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February 2013

Welcome to Misplaced Pages. We welcome and appreciate your contributions, including your edits to Heterophobia, but we cannot accept original research. Original research also encompasses combining published sources in a way to imply something that none of them explicitly say. Please be prepared to cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. Thank you. Dawn Bard (talk) 00:17, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Please do not add commentary or your own personal analysis to Misplaced Pages articles, as you did to Heterophobia. Doing so violates Misplaced Pages's neutral point of view policy and breaches the formal tone expected in an encyclopedia. Thank you. Josh3580_talk/hist 00:28, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Thank you so much for helping to keep Misplaced Pages growing! About your edits to the Heterophobia page... they seemed like WP:NPOV violations to me, as there is a definite political slant to the content you added. It was mostly argumentative and not very informative. Also, I don't understand why any additional information couldn't be added to the existing subsection of the Homophobia article, instead of recreating this previously discussed and deleted article, without any prior discussion with the community.Josh3580_talk/hist 00:38, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

I have once again reverted your edits. You are listing sources, but while they all describe events, they don't arrive at the conclusions outlined in your article body. Drawing your own conclusions from verifiable sources is still considered Original Research, which is not appropriate for an encyclopedia.Josh3580_talk/hist 00:46, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

do not revert, there is a discussion taking place at Misplaced Pages:No original research/Noticeboard3abos (talk) 00:49, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to violate Misplaced Pages's neutral point of view policy by adding commentary and your personal analysis into articles, as you did to Heterophobia with this edit, you may be blocked from editing. Eyesnore (pending changes) 00:32, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Notice of No Original Research Noticeboard discussion

Hello, 3abos. This message is being sent to inform you that a discussion is taking place at Misplaced Pages:No original research/Noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Dawn Bard (talk) 00:40, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

This is your last warning. You will be blocked from editing the next time you violate Misplaced Pages's neutral point of view policy, as you did with this edit to Heterophobia. Josh3580_talk/hist 00:58, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Your recent editing history at Heterophobia shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. See BRD for how this is done. You can post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. Dawn Bard (talk) 00:59, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

reverting Heterophobia to Homophobia is a violation of neutrality. Please proceed to the article's talk page to discuss 3abos (talk) 01:03, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Josh3580_talk/hist 01:39, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Heterophobia#Treatment

I had to revert because of a copyright violation (a simple technicality), but that is a great example of a good WP:NPOV source! Try to paraphrase the information without adding opinion, and you've got it! Thank you so much for working with us on this... It's a touchy subject, and we have to be careful.Josh3580_talk/hist 06:22, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

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Nomination of Heterophobia for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Heterophobia is suitable for inclusion in Misplaced Pages according to Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Heterophobia (4th nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. — PinkAmpers& 13:09, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

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Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Misplaced Pages's policy on edit warring. Thank you. Dawn Bard (talk) 13:15, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

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Commenting on closed AfDs

Hi, 3abos. Per WP:AFD policy, you may not comment on an AfD once the discussion has concluded. If you think that there were procedural errors in the discussion, and think the conclusion should be reversed, you're welcome to file at Deletion review, but I'll warn you right now that such a request would be very unlikely to be successful. Additionally, your comments concern be somewhat, as they border on soapboxing/POV-pushing. Repeated attempts to promote certain biases in Misplaced Pages often lead to users being blocked for tendentious editing and not being here to build an encyclopedia. — PinkAmpers& 23:29, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

I do not appreciate your bias on here. please stop harassing me, i do not appreciate your heterophobic nature. 3abos (talk) 23:38, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

I assure you I'm not scared of straight people. Some of my best friends are straight. — PinkAmpers& 23:48, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

"some of my best friends are straight" this is the same rhetoric from heterophobes. Even when they start calling us abnormal "Some of my best friends are straight, but i don't think they're normal". http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/sydney-news/being-straight-no-longer-normal-students-taught/story-e6freuzi-1226497360980. Please cease your heterophobia 3abos (talk) 00:27, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Well, I personally don't think heterosexuality is any more normal than homosexuality, but that's neither here nor there. Your remarks toward me are ad hominem, and I strongly encourage you to cease making them. If you want to debate gay rights with me, come on over to ##PinkAmpersand on IRC – it's one of my favorite issues, and I love some friendly disagreement. But I can't stress enough that Misplaced Pages is not the place to try to advance your own political beliefs. All edits must adhere to the neutral point of view policy; if you really aren't comfortable with that, you might want to try Conservapedia. — PinkAmpers& 00:41, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

I do not care about "gay rights" quite frankly anyone who is "gay" shouldn't be demanding rights as they are already "gay" ie happy. Nevertheless, my worry is heterosexual rights and your tone is incredibly heterophobic. You come on my page and be hateful and heterophobic, then you tell me to go debate you elsewhere. Can YOU please stop harassing me with your vile, hateful tone. I do not appreciate it. 3abos (talk) 00:52, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Let me be more direct

If you make any more responses that consist of trying to promote your political views, if you accuse me or anyone else of being "heterophobic" once again, if you continue to use hyperboles like "disgusting", "vile", and "hateful", I will report you to the Administrators' noticeboard on incidents and request that you be blocked. This will serve as your last warning.

If you'd like to politely request that I stop editing this talk page, that is your right, but if you continue to disrupt the project, I think you'll find yourself facing an indefinite block. — PinkAmpers& 01:16, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

once again, please stop threatening me it is very heterophobic, if it is heterophobia you suffer please see treatments http://www.allaboutcounseling.com/library/heterophobia/. Stop being hateful towards me, i do not appreciate it. Please stop harassing me and stop posting on my page. 3abos (talk) 01:48, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Notice

Hello. There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Think I've played nice long enough. Thank you. — PinkAmpers& 02:29, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

once again, cease your heterophobia and stop harassing me and stop editing my page. 3abos (talk) 03:20, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Personal Attacks

Hello 3abos, I am a Misplaced Pages Administrator. I've been drawn here by a discussion about you on the administrator's noticeboard. I am not encouraged by your comments above that you are here to build an encyclopedia. Particularly, your calling others heterophobes and saying that they are "calling us abnormal." This is going to be your only warning on the subject, if it's done again you will be indefinitely blocked.--v/r - TP 03:13, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

dear T i do not know what you are talking about? i ahve asked the specific user to stop harassing me, stop editing my page and stop being heterophobic towards me multiple times. yet he/she still keeps editing my page. if you take a look at my edit history as well you will realise that i have contributed greatly to many other pages other than Heterophobia. But i guess you have not. i do not see why i am being persecuted. I am not sure why this is the case, is it because i am a heterosexual? or because of my ethnic background? 3abos (talk) 03:23, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

OK, and I'm another admin, and I'm here to tell you the same thing. Such comments, such claims of persecution, only serve to antagonize other editors (besides the fact that they're ludicrous). For instance, I like some straight people, like my wife for instance, yet I'm telling you that the Heterophobia article was total rubbish. The best thing you can do is to drop such talk, just drop it altogether, and continue working on topics where you can be a positive influence. Drmies (talk) 04:02, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

St Mary's Cathedral

I'm pasting here my advice to new users.

Your edit to the Introduction of this article indicates that you added information and saved it without reading it to see if the sentence actually made sense.

"In 2008 the cathedral celebrated World Youth Day, with a visit from the Pope and the Patriarch in 2013."

OK, so you are telling us what? The the Pope and the Patriarch came to celebrate World Youth Day in 2008? so why have you tagged the date 2013 on the end of the sentence.

NOTE: you have listed the names of two people with nothing between them except the word "and". That puts them together at the same event.

Please read what you write!

Secondly, please don't add bleary crooked photos that convey very little info.

And please don't put pictures, including good ones, into sections of articles where they don't belong.

AJM's advice to new editors

• Look at the article to see how it is laid out. The Table of Contents is the best place to start.
• Read the article to see if what you want to add or remove is appropriate, necessary, or adds value.
• Search for the right place to put it.
• Check Use the "Show Preview" to make sure that what you have done is appropriate and correct.
• Discuss any change about which you are uncertain, by placing your proposed text, or just a suggestion, on the talk page. Someone who watches the article will usually answer in a day or so. You can monitor this by clicking the watch tag at the top of the page.
• Be aware
  • that an addition inserted between two sentences or paragraphs that are linked in meaning can turn the existent paragraphs into nonsense.
  • that a lengthy addition or the creation of a new sub-section can add inappropriate weight to just one aspect of a topic.

When adding images

• Look to see if the subject of your image is already covered. Don't duplicate subject matter already present. Don't delete a picture just to put in your own, unless your picture is demonstrably better for the purpose. The caption and nearby text will help you decide this.
• Search through the text to find the right place for your image. If you wish it to appear adjacent to a particular body of text, then place it above the text, not at the end of it.
• Look to see how the pictures are formatted. If they are all small thumbnails, do not size your picture at 300 px. The pictures in the article may have been carefully selected to follow a certain visual style e.g. every picture may be horizontal, because of restricted space; every picture might be taken from a certain source, so they all match. Make sure your picture looks appropriate in the context of the article.
• Read the captions of existent pictures, to see how yours should fit in.
• Check the formatting, placement, context and caption before you leave the page by using the Show preview function, and again after saving.
• Discuss If your picture seems to fill a real identifiable need in the article, but doesn't fit well, because of formatting or some other constraint, then put it on the talk page and discuss, before adding.
• Be aware that adding a picture may substantially change the layout of the article. Your addition may push another picture out of its relevant section or cause some other formatting problem.
• Edit before adding. Some pictures will look much better, or fit an article more appropriately if they are cropped to show the relevant subject.

Amandajm (talk) 11:53, 14 February 2013 (UTC)