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''''']''''' is a 1991 American film, written, directed, and produced by the ] ''(pictured)''. Set in 1941, it stars ] in the title role as a young New York City ] who is hired to write scripts for a movie studio in Hollywood, and ] as Charlie, the insurance salesman who lives next door at the run-down Hotel Earle. The Coens wrote the screenplay in three weeks while experiencing difficulty during the writing of another film, '']''. Soon after ''Miller's Crossing'' was finished, the Coens began filming ''Barton Fink'', which had its premiere at the ] in May 1991. In a rare sweep, ''Barton Fink'' won the '']'', as well as awards for ] and ] (Turturro). Although it was celebrated almost universally by critics and nominated for three ]s, the movie grossed only $6,000,000 at the box office, two-thirds of its estimated budget. The process of writing and the culture of entertainment production are two prominent themes of ''Barton Fink''. The world of ] is contrasted with that of ], and the film analyzes superficial distinctions between ] and ]. Other themes in the film include fascism and ]; slavery and conditions of labor in creative industries; and how intellectuals relate to "the common man". Because of its diverse elements, ''Barton Fink'' has defied efforts at genre classification. It has been variously referred to as a ], a ], a '']'', and a ].{{TFAFULL|Barton Fink}} | ''''']''''' is a 1991 American film, written, directed, and produced by the ] ''(pictured)''. Set in 1941, it stars ] in the title role as a young New York City ] who is hired to write scripts for a movie studio in Hollywood, and ] as Charlie, the insurance salesman who lives next door at the run-down Hotel Earle. The Coens wrote the screenplay in three weeks while experiencing difficulty during the writing of another film, '']''. Soon after ''Miller's Crossing'' was finished, the Coens began filming ''Barton Fink'', which had its premiere at the ] in May 1991. In a rare sweep, ''Barton Fink'' won the '']'', as well as awards for ] and ] (Turturro). Although it was celebrated almost universally by critics and nominated for three ]s, the movie grossed only $6,000,000 at the box office, two-thirds of its estimated budget. The process of writing and the culture of entertainment production are two prominent themes of ''Barton Fink''. The world of ] is contrasted with that of ], and the film analyzes superficial distinctions between ] and ]. Other themes in the film include fascism and ]; slavery and conditions of labor in creative industries; and how intellectuals relate to "the common man". Because of its diverse elements, ''Barton Fink'' has defied efforts at genre classification. It has been variously referred to as a ], a ], a '']'', and a ]. {{TFAFULL|Barton Fink}} | ||
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Here the community can nominate articles to be selected as "Today's featured article" (TFA) on the main page. The TFA section aims to highlight the range of articles that have "featured article" status, from Art and architecture through to Warfare, and wherever possible it tries to avoid similar topics appearing too close together without good reason. Requests are not the only factor in scheduling the TFA (see Choosing Today's Featured Article); the final decision rests with the TFA coordinators: Wehwalt, Dank, Gog the Mild and SchroCat, who also select TFAs for dates where no suggestions are put forward. Please confine requests to this page, and remember that community endorsement on this page does not necessarily mean the article will appear on the requested date.
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Summary chart
Currently accepting requests from February 1 to March 3.
Date | Article | Points | Notes | Supports | Opposes |
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Nonspecific 1 | Broken Sword: The Shadow of the Templars | 0 | 2 | 1 | |
Nonspecific 2 | Flame Robin | 2 | -2 pts if before May 22 (within one month of another bird on mainpage); promoted 2010. | 3 | 0 |
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Nonspecific 4 | Gender Bender | 0 | possibly -2 pts if before May 27 | 1 | 0 |
May 13 | Michigan State Trunkline Highway System | 7 | Centennial of creation, no similar article in past 3 months | 5 | 0 |
May 16 | Final Fantasy XI | 3 | 5 years FA, 11th anniversary of release, widely covered, -2 because God of War within a month | 7 | 0 |
May 22 | Richard Wagner | 11 | bicentenary, vital article, requestor is a sig. contributor and has not had a 'Today's FA' before. | 11 | 0 |
May 24 | Thescelosaurus | 9 | centenary of original description (6), article promoted in 2007 (2), and no dinosaurs (non-avian) in past 3 months (1) | 6 | 0 |
May 25 | May Revolution | 6 | date relevant to article topic (1), widely covered topic (2), requester's contribution history (1), and lack of similar articles as TFA in past 6 months (2) | 2 | 0 |
May 25 alternative | Heinrich Bär | 6 | centenary anniversary of his birthdate (6), article promoted in 2009 (2), Operation Teardrop article featured within a month (-2). | 1 | 0 |
May 29 | The Rite of Spring | 8+ | centenary of premiere, widely covered, possibly +1 or +2 for time since similar articles | 6 | 0 |
Tally may not be up to date; please do not use these tallies for removing a nomination according to criteria 1 or 3 above unless you have verified the numbers. The nominator is included in the number of supporters.
Nonspecific date nominations
Nonspecific date 1
Broken Sword: The Shadow of the Templars
Broken Sword: The Shadow of the Templars is a 1996 adventure video game developed by Revolution Software. The player assumes the role of George Stobbart, an American tourist in Paris, as he unravels a conspiracy. The game takes place in both real and fictional locations in Europe and the Middle East. In 1992, Cecil, writer and director of the game, began researching the Knights Templar for the game after he, Noirin Carmody and Sean Brennan conceived Broken Sword. It was built with Revolution's Virtual Theatre engine, also used for the company's previous two games. Cecil wrote and directed the game, while Eoghan Cahill and Neil Breen drew the backgrounds in pencil and digitally colored them in Photoshop. The game is serious in tone, but also features humor and graphics in the style of classic animated films. The million-selling title was critically acclaimed and won numerous awards. It is known as one of the best examples of adventure gaming and many developers have cited it as an influence. After its initial release on Windows, Mac OS, and PlayStation, it was ported to the Game Boy Advance, Palm OS, and Windows Mobile. The game spawned a number of sequels collectively known as the Broken Sword series. From 2009 to 2012, a director's cut version was released on Wii, Nintendo DS, Windows, Mac OS X, iOS, and Android. (Full article...)
I believe this article gets zero points, but I'd still like to get a second TFA. So, what do you think? :) --Khanassassin ☪ 17:10, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
- support sure, why not? Just space it a bit from the one below. and intersperse with some more classic/biology/history articles. Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:25, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
- Nothing against it, but should be a decent time from the Final Fantasy for May 16th. Probably now too late to do it before that. Stick in back pocket. Johnbod (talk) 22:29, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
- September 30th is the anniversary date, try for then, that way you can nominate it with points. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 14:21, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
- Oppose per above; we've had a lot of video game articles recently, and FF should be the first choice.--Chimino (talk) 16:38, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
- To clarify this is a request for a nonspecific date. There is no chance whatsoever that a passing of this article will mean it will be the TFA is less than a week meaning that there no threat to Final Fantasy.--174.95.111.89 (talk) 21:58, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
- If FF does indeed run May 16, that leaves at least a month before another video game TFA should be run. It seems a bit ridiculous that this nomination should languish in limbo for several weeks, when it can instead be saved for a more opportune time.--Chimino (talk) 02:25, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
Nonspecific date 2
Flame Robin
The Flame Robin (Petroica phoenicea) is a small passerine bird native to Australia. It is a moderately common resident of the coolest parts of south-eastern Australia, including Tasmania. It is often simply but inaccurately called the Robin Redbreast. Like many brightly coloured robins of the Petroicidae, it is sexually dimorphic. Measuring 12–14 cm (5–6 in) long, the Flame Robin has dark brown eyes and a small thin black bill. The male has a brilliant orange-red chest and throat, and a white patch on the forehead above the bill. Its upper parts are iron-grey with white bars, and its tail black with white tips. The female is a nondescript grey-brown. Its song has been described as the most musical of its genus. A territorial bird, the Flame Robin employs song and plumage displays to mark out and defend its territory. Classified by BirdLife International as Near Threatened, the species has suffered a marked decline in the past 25 years. (Full article...)- I am posting this as an experiment as Red-capped Robin got 2.2k views when mainpaged on Xmas day, the lowest mainpage score I have ever seen. Given this is very similar, I am curious to see what it gets on a non-Xmas day as a comparator. Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:43, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
- Support. Very high quality article. Educational, encyclopedic, useful to readers and editors alike. Also, SCIENCE! — Cirt (talk) 21:56, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
- Support another bird, "most musical", --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:44, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
- Last bird was April 22 (the fifth bird since January 1, since you ask). I'm happy to run this one in a little while but I don't think we need to run two birds within two or three weeks of each other, do we? Bencherlite 23:10, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
- We could have another Eagle... — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:27, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
- @Bencherlite - true, we can leave it till May 22 onwards. Not fussed just was musing about it and didn't want to forget....Casliber (talk · contribs) 09:35, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
- Support for May 23 - Cute bird! Lets have it on this day to be clear of Wagner. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 16:43, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
Nonspecific date 3
Barton Fink
Barton Fink is a 1991 American film, written, directed, and produced by the Coen brothers (pictured). Set in 1941, it stars John Turturro in the title role as a young New York City playwright who is hired to write scripts for a movie studio in Hollywood, and John Goodman as Charlie, the insurance salesman who lives next door at the run-down Hotel Earle. The Coens wrote the screenplay in three weeks while experiencing difficulty during the writing of another film, Miller's Crossing. Soon after Miller's Crossing was finished, the Coens began filming Barton Fink, which had its premiere at the Cannes Film Festival in May 1991. In a rare sweep, Barton Fink won the Palme d'Or, as well as awards for Best Director and Best Actor (Turturro). Although it was celebrated almost universally by critics and nominated for three Academy Awards, the movie grossed only $6,000,000 at the box office, two-thirds of its estimated budget. The process of writing and the culture of entertainment production are two prominent themes of Barton Fink. The world of Hollywood is contrasted with that of Broadway, and the film analyzes superficial distinctions between high culture and low culture. Other themes in the film include fascism and World War II; slavery and conditions of labor in creative industries; and how intellectuals relate to "the common man". Because of its diverse elements, Barton Fink has defied efforts at genre classification. It has been variously referred to as a film noir, a horror film, a Künstlerroman, and a buddy film. (Full article...)
2 points: featured since 2009. Last film TFA was "?" on April 1.--Chimino (talk) 02:55, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
Nonspecific date 4
"Gender Bender" is the fourteenth episode of the television series The X-Files. Premiering on the Fox network on January 21, 1994, it was written by Larry and Paul Barber, directed by Rob Bowman, and featured guest appearances by Brent Hinkley and Nicholas Lea. The show centers on FBI special agents Fox Mulder (David Duchovny) and Dana Scully (Gillian Anderson) who work on cases linked to the paranormal, called X-Files. In this episode, Mulder and Scully begin investigating a series of murders following sexual encounters. The two soon discover that a member of a religious sect living in Massachusetts may be responsible—and may not be human. The episode was inspired by producer Glen Morgan's desire for "an episode with more of a sexy edge"; however, the writers found it difficult to write a story that showed sex as scary. This difficulty led to the introduction of an Amish-like community as well. "Gender Bender" has subsequently been met with mixed critical responses, facing criticism for its abrupt deus ex machina ending. Academic analysis of the episode has placed it within a science-fiction tradition that attributes a powerful, supernatural element to physical contact with aliens. It has also been seen as reflecting anxieties about emerging gender roles in the 1990s. (Full article...)- Last television article was Russell T Davies on April 27, last episode of television was several weeks before that on April 9; so this is either at -2 or 0 points depending on how you look at that (by the time this could be slotted in, the two weeks/one month limits will pass on those). Alternatively, you could say that we've never featured an article on shapeshifting space Amish sex addicts... GRAPPLE X 16:51, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
- Even assuming that the image adds something to the article, does it add anything useful to the blurb? Bencherlite 19:17, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
- Probably not, but I shoved it in just to avoid an image being forced in that's not even used in the article (happened to my last TFA so I figured I'd be pre-emptive). Could be removed without consequence but I'd rather not see something shoehorned in as a replacement if it's not in the article. GRAPPLE X 19:23, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
- I do try and revert inappropriate images that are added into TFA blurbs after an image-free nomination at TFAR but I don't always have the energy to do so. Some editors seem to think that any image is better than none, but as the discussion below about FF shows, there are different views about whether to use images and if so what sorts.... Joy. Bencherlite 20:46, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
- Oh, I know there's different ideas going round, just it does seem that the process of adding images seems to come from wholly outside the TFA process quite a bit, which can be annoying (and I didn't mean to come across like I was directing anything at you, which I now think I might have done, so apologies if it sounded that way). If you think it's better without an image I'm happy to omit it (though maybe a hidden note to say "use from the article if you absolutely must but don't fetch something from elsewhere" might not be the worst idea for noms in the future without a good blurb image). GRAPPLE X 20:57, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
- I do try and revert inappropriate images that are added into TFA blurbs after an image-free nomination at TFAR but I don't always have the energy to do so. Some editors seem to think that any image is better than none, but as the discussion below about FF shows, there are different views about whether to use images and if so what sorts.... Joy. Bencherlite 20:46, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
- Probably not, but I shoved it in just to avoid an image being forced in that's not even used in the article (happened to my last TFA so I figured I'd be pre-emptive). Could be removed without consequence but I'd rather not see something shoehorned in as a replacement if it's not in the article. GRAPPLE X 19:23, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
Specific date nominations
May 13
Michigan State Trunkline Highway System
The State Trunkline Highway System consists of all the state highways in Michigan, including those designated as Interstate, United States, or State Trunkline highways. Maintained by the Michigan Department of Transportation, the system comprises 9,716 miles (15,636 km) of trunklines in all 83 counties of the state. Its components range in scale from 10-lane urban freeways to two-lane rural undivided highways to a non-motorized highway on Mackinac Island, where cars are forbidden. The longest highway is nearly 400 miles (640 km) long, while the shortest is about three-quarters of a mile (about 1.2 km). On May 13, 1913, the State Reward Trunk Line Highways Act was passed, creating the system. Highway numbers were first posted on signs in 1919, making Michigan the second state to do so. Michigan's first freeways were built during the 1940s. Construction on Michigan's Interstates started in the late 1950s and continued until 1992. Few additional freeways have been built since 1992, and in the early years of the 21st century, projects are underway to bypass cities with new highways. (Full article...)May 13, 2013, will mark the centennial of the creation of the system (6 points) and the last highway article appeared on February 11 (1) for 7 points. This article was just promoted minutes ago, and it's been a labor of love of sorts. It's drawn on the research I've put in for over 200 specific highway articles on the various roads that make up Michigan's highway system. NB: the blurb is slightly long at the moment, and I'm open to suggestions on how to trim it down to meet specifications. Imzadi 1979 → 18:20, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
- Support important topic and important date. --Rschen7754 18:31, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
- Support - Important centennial of highway system. Dough4872 19:20, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
- Support, nice subject and relevant time chronological selection quantification period. — Cirt (talk) 05:27, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
- Support - This is an important date for the system and a great article overall. Perfect choice of TFA on this day. TCN7JM 21:19, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
- Support, an article on an entire road network is a switch from one about a road or segment thereof. Daniel Case (talk) 03:24, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
May 16
Final Fantasy XI
Final Fantasy XI is a massively multiplayer online role-playing game (MMORPG), developed and published by Square as part of the Final Fantasy series. Designed and produced by Hiromichi Tanaka, it was released in Japan on May 16, 2002 for Sony's PlayStation 2, and for Microsoft Windows-based personal computers in November of that year. The game was the first cross-platform MMORPG and the Xbox 360's first MMORPG. The story is set in the fantasy world of Vana'diel, where player-created avatars can both compete and cooperate in a variety of objectives to develop an assortment of jobs, skills, and earn in-game item rewards. Players can also undertake an array of quests and progress through the in-game hierarchy and thus through the major plot of the game. Since its debut in 2002, five expansion packs have also been released along with six add-on scenarios. In 2006, between 200,000 and 300,000 active players logged in per day, and the game was the dominant MMORPG in Japan. Final Fantasy XI has a user base of around 500,000 subscribers, and the total number of active characters exceeds 2 million. It is the most profitable title in the Final Fantasy series. (Full article...) Final Fantasy XI is a massively multiplayer online role-playing game (MMORPG), developed and published by Square as part of the Final Fantasy series. Designed and produced by Hiromichi Tanaka, it was released in Japan on May 16, 2002 for Sony's PlayStation 2, and for Microsoft Windows-based personal computers in November of that year. The game was the first cross-platform MMORPG and the Xbox 360's first MMORPG. The story is set in the fantasy world of Vana'diel, where player-created avatars can both compete and cooperate in a variety of objectives to develop an assortment of jobs, skills, and earn in-game item rewards. Players can also undertake an array of quests and progress through the in-game hierarchy and thus through the major plot of the game. Since its debut in 2002, five expansion packs have also been released along with six add-on scenarios. In 2006, between 200,000 and 300,000 active players logged in per day, and the game was the dominant MMORPG in Japan. Final Fantasy XI has a user base of around 500,000 subscribers, and the total number of active characters exceeds 2 million. It is the most profitable title in the Final Fantasy series. (Full article...) Final Fantasy XI is a massively multiplayer online role-playing game (MMORPG), developed and published by Square as part of the Final Fantasy series. Designed and produced by Hiromichi Tanaka (pictured), it was released in Japan on May 16, 2002 for Sony's PlayStation 2, and for Microsoft Windows-based personal computers in November of that year. The game was the first cross-platform MMORPG and the Xbox 360's first MMORPG. The story is set in the fantasy world of Vana'diel, where player-created avatars can both compete and cooperate in a variety of objectives to develop an assortment of jobs, skills, and earn in-game item rewards. Players can also undertake an array of quests and progress through the in-game hierarchy and thus through the major plot of the game. Since its debut in 2002, five expansion packs have also been released along with six add-on scenarios. In 2006, between 200,000 and 300,000 active players logged in per day, and the game was the dominant MMORPG in Japan. Final Fantasy XI has a user base of around 500,000 subscribers, and the total number of active characters exceeds 2 million. It is the most profitable title in the Final Fantasy series. (Full article...)- Final Fantasy XI is the most profitable Final Fantasy game ever made, and still is being updated despite being 11 years old. I nominated it in 2008 and it has successfully kept its Featured Status for five years, the day would be the 11th anniversary of its first release, and the topic is "widely noted". Normally that would be 5 points, but God of War (April 19) will make the date slightly under a month in between video game articles. Maybe the coordinators will be generous and call it 4? In any case, I nominate and support. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 19:50, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
- Comment: The subject needs italics. MMORPG needs to be expanded before you use the acronym. Was FFXI the first cross-platform MMORPG or was it merely the Xbox 360's first cross-platform MMORPG? I was under the impression that it was the former, in which case the wording does not make that clear. Axem Titanium (talk) 20:07, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
- The article indicates that it is both the first cross platform MMORPG and the first Xbox MMORPG. I fixed the other issues.Judgesurreal777 (talk) 20:41, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
- Currently, it could be read as being the XBOX's first MMORPG, and (the XBOX's) first cross platfrom MMORPG. I'd suggest rewording to "The game was the first cross-platform MMORPG and the Xbox 360's first MMORPG." to remove the possible ambiguity. Also, on a minor point, isn't it conventionally referred to as "Microsoft Windows" rather than "Microsoft's Windows"? MChesterMC (talk) 15:58, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
- Issues fixed Judgesurreal777 (talk) 19:26, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
- Support, given MChester's rewording. Axem Titanium (talk) 17:34, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
- Support, which I meant to put in my original comment, but forgot entirely... MChesterMC (talk) 09:01, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
- Currently, it could be read as being the XBOX's first MMORPG, and (the XBOX's) first cross platfrom MMORPG. I'd suggest rewording to "The game was the first cross-platform MMORPG and the Xbox 360's first MMORPG." to remove the possible ambiguity. Also, on a minor point, isn't it conventionally referred to as "Microsoft Windows" rather than "Microsoft's Windows"? MChesterMC (talk) 15:58, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
- The article indicates that it is both the first cross platform MMORPG and the first Xbox MMORPG. I fixed the other issues.Judgesurreal777 (talk) 20:41, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
- Support, but cmon, nuthin beats Final Fantasy (video game), someone or someones should really work on gettin that one up to Featured Article quality status. :) — Cirt (talk) 23:17, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
- All in good time :) Judgesurreal777 (talk) 01:22, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
- Comment - Instead of using a picture of a face, I think deriving a free use word-mark from File:Final Fantasy XI logo.png would be more effective and fitting. File:ChocoboridersFFXI.jpg is essentially a decorative non-free image, the article would be much better served with a combat gameplay image. - hahnchen 00:52, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
- That would be cool, can anyone make it? I am not talented in that area. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 00:56, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
- A word-mark would not be that interesting to look at. The face is more attractive. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:20, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
- The face is not indicative of the subject. Logos are designed to be eye catching and are easily recognisable. - hahnchen 01:27, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
- Logos are. This logo is non-free and cannot be used. Word-marks are not attractive, at all. They are font in an image format. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:19, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
- "Word-marks are not attractive, at all"? Because, what, typography is not attractive at all? What complete bullshit. File:Final Fantasy wordmark.svg would be a better lead image, distinctive, recognisable, high contrast. - hahnchen 13:23, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
- So having opinions which are not inline with yours is "ridiculous"? Well, I am sorry to have offended your delicate senses. The fact remains that File:Final Fantasy wordmark.svg and similar files are plain black text, block letters on a clear or white background, which offer the general reader little more than typing Final Fantasy XI would. Not to mention the word mark on its own is not recognizable as part of the game; the whole logo is, and that's not free. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:33, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
- It is ridiculous, hence the continuing existence of word marks. How is a man's face remotely "recognizable as part of the game"? Even those who have played the game, or are familiar with the franchise would not recognise that picture. They would recognise File:Final Fantasy wordmark.svg - it turns out that typing plain black text, block letters on a clear or white background - does offer something. - hahnchen 14:02, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
- It appears your definition of ridiculous and the dictionary's is quite different. There are times when wordmarks might be useful (if Coca-Cola were ever to reach FA status, for example), but having a wordmark instead of a picture of someone related to the subject and worth mentioning in the blurb (such as a director, designer, etc.) would be, in my opinion, ridiculous. Try pushing a wordmark cropped from a poster for Ruma Maida, or Jaws; you'll find piles of opposes. If you feel strongly against having the photograph of the developer, this can be run without an image at all.
- As for your patently POINTY that a man's face is not "recognizable as part of the game", which appears to have been a dig at my opinion on the other proposal below, you are comparing apples and oranges. The image below was created to resemble an early FF logo (but is not actually it, and thus has no EV), while a developer is certainly related to the game in question and worth an image. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:15, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
- You'd get piles of opposes if you ran a Google TFA with pictures of Larry/Eric/Sergei. And if you're going to pick on Films, try Star Wars. As for the WP:POINTY part, that was the part I removed. - hahnchen 14:37, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
- Google has a fairly widely recognised wordmark (which doubles as its logo), like Coca Cola; Star Wars too, and it's wordmark is essentially the series' logo as a whole. FFXI? Not so much, and the wordmark suggested would be misrepresentation of the actual logo. Hence the comparison to Jaws, for which the wordmark itself is not widely recognised. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:44, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
- You'd get piles of opposes if you ran a Google TFA with pictures of Larry/Eric/Sergei. And if you're going to pick on Films, try Star Wars. As for the WP:POINTY part, that was the part I removed. - hahnchen 14:37, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
- It is ridiculous, hence the continuing existence of word marks. How is a man's face remotely "recognizable as part of the game"? Even those who have played the game, or are familiar with the franchise would not recognise that picture. They would recognise File:Final Fantasy wordmark.svg - it turns out that typing plain black text, block letters on a clear or white background - does offer something. - hahnchen 14:02, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
- So having opinions which are not inline with yours is "ridiculous"? Well, I am sorry to have offended your delicate senses. The fact remains that File:Final Fantasy wordmark.svg and similar files are plain black text, block letters on a clear or white background, which offer the general reader little more than typing Final Fantasy XI would. Not to mention the word mark on its own is not recognizable as part of the game; the whole logo is, and that's not free. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:33, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
- "Word-marks are not attractive, at all"? Because, what, typography is not attractive at all? What complete bullshit. File:Final Fantasy wordmark.svg would be a better lead image, distinctive, recognisable, high contrast. - hahnchen 13:23, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
- Logos are. This logo is non-free and cannot be used. Word-marks are not attractive, at all. They are font in an image format. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:19, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
- The face is not indicative of the subject. Logos are designed to be eye catching and are easily recognisable. - hahnchen 01:27, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
- A word-mark would not be that interesting to look at. The face is more attractive. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:20, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
- Comment: For an image, how about something simple and iconic like for example, File:Sword and crystal.png? — Cirt (talk) 04:30, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
- That's not an actual image used by the games, and as such there is no EV. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:33, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
- Support with photograph or no image, oppose if there's a wordmark. Call it "toy throwing" if you want, but it is patently clear to me that we're not going to draw readers by pushing plain text as an image when other possibilities are available. There's a reason why DYK, OTD, and ITN (almost) never use wordmarks: they aren't attractive. Wordmarks at FP? Ha! I'll eat my blangkon when that happens. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:15, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
- Comment - Perhaps we could just have no image, and let the text speak for itself. Having an image is great, but as we all know, it's very hard to find free use images of video games. So as nominator I would support no image to keep things simple and peaceful :) Judgesurreal777 (talk) 23:27, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
- I don't mind having no image. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:31, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
- Supporting "no image", yet opposing a wordmark is incredibly WP:POINTY. Having nothing is more eye catching that the recognisable series logo? I'm not pandering to this. No image is the worst option. - hahnchen 11:55, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
- And here you go again with your idea that the wordmark = the logo. It doesn't, which is why the non-free logo is in the infobox and not the wordmark. The logo is recognisable. The wordmark isn't. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:15, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
- This is not true at all. It's the word-mark which is significantly more recognisable, due to its consistent use throughout the Final Fantasy series. It is the sole series logo. - hahnchen 16:03, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
- And here you go again with your idea that the wordmark = the logo. It doesn't, which is why the non-free logo is in the infobox and not the wordmark. The logo is recognisable. The wordmark isn't. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:15, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
- Supporting "no image", yet opposing a wordmark is incredibly WP:POINTY. Having nothing is more eye catching that the recognisable series logo? I'm not pandering to this. No image is the worst option. - hahnchen 11:55, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
- I don't mind having no image. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:31, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
Comment: There's an inconsistency in the date format that needs to be sorted, with four different date formats in the references: 2007-08-01, 05/10/12, January 1, 2006 and 28 January 2013 all showing up. - SchroCat (talk) 13:24, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
- Crisco 1492 picked up on the dates. FNs 36, 37 and 78 also need to be formatted properly. - SchroCat (talk) 16:20, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
- Ok those are taken care of too. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 20:04, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
- Which of the two above do you really think is more eyecatching? - hahnchen 16:12, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
- Rather, three. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:51, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
- Support wordmark and no image, in that order; I do hope that we move away from this tendency to use faces which have seemingly little connection to the topic at hand, just to ensure that the blurb has an image. Ed 06:20, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
- Support image - I like the idea of showing the folks that make these games - the creative people. Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:50, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
May 22
Richard Wagner
Richard Wagner (1813 – 1883) was a German composer, theatre director, polemicist, and conductor primarily known for his operas. His compositions, particularly those of his later period, are notable for their complex textures, rich harmonies and orchestration, and the elaborate use of leitmotifs—musical phrases associated with individual characters, places, ideas or plot elements. These innovations greatly influenced the development of classical music; his Tristan und Isolde is sometimes described as marking the start of modern music. Wagner revolutionised opera through his concept of synthesising the poetic, visual, musical and dramatic arts. He first realised these ideas in his four-opera cycle The Ring of the Nibelung. He had his own opera house built at Bayreuth, containing many novel design features, where his most important stage works continue to be performed in an annual festival run by his descendants. Until his final years, Wagner's life was characterised by political exile, turbulent love affairs, poverty and repeated flight from his creditors. Wagner's controversial writings on music, drama and politics have attracted extensive comment in recent decades, especially where they express antisemitic sentiments. The effect of his ideas can be traced in many of the arts throughout the 20th century; their influence spread beyond composition into conducting, philosophy, literature, the visual arts and theatre. (Full article...)- 11 points, I think: Vital article (4), bicentenary of his birth on 22 May (6), 'requestor (me) is a significant contributor to the article, and has not previously had an article appear as Today's featured article'. Wagner's bicentenary is being celebrated round the world, this would be a fitting contribution by Misplaced Pages. Thanks.Smerus (talk) 14:12, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
- Support no question.--Chimino (talk) 15:15, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
- Support. Important composer, major anniversary. Definitely. Espresso Addict (talk) 20:17, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
- Support obvious choice for mainpage. Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:03, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
- Comments: all for him, of course, see the FA review. In the blurb, "Wagner transformed operatic thought through his concept of synthesising the poetic, visual, musical and dramatic arts." seems strong stuff for the uninitiated reader, - what is "operatic thought" supposed to mean? I suggest that "Bayreuth" gets mentioned, not only pipe-linked. I wonder we should end on "antisemitic sentiments", - it should be mentioned, but is it the last word on him? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:46, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
- I tried here before, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:49, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
- Agree with Gerda; the last two sentences could be swapped. Espresso Addict (talk) 01:33, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
- OK I have swapped as you suggest.--Smerus (talk) 14:12, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
- Support, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:22, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
- OK I have swapped as you suggest.--Smerus (talk) 14:12, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
- Agree with Gerda; the last two sentences could be swapped. Espresso Addict (talk) 01:33, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
- I tried here before, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:49, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
- Support Ties Nixon at 11.--Wehwalt (talk) 11:25, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
- Support, certainly. Per Gerda's comment above, I think "...in the annual Bayreuth Festival" would be a reasonable link; even an uncultured oaf like myself has heard of it by name ;-) Andrew Gray (talk) 12:07, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
- I agree about Bayreuth, and will edit accordingly. The other points raised by Gerda were thrashed through in the FA review and I don't see the mileage in starting over on them.--Smerus (talk) 12:51, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
- The article is one thing, the blurb for the Main page, for unprepared people, another. I don't think "operatic thought" is a good term for them. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:12, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
- "operetic thought" is an inaccurate term actually, and is meaningless. What is meant is that Wagner changed how opera was viewed, seen or enjoyed. Opera is a performing art and is viewed rather than an intellectual pursuit that is thought about, and the phrase has to say that. Further the point being made is that Wagner marked a change in how opera was viewed and enjoyed making it more approachable to more people. That has to be clearly articulated in the article in clear language that appropriately references a performing art.(olive (talk) 16:31, 25 April 2013 (UTC))
- Interesting that it is both 'meaningless', and yet all the same the 'point being made' is clear! OK, I propose (as above) 'enriched the potential of opera', and have edited the article similarly.--Smerus (talk) 17:07, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
- Support TFA, but for the rewording, how about just simply "transformed opera" or "modernized opera" or "revolutionized opera" -- something simple and direct, "enriched the potential of opera...?" Hmm, that's a dependent clause, not answering the "for what" question. Montanabw 17:16, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
- I don't think 'transformed' will quite do, since not everyone took up his ideas - 'modernized', yes, but didn't all major opera composers do that in their day and in their way (Gluck, Mozart, Meyerbeer even, ......). 'Revolutionized' could be good, as it carries the idea that he really shook things up... what do others think?--Smerus (talk) 17:52, 25 April 2013 (UTC)think....
I believe the text is referring both to a change in the approachability to opera and to the critical thought on opera. If one word works for both, fine. I'm supposed to be on a self enforced break so I'll leave you all to it. (olive (talk) 18:31, 25 April 2013 (UTC))
- Er....I wrote the text; and I certainly had in mind critical thought on opera, but also certainly not 'approachability'. Whilst Wagner himself thought that people en masse would rush to lap up his ideas, this proved far from the case; in fact ironically his biggest fans were exactly the elite whom, when he evolved his ideas in his socialist phase, he despised. But as there's no snappy way of getting all that into a couple of words, I still favour 'revolutionized'.........and will put that in the paragraph above, save that the article uses throughout the '...ised' spelling of such words. --Smerus (talk) 19:23, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
- Support, this high quality vital article. — Cirt (talk) 17:54, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
- Support. - Nice work on an extemely important article. GabeMc 00:06, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
- thanks,Gabe!--Smerus (talk) 16:32, 27 April 2013 (UTC)--Smerus (talk) 16:32, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
- Support as a no-brainer, quite honestly. Prioryman (talk) 13:56, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
May 24
Thescelosaurus
Thescelosaurus is a genus of small ornithopod dinosaur known from Upper Cretaceous rocks of western North America. It belonged to the last dinosaurian fauna of North America before the Cretaceous–Paleogene extinction event at approximately 66 million years ago, living alongside dinosaurs such as Tyrannosaurus and Triceratops. This common genus was described from a specimen discovered in 1891, but not unpacked and studied until the 1910s. These circumstances suggested the names of the genus and type species T. neglectus, which roughly translate to "godlike, wondrous, or marvelous neglected lizard". Thescelosaurus is best known from several partial skeletons representing three species: T. neglectus, T, assiniboiensis, and T. garbanii. One specimen was initially thought to include a preserved heart, but later study found the object is probably a concretion. Thescelosaurus was a bipedal animal with a relatively long pointed skull and robust limbs. Typical individuals measured on the order of 2.5 to 4.0 metres (8.2 to 13.1 ft) long. It was probably primarily herbivorous and may have preferred to live near streams. (Full article...)- I propose Thescelosaurus for this date because it will be the centennial of its official description (May 24, 1913) (see a copy of the original article here). The article was promoted in 2007, and the last dinosaur article to be TFA was Psittacosaurus on January 7. This should give Thescelosaurus 9 points: 6 for the centennial, 2 for the promotion date, and 1 for length of time since the previous dinosaur. We have a number of other images; I just chose this one because it is the holotype, which I felt was most appropriate. J. Spencer (talk) 00:48, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
- Support. - another dinosaur is good....Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:38, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
- Support. Educational, encyclopedic, great date, high quality page. Also, SCIENCE! — Cirt (talk) 02:16, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
- Support. Interesting article that seems in reasonable shape considering how long ago it was featured. The blurb ought perhaps to match the article in being slightly less definitive over the 'heart'. Also, the image is a little hard to make out with the uneven lighting; perhaps one of the other skeletons would be clearer? Espresso Addict (talk) 03:51, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
- I tweaked that line; with that and a couple of formatting fixes, it might on the long side. J. Spencer (talk) 15:07, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
- Support per the above, but agree that a better pic would be highly desirable.--Smerus (talk) 14:08, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
- Support, but agree wholeheartedly about the pic. I've WP:BOLDly changed it to a clearer one; while I appreciate the holotype has historical interest, it simply isn't clear enough to be a good choice for a Main Page image. Prioryman (talk) 13:54, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
- agree that a pic of a dinosaur like this is a lot more engaging than the bones. Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:35, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
- Support - Love dinosaurs, this would be great to have on the main page, need more of them! Judgesurreal777 (talk) 16:36, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
May 25
May Revolution
The May Revolution was a week-long series of events that took place from May 18 to 25, 1810, in Buenos Aires, capital of the Viceroyalty of the Río de la Plata. The May Revolution was a direct reaction to Spain's Peninsular War. In 1808, King Ferdinand VII of Spain abdicated in favor of Napoleon, who granted the throne to his brother, Joseph Bonaparte. Viceroy Cisneros tried to maintain the political status quo, but a group of criollo lawyers and military officials organized an open cabildo on May 22 to decide the future of the Viceroyalty. Delegates denied recognition to the Council of Regency in Spain and established a junta to govern in place of Cisneros, since the government that had appointed him Viceroy no longer existed. To maintain a sense of continuity, Cisneros was initially appointed president of the Junta. This caused popular unrest, so he resigned under pressure on May 25. The newly formed government, the Primera Junta, included only representatives from Buenos Aires and invited other cities of the Viceroyalty to send delegates. This resulted in the outbreak of war between the regions that accepted the outcome of the events at Buenos Aires and those that did not. (Full article...)1 point for date relevant to article topic, 2 points for widely covered topic, 1 point for my contribution history, and 2 points for lack of similar articles in the last six months. The image shown here is a brighter version of the same portrait used as lead image, it's smaller but better suited for a caption-sized image (the other photo may be too dark in low resolution) Cambalachero (talk) 22:50, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
- Support: interesting article and underrepresented country.--Chimino (talk) 14:11, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
- If this runs on 18th May, then Heinrich Bär (below) can have a clear run on 25th May. Thoughts? Bencherlite 01:04, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
- The associated national day in Argentina is in May 25. If a nazi is more important than the birth of a nation for being a centennial of his birth, then I would prefer to decline this request and save it for the next year. Cambalachero (talk) 01:16, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
- Let's see what people think is the best option here. Bencherlite 15:45, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
- The associated national day in Argentina is in May 25. If a nazi is more important than the birth of a nation for being a centennial of his birth, then I would prefer to decline this request and save it for the next year. Cambalachero (talk) 01:16, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
Heinrich Bär (Alternative)
Heinrich Bär (1913–57) was a German Luftwaffe flying ace in World War II. He flew more than 1,000 combat missions, and fought in all major German theatres of the war, including the Western, Eastern and Mediterranean fronts. He was shot down on 18 occasions and was credited with 220 aerial victories, around 16 of which were in the Messerschmitt Me 262, an early jet fighter. Bär joined the Reichswehr in 1934 and transferred to the Luftwaffe in 1935. Serving first as a mechanic, then as a pilot on transport aircraft, he was informally trained as a fighter pilot. He claimed his first aerial victory in September 1939 on the French border. By the end of the Battle of Britain, his tally of victories was 17. Transferred to the Eastern front to participate in Operation Barbarossa, he quickly accumulated further kills, earning the Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross with Oak Leaves and Swords for 90 aerial victories in February 1942. Hermann Göring's personal dislike of Bär, coupled with Bär's insubordinate character and lack of military discipline, deprived him of higher awards. After the war, Bär continued as an aviator, and was killed in a flying accident near Braunschweig. (Full article...)My first TFA nomination (and I did ask for permission first). All I know from the criteria is that it scores 6 points for being born 100 years ago, and 2 points for the article being promoted over 2 years ago. Not sure if it fits any other criteria. Minima© (talk) 11:59, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
- Blurb tweaked into house style. Last aviator was Charles Eaton (RAAF officer) (April 29); last WWII article was Operation Teardrop (May 8) so probably a modest points deduction, but nothing fatal to its chances, I wouldn't think. Bencherlite 01:05, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks Bencherlite for finding out the other recent TFAs. I hope its only two points that get deducted though, as it is (at its time) more than two weeks but within a month since the last similar article. I'll update the table. Minima© (talk) 19:40, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
- Support for May 26 - The point totals are similar, and the article above has more significence for the date than this one. If its within a day, it should still be satisfactory. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 16:39, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
May 29
The Rite of Spring
1 The Rite of Spring is a ballet and orchestral concert work by the Russian composer Igor Stravinsky. It was written for the 1913 Paris season of Sergei Diaghilev's Ballets Russes company, with choreography by Vaslav Nijinsky and stage designs and costumes by Nicholas Roerich. The ballet caused a near-riot in the audience when first performed, on 29 May 1913 at the Théâtre des Champs-Élysées in Paris, but rapidly achieved success as a concert piece and later became recognised as one of the most influential musical works of the 20th century. The scenario, developed by Roerich from Stravinsky's outline idea, is the celebration of spring by various primitive rituals, at the end of which a sacrificial victim dances herself to death. After its explosive premiere the ballet was unperformed until the 1920s, when Léonide Massine's rechoreographed version was the first of many innovative productions directed by the world's leading ballet-masters. In the 1980s, Nijinsky's original choreography was reconstructed by the Joffrey Ballet in Los Angeles. Providing "endless stimulation for performers and listeners" alike, The Rite is among the most recorded works in the classical repertoire. (Full article...)My first TFA nomination (I didn't ask permission --- because I couldn't figure out how to do that; please help me out here). I thought I saw this article nominated for this date (the last time I looked), and was surprised to see it absent; I didn't read anything on the history page about this. Seems like a natural for this date: 100-year anniversary, significant work, etc. Musanim (talk) 20:27, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
- Permission to nominate is not required, but you ought to let the principal author and FAC nominator (Brianboulton) know that you've nominated it; I know he was planning to in due course. I've removed the image you used since it's non-free and can't be used on the main page, or indeed here. Incidentally, the blurb is only 701 characters including spaces, when the target is 1,200 so it needs some expansion. Bencherlite 20:44, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
- Support: I had intended to nominate this week, so no harm done. I have expanded the blurb and added an acceptable free image. Brianboulton (talk) 22:03, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
- Support for obvious reasons.--Chimino (talk) 22:43, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
- Support, high quality article about a ballet; educational and encyclopedic. — Cirt (talk) 23:57, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
- Support gotta be! Yes, it's a week after Wagner but both are very significant anniversaries. Johnbod (talk) 00:01, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
- Support It may be a week after Wagner but let's sacrifice the conventions...--Smerus (talk) 07:12, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
- Comments: I supported it as FA, and have no doubt that it should appear that day, even if it was one day after some composer. I wonder if the pic might be cropped, this is pale and shows no excitement. - "The scenario, developed by Roerich from Stravinsky's outline idea, is the celebration of spring by various primitive rituals, following which a sacrificial victim dances herself to death." - isn't dancing to death part of the rituals? - That the music is influential is said twice, but not what made it so. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:45, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
- The image was far too small; I have enlarged it. I would rather not crop it – it shows Stravinsky's famous "knock-kneed Lolitas". I have made a few changes to the text, per Gerda; but a TFA blurb is not really the place to explain what made the music influential. Brianboulton (talk) 14:07, 9 May 2013 (UTC)