammern das er oder sie dich nicht verstehen können. C-c-c-c 05:39, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Hipi is jetzt mitologie. Er hat seine job gemacht. Er hat die montenegriner und die kosovaren artiklen von belgrada propaganda befreit. Jetz is die aufgabe der wikipedianten die neutralitet zu bewahren. Was bedeutet eigentlich serben, serbia, serbische stadt? Is das eine religion, nacion, region oder was? Woher nimms du das rechte unter diese namme "serben, Serbien" hier auf zu treten. Wenn du diese namme benutzt den muss du auch in richtigen platz benuzen. Deine problem ist einfach mangel an zeit entwicklungen der geschichte. Du benutz alle argumentacionen von der geschichte die unter name "Servia" laufen zu beweisen das ist serbische nation bedeutet. Denks du das irgend einer wird es schluken deine produkt. Einfach gesagt schlecte auftrit in die Welt Buhne. Hipi hat recht gehabt. "Die belgrader propaganda benutz den term Servia um die andere nationen (volker) zu unterwerfen" dafur benutz die selber art und weise wie nach den Osmanen kriege die moto CCCC (nicht vergesen das war mal bizantische zeichen und hate mit heutigen bedeutung niX zu tun.).

--Ejte 05:07, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Would anyone agree with me that this sounds very very much like Hipi again? Note that this user name was only created on the 27th of April. Both have minimal English and German skills. Suspicious. Sockpuppet, anyone? C-c-c-c 05:52, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Continued from Serbiana's talk page

Oh very funny. I know Montenegro will get it's independence and Montenegro will have enough votes to become independent, obviously. Why? because have you seen the campaigns for Montenegrin independence, like some in the USA and in Montenegro. Many Montenegrins want their independence, you can ask them yourself in Montenegro. But truly it is funny if they call the UN and tell them that the vote was rigged, which I would do, so that way, Montenegro can get its independence, no matter what. Anyways, no independence referendum is allowed to be rigged. If the Montenegrin referendum is rigged, I'd be p***ed off big time. So make sure no one RIGS THE REFERENDUM !!!!!! CrnaGora (Talk/Contribs/E-mail/Edit Count) 20:57, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

You seem neutral on Montenegro's independence, but on Boris Malagurski's talk page, you make it seem like you oppose it. What is your problem, really? You are really trying to make me be very mad at you, as well as other Montenegrins (assuming), which I am right now after reading what you put down. CrnaGora (Talk/Contribs/E-mail/Edit Count) 03:06, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Here, I'll tell you my honest opinion. I'm doing it here since I am STILL blocked, and if some could PLEASE unblock me I'd greatly appreciate it. I don't want Montenegro to split, or Kosovo, or even Republika Srpska. Why ? Because I think splitting up the ex Yugoslavia into a dozen countries will do no good. Sure you'll have your own country, but you'll still have to be neighbours with them anyway. But I see the Montenegro independence is most likely inevitable, and so with Kosovo, so I don't know, I'm not really pro or against...I just want it all to be over with for once. C-c-c-c 03:33, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

I doubt its ever going to be over. Probably ex-Yugoslavia will keep spliting or probably only Montenegro and Kosovo will be independent, and that will be it. CrnaGora (Talk/Contribs/E-mail/Edit Count) 21:32, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Some help

{{unblock|Hi, I've been blocked by user . My IP adress is 24.66.94.140 because I share IP's with some vandal (this is like the 10th since I've been using Misplaced Pages, not just with a user name). If an administrator can help, Thanks. }}

Hi. I saw your help request. If you want to ask for unblocking, use the {{unblock}} template. I've changed your help message to an unblock message for you. Mangojuice 00:23, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. C-c-c-c 01:26, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Thank you to whoever unblocked me! Or it just may have expired...C-c-c-c 18:25, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Physics

No problem, I'm just glad to know that I can still figure these things out if I put my mind to it. Melchoir's solution isn't really that complex, just he used one formula derived from a few more basic ones, which lets you do the calculation in one step. I've never been good at memorizing formulas, so I've always relied on a great deal of common sense and reasoning to get to my final answer. It takes a lot more time (especially on an exam) but if it helps you understand clearer than go for it!  freshgavinΓΛĿЌ  23:54, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

El condor pasa

Please cool down a bit. You are not going to get her to change of mind. No point on getting personal. In any case, as far as I see it, the page shall be certainly kept. Regards, --Asterion 19:51, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. BTW, why is the song called "el condor pada" instead "el condor pasa"?--Asterion 19:57, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Strange... Pada means nothing in (Peninsular) Spanish, maybe it is different in Andean Spanish, but I doubt it as there seems to be a musical piece named "El Cóndor Pasa" too which is like a second national anthem for Peru, plus the Simon and Garfunkel version . Regards, --Asterion 20:20, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

You could actually translate it as "The condor passes through", "the condor comes " or more accurately I would say as "the condor flies over". It is very difficult to translate it word by word: in the same way, in Spanish you may "el autobus no pasa", meaning not that the "bus does not pass through" but that you has been waiting for it for a while...

By the way, I just found a mention of a grafitti in La Paz, Bolivia, saying "El Condor Pasa, La Dictadura Queda": The Condor comes and goes, Dictatorship remains. Well, I think you get the idea :o) --Asterion 20:31, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

"Estoy embarazada" (--> I'm pregnant) while trying to say I'm embarrassed (Estoy avergonzada). Yes, quite funny! Now that you told me about Padati, it sounds as if they deliberately chose that title indeed! --Asterion 21:06, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Great. I never go to bed without being taught something new :o) --Asterion 21:11, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Not that late, just 10.15 but it has been a long day :o( --Asterion 21:18, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Factual Evidence deleted by Ilir

Oh Ilir, don't give me that crap. Left because of economic migration? Please be kidding. Have you considered a job in the propaganda industry? I think we both know it's ethnic cleansing. The following text is not from an online source, but rather from Encarta Student Encyclopedia 2006, and the same information can be found on the Encarta website, but since anybody can edit that too, I've decided to stick with the "real copyrighted" version, If you don't mind. Here we go:

As NATO-led troops began occupying Kosovo, the UN Security Council set up a temporary administration for the province, which was legally recognized as still being a part of the FRY. (In February 2003 the FRY changed its name to Serbia and Montenegro.) Thousands of Serbs and other non-Albanians fled' the province as revenge attacks by Albanians on Serbs and Roma mounted.

Microsoft ® Encarta ® 2006. © 1993-2005 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

In 1948 there were 498,242 Albanians in Kosovo and Metohija, forming 68.46% of the population, 171,911 Serbs forming 23.6% and 28,050 Montenegrins or 3.9%.

According to the 1971 census for Kosovo and Metohija, there were:

• 916,168 Albanians (73.7%)
• 228,264 Serbs (18.4%)
• 31,555 Montenegrins (2.5%)
• 26,000 Muslims (2.1%)
• 14,593 Romas (1.2%)
• 12,244 Turks (1%)
• 8,000 Croats (0.7%)
• 920 Yugoslavs (0.1%)

Isn't it amazing how the Albanian population doubles in a mere two and a half decades? (23 years to be exact, and it more than doubled). This information is from HolyRomanEmperor, posted on the Kosovo talk page, so I hope it meets your "standards". Here are some possible reasons why the Albanian population has dramatically increased:

• 1) They could have a genetic birth defect, to reproduce like a virus.
• 2) They could be extraordinaryly horny people, and lack the appropriate contraceptives and consider abortion murder. (But killing a Serb will get you a free cow and severing a head in one go gets you his wife)
• 3) There may have been a large "immigrant" Albanian population enter Kosovo from Albania. Apparently, as bad as things are in Kosovo, it is no where near as bad as the situation in Albania. Economic migration anyone?

There may also be another reason, related to the first one. Albanians could largely be polygamists. Ilir, you would know, how relevant is polygamy in your society? Is it common? Is Warren Jeffs hiding out in Priština? You could get a big reward you know! But I know, if you want to keep him, we understand, he can half that "doubling" period for you guys in no time.

Anyways, you asked me about the exodus of the Serbs. Why, can't you see it out the window? Nevertheless Ilir, check out this, it's quite informative, and it was published in the New York Times, way before the war, so I hope that it may even meet your standards for once. Here's an excerpt:

"Privately, some officials acknowledge that the rise of Albanian nationalism in a society that is based on the principle of the equality of nationalities is the result of past errors - at first neglect and discrimination, and more recently failure to act against divisive forces or even recognize them.

""The nationalists have a two-point platform," according to Becir Hoti, an executive secretary of the Communist Party of Kosovo, "first to establish what they call an ethnically clean Albanian republic and then the merger with Albania to form a greater Albania. "

Mr. Hoti, an Albanian, expressed concern over political pressures that were forcing Serbs to leave Kosovo. "What is important now," he said, "is to establish a climate of security and create confidence."

The migration of Serbs is no ordinary problem becuase Kosovo is the heartland of Serbian history, culture and religion. Serbs have been in this region since the seventh century, long before they founded their own independent dynasty here in 1168. "

I hope you could believe this to be factual, since the rest of the article seems to be. If you read on farther you should read this:

"The 1981 census showed Kosovo with a population of 1,584,558, of whom 77.5 percent were ethnic Albanians, 13.2 percent Serbs and 1.7 percent Montenegrins.

The population in 1971 of 1,243,693 was 73.8 percent Albanian, 18.4 percent Serbian and 2.5 percent Montenegrin."

The exact same information that HolyRomanEmperor has posted, and that I am using above, so yes even you Ilir will have to agree that this article has at least some truth to it.

This article might interest you as well, as it talks about Albanian drug smuggling, apparently it was a problem as early on as 1985. This one is from the Wall Street Journal, so you know, it should be "okay". I guess drugs must still be a problem, so you know, if you do get that new democratic government one day, you should probably have some money handy for rehab centres if you haven't got any yet.

P.S. What's Serbia like? You seem to be living there.:) Regards, --C-c-c-c 18:17, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

P.S What's Iliriens like? You seem to be living there.:) Regards

Actually Canada's part of the British Commonwealth.:) Regards, C-c-c-c 22:15, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

OK, thats enough you guys, stop fighting, this is going no where. If Ilir and C-c-c-c are not getting along, you just shouldn't talk to each other. --serbiana - talk 05:56, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Smile!

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userboxes

Hi c-c-c-c, I think you are going a bit too far with some of your userboxes (i.e. Ilir's) and it may get you banned because WP:NPA.Don't do anything silly! PS: Also, please try not to be rude to Ilir in general, whatever your disagreements are. Thanks and regards, --Asterion 18:53, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Alright...but I still think the user box is necessary:P. Thanks for the warning though. C-c-c-c

I restored Hipi's edit. It is really up to an admin to decide. There is no point in wasting energy on the issue and I do not want an edit war about it. I suppose I am partially responsible as I did not try hard enough to explain the problem to him. As far as I know, he is leaving wikipedia in any case. Regards, Asterion 20:54, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

He's leaving? C-c-c-c 20:55, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

According to the admins, he is not (they did a checkuser), but I could be wrong. --Asterion 21:13, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

C-c-c-c, ma baš si lijepo napisao tamo o Iliru. Stvarno govori puno o tebi. Java programer, a i to inermediate. Šta, to ti je maksimalni intelektualni domet? Jebote, to klinci u osnovnoj uče. Ajde sad ovo fino prevedi na engleski da možeš glumit žrtvu. Jakiša Tomić 21:54, 14 May 2006 (UTC)