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| :: Dear Sitush, I would be always willing to help. I just went thru Jaiprakash Narayan article and one link says the village Sitab Diara in Saran. Now, if he was born in 1902 as said earlier - Saran was part of ]. In any case pl. provide me the diffs. and I will look into it tomorrow - when I log in again - for today I am retiring. - Good Night and Thanks. - ] (]) 15:03, 13 June 2013 (UTC) | :: Dear Sitush, I would be always willing to help. I just went thru Jaiprakash Narayan article and one link says the village Sitab Diara in Saran. Now, if he was born in 1902 as said earlier - Saran was part of ]. In any case pl. provide me the diffs. and I will look into it tomorrow - when I log in again - for today I am retiring. - Good Night and Thanks. - ] (]) 15:03, 13 June 2013 (UTC) | ||
| ::: Sitush, you suspicion was right the Sitab Diara in Ballia and Sitab Diara in Saran are one and same place. Although online google books are confusing and there a reason for it as explained under :- | |||
| Please go thru the following news link which says The villagers said J. P.' s father had left Sitab Diara soon after J. P.' s birth due to an outbreak of plague. The family settled down at the place now known as J. P. Nagar. Old timers recalled that both the places were in Bihar until the Trivedi Commission report split the flood- ravaged diara ( riverine belt) into two parts in the early 60s. and [http://www.telegraphindia.com/1110925/jsp/bihar/story_14550258.jsp Lanes narrow, plans big for Advani yatra launch | |||
| - Nitish will flag off campaign from nondescript village in Saran district where JP was born]. which also confirms same - ''According to the residents, JP’s father Harsudayal moved his family to Baburbani — a nearby tola in the same village that was in UP — only five days after JP’s birth because of an epidemic afflicting Lalatola. Harsudayal got a house built at Baburbani where the family had parts of its landed property.''. | |||
| Since from above we references we can say Sitab Diara was not split till 1960 and whole of it was part of Saran, Bihar. Now, since in 1902 Saran was part of Bengal Presidency as Bihar did not come into existence. | |||
| At present the name of Sitab Diara of Ballia has been changed to Jayprakash Nagar - see link - ''It is Baburbani that socialist stalwart and former Prime Minister Chandrashekhar developed into Jaiprakash Nagar and set up JP memorial trust, preserving Loknayak’s ancestral house as a memorial and constructing guest house for social activists. '' | |||
| Whereas the Sitab Diara in Saran, Bihar the name of village is still Sitab Diara. - where also there is a trust maintaining his ancestral house - ''The Trust looking after the J. P. memorial at Sitab Diara, however, feels that things are beginning to change under the Nitish Kumar government. "Since Nitish ji 's visit in February 2010, development activities have taken place. The state government has allocated ` 3.75 crore to the village'' | |||
| So considering the historical view, we can say Jayaprakash Narayan was born in village Sitab Diara, District Saran of Bengal Presidency on .......1902. | |||
| Thanks - ] (]) 04:46, 14 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
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Geog helpYou clearly know your way around the old provinces etc, per our recent messages at WT:INB. I've now recalled the article that I was referring to there and wonder if you can assist in this thread. I can provide diffs for the various claims that have been made. Thanks. - Sitush (talk) 11:22, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
Please go thru the following news link For Loknayak Jayaprakash Narayan's birthplace, L K Advani's campaign just another yatra which says The villagers said J. P.' s father had left Sitab Diara soon after J. P.' s birth due to an outbreak of plague. The family settled down at the place now known as J. P. Nagar. Old timers recalled that both the places were in Bihar until the Trivedi Commission report split the flood- ravaged diara ( riverine belt) into two parts in the early 60s. and [http://www.telegraphindia.com/1110925/jsp/bihar/story_14550258.jsp Lanes narrow, plans big for Advani yatra launch - Nitish will flag off campaign from nondescript village in Saran district where JP was born]. which also confirms same - According to the residents, JP’s father Harsudayal moved his family to Baburbani — a nearby tola in the same village that was in UP — only five days after JP’s birth because of an epidemic afflicting Lalatola. Harsudayal got a house built at Baburbani where the family had parts of its landed property.. Since from above we references we can say Sitab Diara was not split till 1960 and whole of it was part of Saran, Bihar. Now, since in 1902 Saran was part of Bengal Presidency as Bihar did not come into existence. At present the name of Sitab Diara of Ballia has been changed to Jayprakash Nagar - see link - It is Baburbani that socialist stalwart and former Prime Minister Chandrashekhar developed into Jaiprakash Nagar and set up JP memorial trust, preserving Loknayak’s ancestral house as a memorial and constructing guest house for social activists. Whereas the Sitab Diara in Saran, Bihar the name of village is still Sitab Diara. - where also there is a trust maintaining his ancestral house - The Trust looking after the J. P. memorial at Sitab Diara, however, feels that things are beginning to change under the Nitish Kumar government. "Since Nitish ji 's visit in February 2010, development activities have taken place. The state government has allocated ` 3.75 crore to the village So considering the historical view, we can say Jayaprakash Narayan was born in village Sitab Diara, District Saran of Bengal Presidency on .......1902. Thanks - Jethwarp (talk) 04:46, 14 June 2013 (UTC) |
