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In , she boasts that academics are 'very easy to troll' because they tend to be 'very thin skinned and self important' and mention ways to troll those deemed to be 'academic trolls'. Trolling the troll type philosophy I guess. The first couple of minutes of this video are where the trolling is discussed. This may provide some evidence to support claims of trolling or feeling intimidated by Andrea James. | In , she boasts that academics are 'very easy to troll' because they tend to be 'very thin skinned and self important' and mention ways to troll those deemed to be 'academic trolls'. Trolling the troll type philosophy I guess. The first couple of minutes of this video are where the trolling is discussed. This may provide some evidence to support claims of trolling or feeling intimidated by Andrea James. | ||
Jokestress while I do not believe she meant to advance pro-paedophilia viewpoints has nevertheless done just that in these diffs. This seems to be evidence of some fringe viewpoints that she holds whereby she feels that sexual attractions and identities should not be 'medicalised'. This is despite the fact that there is universal or near universal scientific consensus that paedophilia (a sexual preference for prepubescent children) is grossly abnormal disorder of the mind as exemplified in the academic literature and diagnostic psychiatric codes. I think that it is fair to say that some of Jokestresses viewpoints are ]. | Jokestress while I do not believe she meant to advance pro-paedophilia viewpoints has nevertheless done just that in these diffs. This seems to be evidence of some fringe viewpoints that she holds whereby she feels that sexual attractions and identities should not be 'medicalised'. This is despite the fact that there is universal or near universal scientific consensus that paedophilia (a sexual preference for prepubescent children) is a grossly abnormal disorder of the mind as exemplified in the academic literature and diagnostic psychiatric codes. I think that it is fair to say that some of Jokestresses viewpoints are ]. | ||
Jokestress much like James Cantor can and does make productive edits and this should be remembered when proposing any remedies or sanctions I feel.--] | ] 14:53, 22 February 2013 (UTC) | Jokestress much like James Cantor can and does make productive edits and this should be remembered when proposing any remedies or sanctions I feel.--] | ] 14:53, 22 February 2013 (UTC) |
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Evidence presented by James Cantor
Current word length: 834; diff count: 29.
Evidence of off-wiki campaign influencing on-wiki events
- NYTimes reporting on campaign of harassment by Jokestress against J. Michael Bailey.
- Jokestress’ Bailey-related target list.
- Peer-reviewed, comprehensive analysis of campaign, by bioethicist/historian. Coverage received a Guggenheim Award.
Evidence of chilling effect
- Evidence of Jokestress' protracted conflicts with openly trans- Wikipedian, User:Hfarmer.
- Jokestress’ updated target list, naming User:Hfarmer.
- Jokestress’ most-wanted list (including Hfarmer), asking readers "If you have received an email, attachment or photo from someone using these names or IP addresses in 2004 or earlier, please forward it to me for analysis,” so that she could "vector and expose" them.
- Example of results of off-wiki campaign against Hfarmer.
Evidence that Jokestress’ POV-pushing predates Cantor
Year | Example |
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2004 | Penile plethysmograph POV Penile plethysmograph POV-pushing (and self-link cite) Autogynephilia POV Autogynephilia POV-pushing |
2005 | J. Michael Bailey POV J. Michael Bailey POV-pushing |
2006 | Simon LeVay POV Simon LeVay POV-pushing; sustained conflicts with the consensus on talkpage |
2007 | |
2008 |
Homosexual transsexual POV |
Cantor joins WP in May, 2008; never edited before then.
Evidence that Jokestress’ distruptions occur without Cantor (2008+)
- ANI Jokestress re homosexual transsexual etc.
- ANI Archive438
- ANI Crusade
- ANI Andrea James
- ANI The faith and constructiveness of an editors edits in one subject area
- COIN Jokestress
- COIN Homosexual transsexual
- RSN Guidance on pseudodymous authors
- Requests for mediation/Rejected/40#Homosexual transsexual
- Mediation Cabal/Cases/2008-11-25
Evidence of other POV-pushing
- Adding links to her for-profit website (2004).
- Removing links to business competitors' sites (2005, 2006).
- Creating page about her business partner, Calpernia Addams (2005).
- Disrupting DYN discussion w/ uninvolved editors to push anti-Cantor POV (2010).
- Sustained/repeated counter-consensus additions of homosexuality to List of paraphilias (2008, 2010, 2012).
Evidence of Jokestress’ suppression of disfavored people/ideas
Evidence of Jokestress’ POV on Autogynephilia.
- Evidence of suppressed coverage of Autogynephilia on WP (from List of paraphilias):
Paraphilia Google Hits Google.Scholar Hits WP page? Chremastistophilia 8,840 3 Yes Salirophilia 15,000 13 Yes Mechanophilia 9,920 14 Yes Autagonistophilia 16,400 14 Yes Gynandromorphophilia 2,960 16 Yes Olfactophilia 12,300 17 Yes Abasiophilia 22,300 21 Yes Narratophilia 25,100 34 Yes Autassassinophilia 12,100 35 Yes Chronophilia 16,300 50 Yes Autovampirism 3,130 62 Yes Agalmatophilia 50,600 64 Yes Toucherism 2,690 70 Yes Biastophilia 20,300 96 Yes Acrotomophilia 45,100 114 Yes Apotemnophilia 47,400 375 Yes Autogynephilia 48,700 394 No Algolagnia 218,000 484 Yes Hebephilia 63,000 485 Yes Coprophilia 331,000 1,150 Yes Transvestism 425,000 13,700 Yes Pedophilia 6 million 17,900 Yes
Evidence of Jokestress' POV on Cantor
- Every RS to trans neuroanatomy is cited, except Cantor.
- Each author of the cited papers is mentioned by name, except Cantor..
Evidence regarding Cantor's behavior
I believe what matters most are pattern over time and responsiveness to feedback.
- Cantor began editing openly under his own name two months into his five years on WP.
- Cantor made and unerringly stick to his pledges to stay away from problematic pages, repeatedly inviting Jokestress to join him.
- Cantor repeatedly discloses associations on relevant talk pages.
- Cantor habitually walks away from conflicts when Jokestress arrives.
- Once the suggestion was made to him to submit subpages to RfC, he began doing so voluntarily (i.e., here).
- When reviewed, uninvolved editors repeatedly describe evidence/complaints against Cantor as unjustified and ancient:
Evidence of proportionality
For assessment of proportionality of coverage by topic, these are the attributions to CAMH and other targeted folks for the relevant topics:
Topic Google.Scholar Hits (2002-2013) Hits to CAMH/Dreger/Lawrence Articles Search string Pedophilia 11,500 20% of top 100 most cited articles Gender dysphoria 15,000 7% of top 100 most cited articles Gender identity disorder 73,000 14% of top 100 most cited articles Homosexuality 40,500 3% of top 100 most cited articles Autogynephilia 393 36% of top 100 most cited articles
For assessment of proportionality of coverage by person, these are the google search results for CAMH and other targeted folks:
Expert Google Hits Howard E. Barbaree 1.15 million Centre for Addiction and Mental Health 1.1 million J. Michael Bailey 523,000 Clarke Institute of Psychiatry 215,000 James M. Cantor 179,000 Kenneth J. Zucker 113,000 Alice D. Dreger 81,700 Meredith L. Chivers 67,000 Michael C. Seto 60,700 Anthony F. Bogaert 45,600 Ray Blanchard 38,400 Anne A. Lawrence 35,000
Evidence presented by Jokestress
Current word length: 954; diff count: 14.
Summary
James Cantor aka MarionTheLibrarian aka WriteMakesRight is a key figure in major ethical controversies in sexology. His Misplaced Pages edits reflect off-wiki attempts to promote himself/allies or denigrate critics. Cantor's alliance here owns relevant sexology articles, often hindering inclusion of competing conceptualizations and making personal attacks.
Background: key off-wiki sexology controversies
A: Gay genetic screening/abortion (1990s)
- Northwestern University sexologist J. Michael Bailey publishes on biology and sexual orientation affecting gay men, ultimately concluding that using genetic screening to abort gay fetuses is "morally acceptable." His contemporary Simon LeVay "cheerfully looks forward to the day when the 'new eugenics' born of the human genome project will enable women to abort fetuses likely to be carrying any traits they don't much care for, including homosexuality."
B: Academic exploitation of trans people (2003-2008)
- While promoting his controversial book on trans women, Bailey exploits images of gender-variant children without their consent in a "comical and vulgar performance" that provoked much laughter.
- Staunch defender Cantor claims "laughter was actually an affectionate recognition of the truth," writes glowing review, and claims anyone who disagrees is lying.
- Cantor disrupts trans symposium and is forced by his employer CAMH to apologize.
- Bailey promotes obscure sexological concepts developed at CAMH about "shemales." Citing CAMH sexologists and penile plethysmography, Bailey claims they can categorize trans children and adults into one of two sexualized types: "homosexual" or "autogynephilic." He claims the former "might be especially well-suited to prostitution" (185) and the latter are "erotically obsessed with the image of themselves as women." (146) Like Cantor, he says anyone who disagrees is lying.
- Bailey also claims not using CAMH's anti-trans "therapy" on elementary school children (similar to anti-gay reparative therapy) "might well come at the cost of more transsexual adults." (33)
- Trans women described in the book contact prominent trans figures, saying they were exploited without consent.
- I summarize the controversy in academic journal Gender Medicine. (full text)
- I also create several satires of Bailey’s exploitation of our children, including one using his adult son (age 19) and daughter (age 17) who were doing press for the book dedicated to them. I caption their photos with a quote from Bailey's book and a crude paraphrase of his sexualized categories of us. Many are enraged by my satire, but not by Bailey's similar exploitation of our children, proving my point.
- NU launches a full-scale Bailey investigation. Bailey resigns as department chair; NU refuses to disclose findings.
- Trans victory against Bailey/CAMH academic exploitation considered one of the great events in 158 years of LGBT History. (full text)
- A tiny minority of trans people support CAMH's taxonomy. Most self-identify as "homosexual transsexual" but have never obtained that diagnosis and likely never will. One such supporter, User:Hfarmer, tenaciously misused Misplaced Pages to assert this self-identity for years, similar to those who self-identified as having a competing fringe diagnosis called "Harry Benjamin Syndrome." Both factions raised many complaints against me here; my interactions were upheld by consensus.
- Cantor and allies attempt to rehabilitate Bailey/CAMH reputations by:
- Unsuccessfully attempting to stop my invited speech at Northwestern
- Defaming their critics in an academic journal they control.
- Unsuccessfully suppressing trans viewpoints at an academic conference.
- Getting sympathetic 2007 coverage from pro-Bailey journalist Benedict Carey at NYTimes (see 2005).
- Manipulating Misplaced Pages.
C: Bisexual men are "lying" (2003-2011)
- Carey publishes pro-Bailey/CAMH piece (later debunked) claiming bisexual men are liars. Our community's protests prompt Carey's 2007 pro-Bailey hit piece about academic exploitation of trans people, targeting key Carey critics. After I demand an interview from his editors, Carey asks one question (about my satire) and allows a 14-word response.
- "Cantor feels that bisexuals are not being honest with themselves again, and are relying on narcissistic abstract fantasies to make up for their truncated sexual identities."
D: Hebephilia (2008-present)
- Protests after APA names Cantor's CAMH colleagues to revise psychiatric "bible" DSM-5. They propose adding obscure paraphilias they promote.
- Legal and medical experts condemn hebephilia, a concept Cantor champions.
- Psychologist Karen Franklin summarizes why expert medical and legal consensus rejects "hebephilia," calls Cantor part of "an activist minority."
- Expert consensus rejects all three novel disorders proposed for DSM-5.
- Cantor once again attacks critics by many means, including manipulating Misplaced Pages.
E. Fucksaw incident (2011)
- NU officials ban Bailey's Human Sexuality course from being taught again after Bailey arranged a live on-campus fucksaw demonstration on a woman. NU's new Sexuality Studies course moves from Behavior Sciences to Gender Studies/History with different professor.
On-wiki disputes
Content disputes around the 2003 and older controversies were resolved long ago. Those articles remain stable. Lacking space, I'll focus on Cantor's COI self-promotion within Sexology topics, the 2013 hebephilia incident, his sympathetic proxies, and their personal attacks.
POV "consensus"
Personal attacks
Refuting Cantor "evidence"
- Autogynephilia "suppression"
- I voted to keep the separate article and expressed dismay about the umbrella article content . I frequently expanded our coverage on autogynephilia in a fair and accurate manner and have made no substantive edits since 2008 by agreement. Cantor continues to promote autogynephilia via edits in 2013 despite his oft-cited bogus "pledge" :
Editing outside Sexology
Cantor
Single-purpose account with few edits unrelated to Sexology/self-promotion. Of outside edits, two notable behaviors:
- Challenging the notability of prominent trans people and organizations (none of which I've ever edited):
Jokestress
My 49,000+ edits cover the full range of Misplaced Pages topics and are rarely disputed. Of 2,100+ articles I created, at least 50 (~2%) are Sexology articles. Perhaps 10 of those (~0.5%) have been substantively challenged and resolved via talk pages. I've even authored many articles on Canadian sex researchers that stand unchallenged:
I've even authored articles on Canadian CAMH sex researchers that have stood unchallenged:
Challenges only arise during James Cantor's COI editing/self-promotion.
Evidence presented by Dicklyon
Current word length: 263; diff count: 2.
James Cantor is a single-purpose academic-sexologist-POV pusher
Cantor started life at Misplaced Pages by attacking Andrea James and my friend Lynn Conway for their outspoken activism against J. Michael Bailey. He continues to push the POV of his academic sexologist friends.
- This edit by his MarionTheLibrarian persona, attacking Lynn Conway, first attracted my attention. Note that in it he refers to Lynn as "James", when he copied Some scholars have likened James to "the Al Sharpton rather than the M.L. King sort" of activist from the similar attack he had just made on Andrea James here. Note also that the referred quote from "some scholars" is referring to a web blog of another on his side, quoting James Cantor as the source! So, he gets his attack online, then copies it into WP and cites it. Thus started a long argument, in which he at one point inadvertently outed himself to me via email; after I let him know about that, he decided to switch to an account using his real name (I didn't out him). As he points out, his beef with Andrea James and Lynn Conway goes back to several years before he brought his vitriol to WP. Supporting his buds in academia would be OK if he was more balanced about representing their POV, but he continues to work hard to disallow balancing it with the POV from outside the academic circles that he and his friends control.
I have withdrawn from involving myself in this topic area, as it seems too toxic. I believe Cantor is one of the main reasons for that atmosphere. Dicklyon (talk) 21:35, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
Evidence presented by MrADHD
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Evidence that Jokestress trolls certain academics
In this video by Andrea James, she boasts that academics are 'very easy to troll' because they tend to be 'very thin skinned and self important' and mention ways to troll those deemed to be 'academic trolls'. Trolling the troll type philosophy I guess. The first couple of minutes of this video are where the trolling is discussed. This may provide some evidence to support claims of trolling or feeling intimidated by Andrea James.
Jokestress while I do not believe she meant to advance pro-paedophilia viewpoints has nevertheless done just that in these diffs. This seems to be evidence of some fringe viewpoints that she holds whereby she feels that sexual attractions and identities should not be 'medicalised'. This is despite the fact that there is universal or near universal scientific consensus that paedophilia (a sexual preference for prepubescent children) is a grossly abnormal disorder of the mind as exemplified in the academic literature and diagnostic psychiatric codes. I think that it is fair to say that some of Jokestresses viewpoints are WP:FRINGE.
Jokestress much like James Cantor can and does make productive edits and this should be remembered when proposing any remedies or sanctions I feel.--MrADHD | T@1k? 14:53, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
James Cantor is prone to POV push
James Cantor seems to have used wikipedia to promote hebephilia as a mental illness/mental disorder. This is a COI violation as his place of work receives money to research hebephilia and promote it as a proposed new mental health diagnosis. Hebephilia describes a sexual preference for young adolescents. There is universal consensus that young adolescents need to be protected by the law against adults who may seek to exploit or abuse young adolescents for sexual gratification reasons, however, currently there is no consensus that hebephilia is a mental illness and the American Psychiatric Association rejected hebephilia as a proposed new mental illness add-on to paedophilia. There is however, a near universal scientific consensus that paedophilia is a mental disorder. Very controversial subject matter! I am even nervous talking about it here but it needs mentioning.
Example of POV pushing: I added in content about hebephilia not being accepted in the DSM V and James Cantor quickly removed it. Whether his revert was justified is debatable but I was struck by how he claimed BLP issues when there were none seemingly to get around COI editing restrictions. I tried to resolve the issue on the talk page with James Cantor with limited success. James Cantor then edited in descriptive terms on his professional opponents which reduced the credibility of their views such as labeling them in article text as 'kink advocate' and 'defense psychologist'.
It appears User:James Cantor created a deception account called User:MarionTheLibrarian where he would edit articles relating to Jokestress (real name Andrea James) as well as other COI topics so it appears that the on-wiki harassing between Jokestress and James Cantor was started by James Cantor.
James Cantor does make productive edits so this should be kept in mind I feel when consider what if any action needs to be taken,--MrADHD | T@1k? 14:29, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
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