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Deletion of Exsite Webware (software)

Can you explain why you speedy-deleted this 2-yr old page? It was quite useful for developers looking to understand the origins of this useful package. Your explanation didn't make much sense, so we out here in radio-land would sure appreciate knowing what you were thinking when you did this. If you can't "undelete" it, could you at least point us to the text of the most recent version so we'd have a decent chance of recreating it? I was just involved in trying to get the developers to upload their logo (which I can't do because I'm not the owner of the logo). There's quite a lot of work there that you flushed down the toilet and, if nothing else, I'd like to get it back. Santamoly (talk) 04:13, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

PS: Is it you (RHaworth) who deleted this page, or someone else (a "Captain Conundrum")? The message on my talk page was signed by "Captain Conundrum", but the deletion info on the Exsite Webware page was signed by you (RHaworth). I'm also puzzled by the "copyrighted text or images obtained from other web sites" label. I wrote some of the original contributions, and none of it was copied. Now that you've deleted the page, I can't verify or dispute what you're saying since others may have added to the article in the 2 years that it has been in place. Or perhaps Exsite Webware lifted the WP article for their own page. Please restore the article ASAP. It doesn't deserve Speedy Deletion especially since it was in place for several years, and it's original content. Then we (editors) can figure out what was going on. The last I saw of it, it was a good article.Santamoly (talk) 05:56, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

• I don't call two years "several". You definitely are a Misplaced Pages dilettante - the story is perfectly simple and easy to understand: Captain Conundrum (talk · contribs) proposed deletion by applying a {{db-copyvio}} tag and notified you. I then deleted it as the deletion log states. The story of the alleged copy source being actually copied from Misplaced Pages is quite possible but I am not willing to restore since the article was also deletable on the grounds of lack of evidence of notability. I am happy to let you see the text - read this. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:04, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

I'm not too thrilled that you choose to start this conversation by hurling insults. That's so clearly against WP principles that I'm astonished that you have any kind of administrative capacity. I've done nothing to deserve this kind of abuse, which you seem to enjoy dishing out, even to the point of calling yourself "bolshie" (which doesn't appear to be very WP-ish). But, back to the topic at hand: I have opened an email address, and look forward to viewing the article. If you would be so kind as to point out what you think is copy-vio, please do so. The article concerns a computer operating system, so you also must be careful saying that it's not notable if you're naught but a bolshie artist, for example. The article has been through this kind of mindless bolshie AFD-copy-vio/lack-of-notability activity before, so I'd like to see if we're witnessing a repeat of previous episodes in which no problem was found after AFD, when in fact nobody had actually looked at the article. Regardless of your radical instincts, could you please overcome your revolutionary urges and email the article to me so I can start dealing with your bolshie concerns ASAP. With all due respect, of course. Santamoly (talk) 06:00, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

• OK, you feel insulted but there is no need to go on at such length. I still cannot see the e-mail link. Did you tick "enable email from other users"? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:44, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, I'd not checked the checkbox, so now you should see it. Please send the docs over so I can start to work on verifying your claims. Santamoly (talk) 16:07, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

• E-mailed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:09, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Admin's Barnstar
	For your fantastic work at CSD....keep it up! TheStrikeΣagle 15:13, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Deletion of playforbitcoins.com

Hi, I appreciate your time and energy on this great, great site. I'm new to writing Misplaced Pages content, and would like to know why my page was deleted, and what I can do to (what information is necessary) to ensure it stays online. Thank you for your time! - Meir — Preceding unsigned comment added by Meir3892 (talk • contribs) 01:43, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

• The article was very short, contained no assertion of notability and no evidence of it. Kindly wait until a) it becomes notable and b) someone with no COI writes about it here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:09, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Deletion of Footballidentity

Hi I wish to contest the deletion of footballidentity as I feel this entry is in keeping with a niche area of wikipedia which can be found here - in fact I used some of those entries as a template for the entry. I am not trying to advertise this site (and did not even include a link to the site) so I specifically tried not to create the article as an advertisement merely an informative piece adding to the above linked niche. Thanks, Collyfire (talk) 11:32, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

• What a strange idea that omitting the link might make the article look more acceptable - it merely makes it look more like an hoax. No attempt to provide evidence of notability. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:09, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Who is he, god?

Wow, he just goes around deciding what pages he wants to delete, and he lays waste to them. My Dodaf 2.0 text was parallel to what was already there for the dodaf v1.5, so I don't see why he objects to filling in the missing portion. What a pig. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kitdaddio (talk • contribs) 01:15, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Sadly the deletionists (who rarely have any interest or abiltiy to create articles) use Misplaced Pages to make themselves feel powerful and, as a lobby group, have become veray adept at rewarding each other and driving out anyone who stands in their way - effectively slowly killing Misplaced Pages as it was originally intended. Don't lose any sleep over it. When someone who attacks new users and kills content on sight is given endless Barnstars and positions of power you know that this site is going to WikiHell. DiverScout (talk) 12:20, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Exopolitics

There are 2 more dormant expolitics drafts in userspace - but the editors are still active. Not sure what to do if anything about those. Dougweller (talk) 14:18, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

• It would help if you gave me links to them. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:39, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

It certainly would, mea culpa. User:Arb/Exopolitics and User:Degen Earthfast/Exopolitics. Dougweller (talk) 12:00, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

• I have just zapped them and hope their respective authors don't notice/object. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 00:18, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 05:32, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Kino-100

I see you blocked Kino-100 (talk · contribs) as a sock puppet; you should be aware of User:Nino-100, who has picked up the creation of articles about Antonio Montiel, including the use of the userpage for that purpose. Yngvadottir (talk) 20:27, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

• He has used various titles, none of which is Antonio Montiel! — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:39, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

I know, I know! I gave him a little lesson on his userpage, but it would probably have to be in Spanish to do any good. And looking at the long list of deletions on es.wikipedia makes me disinclined to hunt for sources myself. He also keeps uploading that pic on Commons and it's been deleted at least once for copyright infringement ... I hope someone Spanish-speaking can get through to him. Yngvadottir (talk) 20:45, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

• Gosh, yes. es:Antonio montiel and es:Antonio Montiel deleted 19 times between them - don't the Spanish admins know about protection? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:14, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

FYI: Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Lupe-340 because he'll probably be back. It's extraordinary how some people are unable to get the message. — JohnCD (talk) 10:11, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Trinity College Chapel

Can you move Trinity College Chapel to Trinity College Chapel, Kandy and the Trinity College Chapel (disambiguation) back to Trinity College Chapel? I see you did this before. I have now done an article on Trinity College Chapel, Cambridge. — Barney the barney barney (talk) 12:33, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Deletions made to several Wiki pages

Mr. Haworth, In researching some State of Texas (USA) political history (specifically listings of members of the State legislative body during the late 1880s), I find that there are several pages that have been deleted, which list you as being the individual who deleted them. The deletions are noted to have been made on Dec 4, 2012. Specifically, these are the 22nd thru the 44th Legislature (1891 thru 1935). These pages are: 22nd Texas Legislature through 44th Texas Legislature.

The page for the preceding legislature (21st) and subsequent (45th) are still there, but show that they had been redirected as of Dec 3, 2012 (I don't know why, but with that date being the day before, perhaps that was you, also).

Can you tell me why these pages were deleted and can they be re-posted. I'm researching some family genealogy, as my great great grandfather was a Texas state representative during the late 19th century and I was trying to find out the specifics of his service during this time.

I thank you, in advance, for you attention to this matter and any response or further information that you can furnish. Respectfully submitted, Brian A. McDaniel Rowlett, Texas — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.226.208.117 (talk) 22:16, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

• You saw that I had deleted them but apparently did not look at the deletion reason "G8: Redirect to a deleted or non-existent page". 34th Texas Legislature for example consisted simply of: "#REDIRECT Thirty-fourth Texas Legislature". Someone had done the rather pointless exercise of creating redirects to articles which do not yet exist. So, sorry - I have not deleted any useful information. You must research your great great grandfather elsewhere - and in the process perhaps you would like to create some of these legislature articles for us! — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:32, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Roarie Deacon

Hi, Could you kindly restore the page for footballer Roarie Deacon. Today he made an appearance for Stevenage in the Football League, and therefore passes all the notability guidelines. Cheers. — SBFCEdit (talk) 18:12, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

• I shall expect to see it updated and expanded PDQ. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:07, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

BeasttoBeast

Hey,

Thought I'd forward this to you considering your prior involvement: http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/BeasttoBeast

Cheers. --GSK ● ✉ ✓ 18:49, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

UWRF pages

Just curious why you felt that various University of Wisconsin–River Falls pages were not considered "noteworthy"? These pages (Rugby, Equestrian, Swimming and Diving) about various sports programs and other organizations at the university are consistent with other pages written about other university's programs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tbc32 (talk • contribs) 19:39, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) If you created individual pages for these topics, that may be why. I can't see why those topics couldn't be covered in the primary article. --GSK ● ✉ ✓ 19:42, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Please note that I am not RHaworth. My username is GSK. I watch a number of pages, including RHaworth's. I noticed your comment, and decided to offer a potential point of view. --GSK ● ✉ ✓ 20:34, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

I created one of the pages, but made it a separate page because the main article had grown too long... It doesn't make sense to me to have an excessively long page when there can (and should) be several sub-pages. I noticed that you didn't delete all the sub-pages. Why did you choose the three that you did delete? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tbc32 (talk • contribs) 19:47, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

• At 36k bytes the UWRF article is by no means too long, given that these sports programs are only worthy of one page each. Did I miss some sub-pages? Tell me which they are please. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:40, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

70.235.84.246 (talk) 14:04, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Deletion of AURA Travel

Didn't you jump the gun on this? Mangoe (talk) 13:07, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

• No. It was blatant spam. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:59, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

User:Ameilaamericajones

Any idea why everything that could go wrong, actually went wrong with User:Ameilaamericajones? A brand new user creates a user page with what looks to be an attempt for an article, something which should be encouraged in general.

• It gets tagged as G2 (test page), a criterion that doesn't even apply to user space.
• It gets moved incorrectly to talk namespace, and then slightly more correctly to user talk namespace (still a useless move, it any move needed to be done it should have been to a /sandbox subpage); the redirects are deleted, so the user page is not even a redirect to the user talk page, but a redlink
• It gets (correctly!) moved back to its original location
• And then you delete it for G2 after all, even though that doesn't apply.

Am I missing something here (some unspoken deletion reason) or is this what actually happened? Seems all rather WP:BITEy and wrong. I can't undelete it myself , since Kumioko (the original tagger for speedy) would shout "involved!". Perhaps someone should also explain the speedy criteria to him, as while many of his tags correctly identofy a page that should be deleted, the reasons given are often wrong (e.g. with User:Kjtyme). He should be made aware that G2 doesn't apply to userspace, and G5 only for creations "after" the user was blocked or banned (so User:Veelead/sandbox, created 5 minutes before the block, shouldn't be deleted as a G5). Fram (talk) 12:33, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

• I like to see a link to the article under discussion. It looks to me like a standard nn-bio. OK (see below), A7 deletions do not, strictly speaking, apply to user pages so I have no objections if you insist on restoring it. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:29, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
  • "Strictly speaking"? It doesn't apply to user pages at all. NN-bio doesn't apply to user pages. Even as an article, it would have been a borderline A7 (appearing as herself in multiple TV (reality) series is some claim to importance at least), Fram (talk) 11:12, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

International Talk Like Batman Day

Excuse me sir, I would like to know why you deleted International Talk Like Batman Day introduced to Misplaced Pages this morning. This Holiday has now been officially recognized by our Mayor here in Kelowna BC. I do not understand why this article was deleted, as there are very many like this one up on Misplaced Pages (AKA International Bacon Day).

Thank you much! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sarai91t (talk • contribs) 17:23, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

• World famous in Kelowna, BC is not enough. Wait until it is genuinely international. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:29, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

G11/G12 for sandboxes

Just wondering if I can get your thoughts on this? The sandbox in question, User:Hpws1ick/sandbox was a blatant promo and copyvio. I've asked AB about this here. I delete these all the time, and I know you delete them as well, along with other fellow admins I've seen who're active with CSD. I don't want a good CSD tagger like SuperMarioMan to get discouraged, as seems to be the case here. Thanks for your time. INeverCry 06:23, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

• I agree with you and have told SuperMarioMan (talk · contribs) that. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:29, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

• I have commented at User talk:INeverCry. As I say there I am prepared to be corrected; it was certainly not my intention to discourage any editor, and certainly not a good CSD tagger. The perceived criticism was directed at Twitter, which can be non-selective, not at him.--Anthony Bradbury 10:21, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

• What has Twitter got to do with it? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:29, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
  • The sandbox edit was identified by Twitter; or so the tagging editor said. --Anthony Bradbury 14:46, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Cyber bullying

Hello RHaworth
I am writing this comment to you to voice my concerns about this particular editor after reading about other conflicts that this editor seems to become involved with on numerous occasions. I had some disagreement with deletion notices he had raised on pages that I had created which under normal circumstances is usually resolved one way or another with fair and balanced argument and a consensus agreed. At one stage I pointed out to this editor about his lack of civility and criticized him here for his use of bad language. The editor in question then began do slap deletion notices on other articles I had created or contributed to. Many of the articles were of Natural locations and well referenced. All the notices dually failed but it is oblivious to me that this editor had used this as a tool in some sort of cyber bulling tactic which it seems he has used before along with others. I point this out to you as I am aware that you have been an administrator on Misplaced Pages for a long time and I have respected your wise words and comments in the past. I am not sure what can be done here but I look to you for some answers. Below is some evidence of this problem.

• Agua Blanca
• Cala Benirrás
• Cala Salada
• Platja S'Estanyol
• Cala Bassa
• Cala d’Hort
• Further acquisitions of Cyber Bullying and here discussions, Here, and again here.  stavros1  ♣  12:30, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

• Plenty of precedent for blocking so I have done just that. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:31, 5 April 2013 (UTC)