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This rhetoric is unhealthy! Anyway, I have a request - could you please come back and help me proof-read this ever-controversial ]? Sometimes it is good just to edit/read articles :). ] 22:37, 29 May 2006 (UTC) | This rhetoric is unhealthy! Anyway, I have a request - could you please come back and help me proof-read this ever-controversial ]? Sometimes it is good just to edit/read articles :). ] 22:37, 29 May 2006 (UTC) | ||
:I really don't think SlimVirgin is going away. She seems like a good editor and from my interactions I have no complaints. I truely believe that she is only bluffing, and its a bit of an emotional outburst that is a rather rash decision to leave. I think as soon as she cools down she will be back. This threat of leaving is a well known phenonmenon and it has served a purpose to make her protest known in the strongest terms, and help to get what she wants in the conflict she is having with other admins. I think this is a classic example of this: http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?GoodBye So, she will be back after a break. Just wait and see.] 05:56, 31 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
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Omura Entry Efforts AppreciationMy appreciation for your efforts and good offices in re this. The entry seems to me fine, indeed, at this point. For my part, many thanks. Fucyfre 20:04, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
Personal attacksIt's hard not to when Will Beback harrasses me and I make a sincere effort to resolve our problems and he keeps ignoring me while trying to get me banned. He is committing slander and he ignores all of the positive edits I make. He cherry picks my edits and takes them out of context to make me look bad without even letting me defend myself. If that is how you want to operate wikipedia go ahead but it's not fair. I would be happy to do whatever is necessary to resolve this if you will let me. Jerry Jones 17:44, 23 May 2006 (UTC) 3RRI just made my 3rd and last revert on Template:WPArticle, in view of your warning you might want to consider that you yourself have already made 3 reverts now beforehand. --Col. Hauler 13:18, 23 May 2006 (UTC) SV, I think the explicated examples of personal attack should remain. If you still wish to remove it I ask you discuss it with me first on the Talk page there. That portion really says nothing new. It merely gives explicit examples in line with sub-heading/bullet there. We live in a dumbed-down society, and peole need cold, stark examples. --Diligens 13:35, 23 May 2006 (UTC) Unexplained revertI noticed that you reverted some text I posted to WP:3RR , but I don't see any place where a reason was stated. The text did not constitute vandalism, so a reason would normally be given. I think it's entirely fair to ask you why you did this. Al 15:58, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
Another unexplained revertWhy do you insist on removing factual and supported information from the Robin Webb article without discussing it? --SpinyNorman 20:00, 23 May 2006 (UTC) Your BAYT workThank you for the good work. Crum375 21:09, 23 May 2006 (UTC) On the Jews and Their LiesSlim, I just got through proposing a move for this page when I saw that you were the one who performed it. Is there something I'm missing here? There doesn't appear to be any reason to disambiguate the title, and even if some other work were to exist, it would be substantially less notable and probably derivitive. savidan 22:06, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
ThanksThanks for cleaning up my archiving bobble on Talk:Juan Cole. I would have gotten there eventually, but it was nice to have help. Also, thanks for your clear and very readable comments on the policies and appropriate behavior. --William Pietri 08:02, 24 May 2006 (UTC) I would like to emphasise some of my closest friends are Jews, most of them Sephards. But I'm aware most people share the Ashkenazi point of view. Foreigner 09:25, 24 May 2006 (UTC) CorbinSimpson's Request for AdminshipThanks for voting in my request for administrator rights, even though it failed (13/30/4). Sadly, work has forced me to respond to you all using a substituted message rather than a personalized response. Anyway, I just wanted to let you know that administrators, to me, should be chosen and approved by the community, and I will continue working to become a better editor and Wikipedian. No matter what the alignment of your vote was, I will take your comments seriously and use them to improve myself. If you wish to discuss your comments personally with me, I would be more than glad to talk about things since the RfA is now over; just leave your concern on my talk page and we will sort things out. Thanks again for voting, and happy editing! - CorbinMay 20 AFDsI was closing some May 20 AFDs and came across a group of them you speedy kept, despite some of them having consensus to delete at the time of speedy keeping (Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Federation of Zionist Youth for one; the others were mainly no consensus). Could I inquire why? And, by the way, one you closed as speedy keep is currently up for a 2nd AFD (I assume DRV should have been undertaken, or maybe it was and sent to AFD again, I don't know). Cheers, NSLE (T+C) at 04:51 UTC (2006-05-25)
Oh, no.... not againHello. Colonel Marksman here. I'm here to ask from an Admin. about NPOV and POV. (Sigh, I wonder how many times you answered these questions!) You see... *Blaw, blaw, blaw,* and then because... *babble, babble, babble*.... please understand that... *yawn*.... for my conclusion for... *tsk, tsk.* thank you for your time. -- (Replies I'm getting) Well kid, just go #### yourself ok? You have no clue what you're talking about. (Continues fighting) :( Just make it clear to me Misplaced Pages's outlook on the differences on POV vs. opinion (what's the difference?). As someone explained it, "Do you want to say the glass is half full, or half empty?" But something else didn't make sense to me. Why not just state the facts? I'm yet to come across an encylopedia that does any more than that. Also, is anything ever actually "implied" in any Misplaced Pages policy? I guess, for everything I'm trying to say in a nutshell. I'm not asking you to fight my battles, and I'm not asking you questions because I'm a child in need of an adult (I'm not even asking you to say anything in the discussion). I'm asking because I'm concerned and all anyone around me does is the above example. It concerns me that NPOV is constituted as simply "balancing the POVs". (E.g. So-and-so says the glass is half full, but so-and-so says the glass is half empty... why not just say, "The glass is 50% filled with liquid" and avoid everything?) Something tells me Misplaced Pages tried that once and it didn't work. (Only stating the facts.) Colonel Marksman 17:01, 25 May 2006 (UTC) Put briefly, it's because people don't agree on what the facts are.
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Can we bring the discussion on the village pump to an end?Hi Slimvirgin, can I request that you help me put an end to the argument about Arniep on the village pump? I do not think anything is gained from further debate. I have told Arniep, in my capacity as an admin, that his assumptions/generalizations are not acceptable whether he believes there ok or not. I would like to request, strongly, that the argument not continue. -- SCZenz 19:23, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
AquirataJust to be clear, User:Aquirata (who has indeed enormously gotten under my skin) has not once at this pointedited the Wiki space. He is good faith near as I can tell--talkitive and verbose, but good faith. Did want to make that clear given that you brought up his editing experience. He may be tying up NPOV talk at the present but there's nothing that says he can't. And it's not as if NPOV doesn't need a tweak or twenty... Marskell 22:13, 25 May 2006 (UTC) Philip SandiferI deleted the article once; please see Jayjg's page for my explanation. Demi /C 22:17, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
Infobox IdeaHi Slim, I'm testing out an idea. One thing struck me. We have many long and extremely good articles. But many readers just come to the site to glance at articles and won't read the full text. I'm testing out the idea of adding in a summary box, called an infobox synopsis, containing a two or three line basic summary, in articles, to see if they work. For example:
I've placed it on a handful of articles as a test, including Bertie Ahern. Any opinion? FearÉIREANN\ 00:42, 26 May 2006 (UTC) juan colei"ve copied some discussion for your interest Some pages on controversial subjects, like Talk:Evolution, explicitly send people elsewhere to discuss the topic rather than the article, perhaps that's a good idea here. Personally, I'm staying out of editing the article itself; I've just dropped by to put out enough of the flames that this article gets unlocked and editing proceeds as normal. I do agree that it seems like there is a consensus on Sandbox/1, so perhaps a couple of the regular participants should ask an admin to unlock the pages. --William Pietri 23:38, 25 May 2006 (UTC) Okay, maybe we should discuss the topic elsewhere. As for the apparent consensus on sandbox/1, I really don't know how to ask an admin to change the damn page finally. It's like we're all sitting at the dinner table looking at each other, waiting for someone to start eating. Greg Kuperberg 23:44, 25 May 2006 (UTC) It seems the discussion went off topic in this section. I unprotected Juan Cole/sandbox/1. ←Humus sapiens ну? 23:49, 25 May 2006 (UTC) Great, thanks. But what I meant by "the damn page" was not sandbox/1, but the actual Juan Cole page, the one that was locked weeks ago. Almost everyone here agrees that sandbox/1 should or could replace it, but we plebes cannot do it. Greg Kuperberg 23:57, 25 May 2006 (UTC) I thought William was an administrator but if he's not and if Humus is not willing to take the action why not put a request on SlimV's talk page to pull down what's there for the Juan Article and put up Sandbox1 take CAre!--Will314159 00:50, 26 May 2006 (UTC) So what's the deal? It appears there was consensus to replace the protected page with the stripped down sandbox page but keep it protected. That hasn't happened yet. It's also not clear what sandbox page new additions should be made to. Can anyone clarify whether we are moving forward here or not? Thanks.--csloat 22:33, 25 May 2006 (UTC) Take Care!--Will314159 00:56, 26 May 2006 (UTC) blp/defamation templatesSV, I noticed you were adding template:blp to talk pages and I know you've been involved with developing that protocol, so I'm wondering if you can help me. I'd like to find a template I can use to put on user talk pages to warn against placing defamatory material in articles. However template:defwarn is so strongly-worded that I'm reluctant to use it in many cases. I'm thinking there should be a message that is shorter and less dramatic for instances which are not serious, such as kids who may not even realize that a "💕" does not mean they can use it to call their teacher "fatso". Essentially a nice note saying that real people have real feelings, that we only want verifiable information, and that writing false derogatory things about living people can have consequences. If there isn't usch a template, can we write one? Cheers, -Will Beback 08:50, 26 May 2006 (UTC) Image Tagging for Image:Hizb1.jpgThanks for uploading Image:Hizb1.jpg. The image has been identified as not specifying the source and creator of the image, which is required by Misplaced Pages's policy on images. If you don't indicate the source and creator of the image on the image's description page, it may be deleted some time in the next seven days. If you have uploaded other images, please verify that you have provided source information for them as well. For more information on using images, see the following pages: This is an automated notice by OrphanBot. For assistance on the image use policy, see Misplaced Pages:Media copyright questions. 11:20, 26 May 2006 (UTC) Appeal of Saladin1970 to ArbcomSaladin has requested to appeal his indefinite block to Arbcom. I have entered his plea on his behalf at Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration (making no judgement as to its legitimacy) and have named you as a party in the request. --Sam Blanning 13:33, 26 May 2006 (UTC) Partnership minyan discussionsHi Slim: You may be interested in the comments and discussion at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Judaism#Self-promotion concerning the Partnership minyan article, and the edits by User:Shirahadasha, for example, User:TShilo12 reports below, Best wishes, IZAK 13:56, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
Hello, would appreciate your commenting here. Complete discussion (so far) is below. My concern is that the basic thrust -- I've done nothing but links to Shira Hadasha, it's one minor minyan and doesn't deserve an article, I've somehow done something sneaky -- isn't factually true, and there seems to be much POV gnashing of teeth about the evils of feminism etc. --Shirahadasha 19:52, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
--Shirahadasha 16:35, 28 May 2006 (UTC) For your work
HelloThis template must be substituted. Replace {{Template for discussion ...}} with {{subst:Template for discussion ...}}. Dakota ~ has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile to others by adding {{subst:smile}}, {{subst:smile2}} or {{subst:smile3}} to their talk pages. Happy editing! Jack Hensley videosWhy did you remove the Jack Hensley videos? If the links no longer worked, that's okay. But if it is because you are personally offended by the content, than it's not okay and they must be placed back. The videos are technically primary sources and historical evidence. WhisperToMe 03:55, 27 May 2006 (UTC) Jimmy WalesSlimVirgin, you might want to read the secion above the ones that you added, I am in a discussion there already with the person who insists to keep it in. -- Kim van der Linde 17:50, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
Bernard LewisWilson College and the Polytechnic may be some pre-university schools, which may even no longer exist, but nobody knows that for sure, except perhaps Mr. Lewis himself. For now I've removed any references to them so as not to mislead the readers. Pecher 19:04, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
SmilesI am glad you liked the smiley --Dakota ~ 00:00, 28 May 2006 (UTC) Request for adminshipI wanted to alert you to an adminship application I've filed. Given our disagreement that night, I figured it would be fair to alert you to give you an opportunity to vote on this, even if indeed your vote is an oppose. Thanks. — WCityMike (talk • contribs) 03:11, 28 May 2006 (UTC) Policy questionI have added a request for clarification on Misplaced Pages:Village pump (policy) on whether it is acceptable to blank your own talk page. I am notifying you because I (believe I) have specifically seen you take a stand in the past that it is acceptable. However, I have seen many other admins say it is NOT acceptable. I'm trying to get an unambiguous determination one way or another. Anyway, I thought you may want to weigh in on the issue. To be clear, we are not in conflict. My problem is that I do not know what Misplaced Pages policy is. If official policy is to allow such blanking, that's fine with me. --Yamla 16:54, 28 May 2006 (UTC) Regarding Mistress Selina Kyle reblockDear SlimVirgin: I am writing in regard to your reversal of Linuxbeak's mentorship unblocking of Mistress Selina Kyle (talk · contribs). Although I strongly respect your desire towards wishing adequate community consensus prior to permitting an unblock of this user, due to charges of misconduct previously levelled and indeed justified by user contributions, I do feel that there would be no adverse consequence to permitting a mentorship unblock of either MSK or, indeed, Blu Aardvark, provided the users' actions are watched with adequate attention and that the users are expeditiously reblocked should a user renege upon the conditions of their mentorship agreement. I would ask you to please reverse your re-blocking and permit MSK perhaps a final mentorship chance. Thank you for your assistance. Best regards, --NicholasTurnbull | (talk) 00:09, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for your comments in Lar's RfA!
Discovered somethingOn a template discussion, someone pointed out to me that Image:Anime by nima.jpg is actually fanart/a tracing of "a character from some Anime series". This is protected by copyright; see and so forth. I therefore had to reclassify it as fair use, so (unfortunately) you'll have to remove it from your userpage. Ashibaka tock 02:19, 29 May 2006 (UTC) I just wanted you to know that I really have nothing against you and there is no reason for me to hold a grudge against you. I don't know you in real life. I have no wish to disrupt the encyclopedia. You are not interfering with anything I do. I'm sorry if I caused you anguish. We're just two strangers on the Internet, and we can disagree or agree, but in the end we're here for the same purpose. Peace. Ashibaka tock 05:05, 29 May 2006 (UTC) Don't goYou only let the trolls and bullies win by leaving. FeloniousMonk 05:39, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
I would like to reassure you that I, and I believe a majority of the ArbCom if not in fact all of us, do NOT welcome MSK or BluAardvark back to Misplaced Pages; in fact, quite the reverse. I believe those who do are a tiny percentage of Misplaced Pages's admins, let alone the organisation itself inasmuch as such exists. Matthew Brown (Morven) (T:C) 06:01, 29 May 2006 (UTC) No, no, no! Slim, stay with us! We've lost one of the very nicest admins in the last few days — we can't afford to lose another of them. AnnH ♫ 09:04, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
Don't go, if you do it would be one of the worst things to happen to wikipedia Jaranda 15:32, 29 May 2006 (UTC) Even soI do trust linuxbeak implicitly. I hope we can discuss on skype or so sometime soon. Kim Bruning 10:26, 29 May 2006 (UTC) Take a breakTake a break, but don't go away. :-) Kim Bruning 08:33, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
Take a break, and come back a new person. ;-) -Dna4salE 10:24, 29 May 2006 (UTC) Ditto. — mark ✎ 10:31, 29 May 2006 (UTC) As different as humanly possible. --207.200.116.12 14:24, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
This is a huge loss for Misplaced Pages. Few, if any, editors have been more effective advocates of making Misplaced Pages into a source of accurate, reliable information than Sarah. This brings Misplaced Pages a step closer to just becoming a social club for internet trolls with no interest in writing an encyclopedia. 172 | Talk 22:33, 29 May 2006 (UTC) This rhetoric is unhealthy! Anyway, I have a request - could you please come back and help me proof-read this ever-controversial article? Sometimes it is good just to edit/read articles :). RN 22:37, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
You've been truffled by CharlieCharlie has given you some of his famous Solid chocolate truffles! Chocolate truffles taste good, help moods, promote WikiLove and hopefully make your day better. Hope you find the truffles to be tasty, and make sure you enjoy them with a nice tall glass of milk (they're rich)! Have some chocolate & stick around!!! We need good people to stay! --Charlie 14:05, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
In caseIn case, you have decided to go, please wait for few moments: please touch your heart and think: would it look nice to part in this way? I know our system has several lacunae, but we can surely continue here to realize the best-ever dream of human civilization: to build the sum total of human knowledge. I too disagree with several aspects of our functioning, yet I am continuing as I know that we are the most resilient virtual community, and we shall deliver what we have promised to deliver to the human civilization. Come on, and continue. --Bhadani 17:19, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
Why the blank user page?Hi SlimVirgin. What gives? Thanks! --Tom 17:36, 29 May 2006 (UTC) Please don't leaveDon't let the trolls win. User:Zoe| 20:07, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
If You Can Hack It OutYour good offices and your humanity, along with those others who then came to assist, persuaded me to hang in. Please consider the importance of such qualities in so potentially volatile a venue as this. That said, WP, while an important asset, is not of necessity the center of all things. Place yourself first. Thanks, again, for your help in the past, and, if you so determine, in future. – Best. Fucyfre 20:13, 29 May 2006 (UTC) Adding a voice to the chorusI formally request that you stay instead of leaving. DS 01:29, 30 May 2006 (UTC) WithdrawalI've been reading the entries at ] and, for what it's worth, as a newbie, I agree with SV's position, whatever components of personal emotion and/or tactic it may comprise. I will watch to see what happens, what she decides, and to draw appropriate conclusions as to how effective WP can, in fact, be in the processes by which it attempts to function in its stated goals. Fucyfre 02:13, 30 May 2006 (UTC) SupportI will be a copycat and join the chorus of people asking you to stay, despite the actions of the loathesome trolls at WR and the wildly clueless actions of a certain bureaucrat. I realize that talk is cheap, and I'm not the one dealing with whatever you're being put through, but nonetheless I want to say that I support you, and whatever help I can offer I'm offering. Send e-mail if necessary. --Calton | Talk 04:40, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
I Think AlsoThat there may be need on the part of those more senior at WP to restructure some procedures. I may be new to WP, but I am not new to this sort of problem. It requires addressing. Fucyfre 05:23, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
Don't let the bastids grind you downDo you think a cup of tea and a lemon-curd sarnie might be enough to tempt you back? Or am I going to have to open up the custard cream biscuits? Grace Note 06:29, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
Seeking Editor Review Commentary (If You Like)Hi. In conjunction with my RfA (that you voted on), I have created an editor review, to give people a chance to comment as to ways in which I can branch out or alter my contributions to Misplaced Pages. An RfA seems to solely focus on how one's temperment and contributions relate to how they might handle administrative powers (and the consensus on that seems to be that I'm not quite ready); the editor review opens things up a little more to a larger focus, and I'd love to hear community feedback in the sense of that larger focus, too. If you feel you've already expressed yourself sufficiently when casting your vote, then by all means don't worry about it, but if any thoughts come to mind or if you'd like to expound upon any suggestions or commentary, it would be appreciated. In any case, I appreciated you taking the time to express your opinion on my RfA, and I thank you for that. — WCityMike (talk • contribs) 19:52, 30 May 2006 (UTC) Not sure if you'll read thisBut if you'd drop in MSN sometime, we could probably work this out. Redwolf24 (talk) 02:28, 31 May 2006 (UTC) |