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:Ok thanks. You can close the Steve Badger AFD if you want, I don't think it will pass and I'll be content if we can come to agreement on the talk page on improvements. We are making progress in that regard. I hadn't seen BRD before. I wish somebody had showed me that a long time ago. I've always used the '3 revert rule' as my guide. I'll go to the talk page on that article. ] (]) 00:04, 18 February 2013 (UTC) :Ok thanks. You can close the Steve Badger AFD if you want, I don't think it will pass and I'll be content if we can come to agreement on the talk page on improvements. We are making progress in that regard. I hadn't seen BRD before. I wish somebody had showed me that a long time ago. I've always used the '3 revert rule' as my guide. I'll go to the talk page on that article. ] (]) 00:04, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
::I don't know where the appropriate place to discuss this is, but regarding the external link spam, this has been discussed at length in the past. Sources like PokerListings and PokerPages are fine as sources, but not appropriate as external links on poker BLP's because there are so many of them that could be used, so either we have to have 20+ external links for poker players and let every spammer include theirs, or we have to restrict it to just their own homepages/twitter profiles etc, which was the consensus the last time I can recall this being discussed. I was successful 1-2 years ago in removing these from basically all poker BLP's but they have creeped back in. ] (]) 00:15, 18 February 2013 (UTC) ::I don't know where the appropriate place to discuss this is, but regarding the external link spam, this has been discussed at length in the past. Sources like PokerListings and PokerPages are fine as sources, but not appropriate as external links on poker BLP's because there are so many of them that could be used, so either we have to have 20+ external links for poker players and let every spammer include theirs, or we have to restrict it to just their own homepages/twitter profiles etc, which was the consensus the last time I can recall this being discussed. I was successful 1-2 years ago in removing these from basically all poker BLP's but they have creeped back in. ] (]) 00:15, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
::: Can you point me at that discussion? I've also posted a section at ] before I saw your comment here. ] 00:20, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

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Steve Badger

Hello,
it seems neither your proposal to delete nor your changes to the Steve Badger (poker player) article are supported by consensus at this time, so I would advise you against continuing to make drastic edits to the article; Do feel free to continue discussing the topic at its talk page, and you may want to invite further people to the discussion at e.g. WT:BIO or WT:WPBIO.
Amalthea 19:37, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

I didn't make drastic edits, I made a series of minor edits which when combined amounted to a drastically different article. I did that on purpose so people could revert individual edits they didn't agree with - but instead people are just rolling back all of them. How would you advise I proceed to avoid this happening again? DegenFarang (talk) 23:00, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
Possible, I only looked at the combined diff and saw 1200 bytes removed, including a New York Times reference.
Like with any content dispute I would advise to work out a consensus version on the article talk page. You've brought up two points you're contesting there already; give people some time to respond to that, and if there seems to be consensus (possibly silent consensus) make the change and move on to your next concern.
Amalthea 23:32, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
Ok I will take my time then, that's probably a good idea. As for the NYT source, that source only says that he won a WSOP bracelet, which is already sourced in the Hendon Mob link. That's another thing that I think is clear: there are way too many sources that all give the same information. It seems like an effort to make him seem more notable than he really is. DegenFarang (talk) 23:38, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
  1. Your AfD nominations are all incomplete and not formatted correctly. Please make sure to use the correct templates on the nomination pages, and transclude them at the day's listing. I've fixed the Steve Badger nomination for you in the hopes that you'll notice.
  2. Please slow down. While I can believe that some of the material should actually be removed per our policies, if you continue with aggressive content trimming removals and nominations for deletion will get you into trouble very quickly. Wait for the results of those AfDs before nominating any more.
  3. WP:BRD. This re-revert was not appropriate.

Amalthea 23:59, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Ok thanks. You can close the Steve Badger AFD if you want, I don't think it will pass and I'll be content if we can come to agreement on the talk page on improvements. We are making progress in that regard. I hadn't seen BRD before. I wish somebody had showed me that a long time ago. I've always used the '3 revert rule' as my guide. I'll go to the talk page on that article. DegenFarang (talk) 00:04, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
I don't know where the appropriate place to discuss this is, but regarding the external link spam, this has been discussed at length in the past. Sources like PokerListings and PokerPages are fine as sources, but not appropriate as external links on poker BLP's because there are so many of them that could be used, so either we have to have 20+ external links for poker players and let every spammer include theirs, or we have to restrict it to just their own homepages/twitter profiles etc, which was the consensus the last time I can recall this being discussed. I was successful 1-2 years ago in removing these from basically all poker BLP's but they have creeped back in. DegenFarang (talk) 00:15, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
Can you point me at that discussion? I've also posted a section at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Poker#Multiple links to profile pages before I saw your comment here. Amalthea 00:20, 18 February 2013 (UTC)