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| :::I know. ''Wiener Philharmoniker'' is the native name. - See more name examples also on the project talk. Can we please focus the discussion at one place? Here? --] (]) 15:53, 18 March 2013 (UTC) | |||
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This template
This template has been set up as a result if the discussion at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Classical music starting 16 March 2013. It is intended for symphony orchestras but may also be used for smaller ensembles if necessary. --Kleinzach 03:38, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
- If it's to be used for other ensembles, then a
|type=parameter would be needed. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:37, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
more parameters
I see many orchestras which switched names in history, orchestras which existed only for a certain time, orchestras merged. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:11, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
- I've added a
|disbanded=parameter. Perhaps a|merged_into)) or ((para=successorwould be useful; with a corresponding|constituents=or|predecessor=? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:35, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
This new infobox looks promising, but should not replace infoboxes with additional, useful, parameters, such as those in City of Birmingham Symphony Orchestra, until it can handle similar detail (with better labels, of course). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:35, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
Later name
The purpose of |later_name= is unclear. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:38, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
- If different names for one orchestra, earliers names might be of interest, the current (later) name would be the article title, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:47, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
Changes made without discussion/'Native name' field
I am opposed to any changes to the template made without discussion. These shouldn't be happening — as I have said here.
I'm also against using a 'native name' field. There was no support for this in the discussion leading up to the creation of the box. --Kleinzach 14:31, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
- I am for unrestricted changes, - I didn't make them, but why not use the advantage of a wiki? - I would first collect possible parameters and then decide what is not needed. Native name is needed, if you ask me, for example the orchestra you call Vienna Philharmonic here calls itself Wiener Philharmoniker, - I would like to see that.
- See Vienna Philharmonic. It's the name of the article. --Kleinzach 14:55, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
- I know. Wiener Philharmoniker is the native name. - See more name examples also on the project talk. Can we please focus the discussion at one place? Here? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:53, 18 March 2013 (UTC)