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::In good faith, I feel that I should note that Dot Bitch does not use the &lt;big&gt; tags that Thewolfstar and Lamb of god were fond of. Also, the user was unaware (to my knowledge) of how to sign comments and appeared to get my name from the Esperanza member list. I could be wrong, but I figure I might as well keep good faith in mind. - '''<font color="#003399">]</font>'' '''<sup><font color="#009933">]</font></sup>'' 16:11, 21 May 2006 (UTC) ::In good faith, I feel that I should note that Dot Bitch does not use the &lt;big&gt; tags that Thewolfstar and Lamb of god were fond of. Also, the user was unaware (to my knowledge) of how to sign comments and appeared to get my name from the Esperanza member list. I could be wrong, but I figure I might as well keep good faith in mind. - '''<font color="#003399">]</font>'' '''<sup><font color="#009933">]</font></sup>'' 16:11, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

:::As I said, it's possible, but can't be confirmed. However, if the individual has grown savvy enough to make attempts at avoiding detection, it is not a very far stretch to desguising stylistic features and feigning ignorance. At about the 500th sockpuppet investigation, you begin to realize the great lengths people will go to in order to make just one more edit. <span style="font-family: Verdana">] <font color="#7b68ee">(<small>] • ]</small>)</font></span> 16:20, 21 May 2006 (UTC)


=== Definitely Lightbringer=== === Definitely Lightbringer===

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    This is the place to request sockpuppet checks and other investigations requiring access to the Checkuser privilege. Possible alternatives are listed below.


    Requests likely to be accepted

    Code Situation Solution, requirements
    A Blatant attack or vandalism accounts, need IP block Submit new section at #Requests for IP check, below
    B Evading blocks, bans and remedies issued by arbitration committee Submit case subpage, including link to closed arb case
    C Ongoing, serious pattern vandalism with many incidents Submit case subpage, including diffs
    D Vote fraud, closed vote, fraud affects outcome Submit case subpage, including link to closed vote
    E 3RR violation using sockpuppets Submit case subpage, including diffs of violation
    F Evading blocks, bans and remedies issued by community Submit case subpage, including link to evidence of remedy
    G Does not fit above, but you believe check needed Submit case subpage, briefly summarize and justify

    Requests likely to be rejected

    Situation Solution
    Obvious, disruptive sock puppet Block, no checkuser needed
    Disruptive "throwaway" account used only for a few edits Block, no checkuser needed
    Checkuser on yourself to "prove your innocence" Such requests are rarely accepted, please do not ask
    Related to ongoing arbitration case Request checkuser on the arbitration case pages
    Vote fraud, ongoing vote Wait until vote closes before listing, or post at Misplaced Pages:Suspected sock puppets
    Vote fraud, closed vote, did not affect outcome List at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents or Misplaced Pages:Suspected sock puppets
    Other disruption of articles List at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents or Misplaced Pages:Suspected sock puppets
    Open proxy, IP address already known List at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Open proxies
    You want access to the checkuser tool yourself Contact the Arbitration Committee, but such access is granted rarely


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    These indicators are used by Checkusers, SPI clerks and other patrolling users, to allow easier at-a-glance reading of their notes, actions and comments.
    Case decisions:
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     Blocked but awaiting tags  {{Sblock}}  Not possible  {{Impossible}}
     Blocked and tagged  {{Blockedandtagged}}  Blocked without tags  {{Blockedwithouttags}}
     No tags  {{No tags}}  Blocked and tagged. Closing.  {{Blockedtaggedclosing}}
    Information:
     Additional information needed  {{MoreInfo}}  Deferred  {{Deferred}}
    information Note:  {{TakeNote}}  In progress  {{Inprogress}}
    Clerk actions:
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     Delisted  {{Delisted}}  Relisted  {{Relisted}}
     Clerk declined  {{Decline}}  Clerk endorsed  {{Endorse}}
    Self-endorsed by clerk for checkuser attention  {{Selfendorse}} CheckUser requested  {{CURequest}}
    Specific to CheckUser:
     Confirmed  {{Confirmed}} Red X Unrelated  {{Unrelated}}
     Confirmed with respect to the named user(s). no No comment with respect to IP address(es).  {{Confirmed-nc}}
     Technically indistinguishable  {{Technically indistinguishable}}
     Likely  {{Likely}}  Unlikely  {{Unlikely}}
     Possible  {{Possible}}  Inconclusive  {{Inconclusive}}
    no Declined  {{Declined}} no Unnecessary  {{Unnecessary}}
     Stale (too old)  {{StaleIP}} no No comment  {{Nocomment}}
    crystal ball CheckUser is not a crystal ball  {{Crystalball}} fish CheckUser is not for fishing  {{Fishing}}
     CheckUser is not magic pixie dust  {{Pixiedust}} magic eight ball The CheckUser Magic 8-Ball says:  {{8ball}}
     Endorsed by a checkuser  {{Cu-endorsed}}  Check declined by a checkuser  {{Cudecline}}
     Possilikely (a mix between possible and likely)  {{possilikely}}


    Note: Individuals making requests must check back regularly. The role of checkusers is to report findings; it is the responsibility of the individual making the request to see that appropriate action is taken.

    Outstanding requests

    Declined requests

    Science3456

    Football closed an MfD that Science3456 has been using many sockpuppets to close improperly. Football has various unrelated edits, but I believe they were only made to make him look more like an established user (and be able to edit a semi-protected page, too). rspeer / ɹəədsɹ 02:48, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

    Declined. Those being checked must have recent contributions. Essjay (TalkConnect) 01:53, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

    142.22.186.13

    Hi. The user with this IP has only contributed vandalism. ] I'm guessing this deserves a blocking. Thanks for your time. Frankman 05:13, 20 May 2006

    Declined.. You seem to have confused requests for checkuser investigation with Administrator Intervention Against Vandalism. Essjay (TalkConnect) 01:45, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

    Completed requests

    User:Thewolfstar and its meatpuppet User:Lamb of god

    Another suspected sock of Thewolfstar (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), permabanned by the community for extreme disruptiveness: new user Dot_Bitch (talk · contribs). Check please? Note, please check also if Dot Bitch is related to Lamb_of_god (talk · contribs), permanently blocked as meatpuppet of Thewolfstar. Dot Bitch has similar interests and same stylistic tics as previous identities (such as beginning messages with "Hey" not followed by any punctuation — fairly distinctive). Dot Bitch's very few edits include a sympathetic one on User talk:Lamb of god and one to User:CorbinSimpson, an encourager of Thewolfstar. Bishonen | talk 11:59, 21 May 2006 (UTC).

    information Note: I'll check, in order to maintain current records, but that username is a clear {{usernameblock}}, regardless of the results. Essjay (TalkConnect) 12:23, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

     Possible. Dot Bitch is editing from an IP registered to a hosting company; good traffic *rarely* comes from hosting companies. This is a common trick of sockpuppeteers to avoid detection. I can't confirm it outright, but it is certainly possible. Essjay (TalkConnect) 12:40, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

    Also, note that Macai (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) appears to be the same user as Thewolfstar. Essjay (TalkConnect) 12:42, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
    Thanks for the check. Macai claims to be her 18-year-old son, living with her, sharing a LAN network. I have spoken with him, and assume good faith. I believe he is who he says he is, for several reasons. Anyway, there's no abuse coming from the Macai account. Bishonen | talk 13:07, 21 May 2006 (UTC).
    That's entirely likely. The two are definately coming from the same machine/personal network; the pattern is too distinct for it to be a dynamic IP or other similar situation. Essjay (TalkConnect) 13:15, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
    In good faith, I feel that I should note that Dot Bitch does not use the <big> tags that Thewolfstar and Lamb of god were fond of. Also, the user was unaware (to my knowledge) of how to sign comments and appeared to get my name from the Esperanza member list. I could be wrong, but I figure I might as well keep good faith in mind. - Corbin 16:11, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
    As I said, it's possible, but can't be confirmed. However, if the individual has grown savvy enough to make attempts at avoiding detection, it is not a very far stretch to desguising stylistic features and feigning ignorance. At about the 500th sockpuppet investigation, you begin to realize the great lengths people will go to in order to make just one more edit. Essjay (TalkConnect) 16:20, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

    Definitely Lightbringer

    Newmason has two posts to Talk:Freemasonry, one of which reiterates "Freemasonry is Satanism" here, and the other asking for examples of how FreemasonryWatch is wrong here. I would also request that Newmason's IP be checked against the other (inconclusive) RFCU I requested recently. MSJapan 05:30, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

    Confirmed definately Lightbringer, and not related to the other. Essjay (TalkConnect) 09:24, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

    Science3456's latest puppets

    Okay, didn't know that the recency rule was that restrictive. In that case, I'd like to compare two users that I consider to be recent sockpuppets of Science3456:

    Again, they were both involved in improperly closing the same MFD that many Science3456 puppets have been closing or disrupting. rspeer / ɹəədsɹ 03:08, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

    Note: There isn't a recency "rule," it's a technical limitation; IP addresses are only stored for a certain period of time. This is indicated in the instructions to the page, #4: "Data is kept for a limited time so we cannot compare against accounts that have not edited recently." Additionally, please place requests in this section, rather than at the end of the completed queue. Essjay (TalkConnect) 03:27, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

    Inconclusive. If there are other recent sockpuppets, I can check against them. Essjay (TalkConnect) 03:38, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

    Whas / Camridge

    I've merged this into a single request. I generally wouldn't perform requests like this, as it borders on "fishing", but will in this case due to the Arbitration matter. I'll have a report on this shortly. Essjay (TalkConnect) 11:52, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

    I am mentor on the Neuro-linguistic programming article. We've had many problems sockpuppets and meatpuppets. Whas and Doc pato have come in on the "pro" side recently. They have not done really any other editing. Doc pato has come on in the last few days. Could someone do a checkuser to see if these 2 are the same people? I have a similar request below. It'd be much appreciated. --Woohookitty 10:23, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

    Unrelated. Two completely different hemispheres. Essjay (TalkConnect) 13:00, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

    I am mentor on the Neuro-linguistic programming article. We've had many problems sockpuppets and meatpuppets. Camridge and HeadleyDown are on the "anti" side. There has been evidence presented in the past that shows that they never crossed paths, i.e. they are never posting at the same time. --Woohookitty 10:23, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

    Possible The two are coming from the same university, but a number of other legitimate contributors are as well. The edit pattern will have to be the deciding factor. Essjay (TalkConnect) 13:00, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

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