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Welcome

Welcome and thanks for getting a username. Regarding the "Location and Wealth" material - please put it in only one article. Either Southern California or California, whichever is more appropriate. Also, please cool it with the Anaheim Hills. It'd be great if you could go back over the Anaheim Hills, California article to improve it. Cheers, -Will Beback 18:57, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Your recent edit to Southern California

Please do not remove either the {{fact}} and the {{unreferenced}} tags until you or someone else has cited verifiable references using the procedures outlined on on how to cite sources on Misplaced Pages. A user (myself) has requested in good faith for some of the claims you have made by verified by reliable published sources. Thank you. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 20:55, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

• Also, I agree with User:Will Beback above that your "Location and wealth" information should only be made on one article, preferably on Southern California. Because your content is SoCal-centric, I would prefer you do not put on the California article unless you also add examples of some of the suburbs in the San Francisco Bay Area, San Diego, and other regions statewide. Thanks. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 21:01, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

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talk pages

Please come visit the atlak pages of the articels you are editing. In particular, talk:Anaheim Hills, California. Your edits are not conforming to Misplaced Pages practices and norms, and we'd all like to help you rather than working at cross purposes. Misplaced Pages is a collaboration. Cheers, -Will Beback 00:15, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

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The following images are also missing source and licensing information:

• Image:Demolished.jpg
• Image:Anaheimhills.jpg
• Image:Anaheimhillsgolf.jpg
• Image:Irvinepark9.JPG

Thanks. ×Meegs 09:17, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Anaheim Hills, California

Please do not remove the OR tag until the issues have been resolved. Thanks. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 17:02, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

• Are you trying to be disruptive? I am trying, in good faith, to be a neutral observer here. I have not been involved in your dispute over this page with User:Mike Dillon and others. But based on the page's history and the talk page, the proper procedure is to tag the article with {{or}} to let other readers know that this page is indeed under dispute. Thanks. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 17:09, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
  • And what about Image:Ahills.jpg? Mike Dillon claims that this image is actually a fake. Therefore, you might want to edit the image description page and provide some references to prove that the seal does exist, or else Mike Dillon might nominate it for deletion. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 17:15, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
    • Fine. I will leave the {{OR}} off for now. But again, based on his recent edits, I sense that Mike Dillion's current major objection is Image:Ahills.jpg, the seal, which he claims is not official or verifiable. So unless you find something to prove that it is notable, designed by a notable person within the community, and not by yourself, it will eventually have to be removed. Good luck. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 17:29, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Image:Ahills.jpg listed for deletion

Will Beback 18:34, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Double redirects

When you went through and did the dozen or so page moves of Orange County neighborhood articles, you failed to take care of the double redirects. Also, since you seem to have done the moves just to spite User:Will Beback for moving Anaheim Hills, California to Anaheim Hills, Anaheim, California, you should probably read this: Misplaced Pages:Don't disrupt Misplaced Pages to make a point. It's pretty obvious that's what you're doing since you made a bunch of page moves to conform to neighborhood naming convention, but then reversed the one move by Will Beback that you didn't like. Mike Dillon 01:24, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Citing sources

When citing sources and external links, please paste the exact URL/web page where the information came from, not just the home page of the web site. For example, you would paste http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/05/14/immigration/index.html instead of just http://www.cnn.com. Thanks. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 01:28, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

removal of {{sprotect}}

If you continue to remove the {{sprotect}}, you may be blocked for disruption. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 04:23, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

====Regarding reversions made on May 15 2006 (UTC)==== Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Misplaced Pages under the three-revert rule, which states that nobody may revert an article to a previous version more than three times in 24 hours. (Note: this also means editing the page to reinsert an old edit. If the effect of your actions is to revert back, it qualifies as a revert.) Thank you. If this is an IP address, and it is shared by multiple users, ignore this warning, but aviod making any reverts within 24 hours of this warning in order to avoid any confusion. (ESkog) 04:27, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Three-revert rule

You have violated the Misplaced Pages:Three-revert rule. Further reverts will result in a block on your account. -Will Beback 04:27, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

You have been temporarily blocked for violation of the three-revert rule. Please feel free to return after the block expires, but also please make an effort to discuss your changes further in the future. The duration of the block is 24 hours. Here are the reverts in question. (ESkog) 04:28, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Re: Anaheim Hills

Hi Eric. I'm sorry if you felt insulted, as that was not my intention. My intention was to get you to understand the importance of citing sources and collaborating with other editors using the talk page. The reason I did not initially leave you any explanation beyond edit summaries was that I knew that you were involved in the first round of unsourced edits to Anaheim Hills in April and I didn't expect you to respond since you had ignored an earlier request to discuss your changes on Talk:Anaheim Hills, California (as well as the "POV!" discussion).

As for the rdesk.com references, they are still not up-to-snuff, but I trust that they can be improved. A real reference would have more of a summary of housing price data and its trends, rather than data about individual home sales. To avoid being "POV" (see WP:NPOV), you really need a source that makes the conclusions about relative neighborhood "quality" itself, rather than drawing conclusions yourself from raw data. Hope that helps. Mike Dillon 04:41, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

New templates

A new template is just like any other page. You create a template by prefixing the article name with "Template:", for example Template:Infobox Neighborhood. However, if you're intending to create the neighborhood infobox, I'd suggest trying to work with some more experienced editors. You might want to seek guidance at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Cities or Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Southern California. P.S. I believe you can still edit your user talk page, despite being blocked (plus, your block is due to end in a couple hours). Mike Dillon 05:04, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

An alternative is to create the template in your userspace, e.g. User:Ericsaindon2/Infobox. You include it in a page like so: {{User:Ericsaindon2/Infobox}}. That way you can test with less risk of someone deleting your tests for being unencyclopedic. Mike Dillon 05:06, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

I don't know which fancy boxes you're referring to specifically, but that's why I'd recommend involving some editors with a little more experience creating Misplaced Pages templates and HTML in general. Mike Dillon 05:12, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Editing privileges

Eric, I appreciate the energy you bring to your participation in Misplaced Pages. However I am afraid that you may not fully understand our project. We are here to describe things as they are, not as we wish them to be. Misplaced Pages is not a soapbox. We're not here to promote or advocate. Furthermore, we expect that all information added will be verifiable, and with a good faith assumption that intentionally inaccurate information will not be added. Creating a "city seal" for a city which does not exist counts as a hoax, and hoaxes are not tolerated. Finally, Misplaced Pages is a collegial effort which depends on consensus. You need to convince other editors if they disagree with your edits, you may not simply keep adding the same material repeatedly over the objections of other editors. Nobody "owns" an article. If you break the 3RR again or add false information again your editing privileges will be blocked. Please rely only on reliable sources when editing, and please work with your fellow editors. -Will Beback 08:36, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

You have now been blocked for 3RR. When the block expires you may edit again, so long as you observe our policies and guidelines. -Will Beback 04:09, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

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Will Beback, The Selfless Editor

Ok, I underestand you blocking me, but why would you go and block an unaffiliated user like the one you have blocked for backing me up? I am sick and tired of you think that all these pages are your kingdom, and it is not right!

What unaffiliated editor is that? -Will Beback 06:27, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

"Bebackipedia" that does have a nice ring to it. I apologize if I made an error in the blocking, but I can't help that person without knowing which usernames or IPs are not you. It's clear that someone has been making a lot of reverts and other improper edits, and they have all been of a similar nature. I previously warned you that your editing behavior was not acceptable. The blocks will expire shortly. When they do you are welcome to make edits here that are consistent with our guidelines and policies. -Will Beback 01:42, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Well I dont know who has been making the edits, but I have been blocked like 99.999999% of the time, so it definately wasnt me. The second I make another edit, I am blocked again.

I'll go ahead and unblock this account. Please edit responsibly. -Will Beback 05:27, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

While you were blocked you wrote to me several times asking to be unblocked. You promised if I unblocked you that you wouldn't make any "drastic changes" without cinultation with the other editors. Since I unblocked you you've re-inserted the infobox twice even though there is no consensus to include it. You are disrupting the process, showing no good faith, and are pushing a POV. Please stop making changes to the article that are not supported by the other editors. And do not engage in sock puppetry either, in an attempt to get that support. -Will Beback 20:23, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Anaheim Hill Infobox

Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Misplaced Pages under the three-revert rule, which states that nobody may revert an article to a previous version more than three times in 24 hours. (Note: this also means editing the page to reinsert an old edit. If the effect of your actions is to revert back, it qualifies as a revert.) Thank you.Adambiswanger1 22:06, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war; read about how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you do not violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Eric, you MAY NOT add the infobox to the Anaheim Hills page until the group comes to a concensus. Thank you for contributing but you must obey the rules or you will be blocked by an admin. Adambiswanger1 03:32, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Eric, you've been blocked for 3RR again. Please read WP:3RR. Then read it again. -Will Beback 04:22, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Eric, if you'll commit to refrain from inserting infoboxes on the page, and if you have read the 3RR policy twice, I'll ublock you now. -Will Beback 05:55, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Since you have assured me that you will only place boxes in the talk for discussion, and that you have read the 3RR policy, I will unblock you now. -Will Beback 06:23, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Please also read our core policies, WP:V, WP:RS, and WP:NOR. Your editing history indicate that you don't fully understand these policies. As for Dataquick, discuss that on the talk page please. -Will Beback 06:37, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Didn't you promise me that you would not go back to adding boxes to the article?

Also, please remove the tags from your user page which are intended for articles or talk pages. -Will Beback 02:02, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Page moves

Eric, you just moved a number of pages for areas in unincorporated Orange County to incorrect names (including Ladera Ranch, California and Sunset Beach, California). The Ladera Ranch page will have to be fixed by an administrator because of your misspelling during the page move. Please be more careful in the future and Don't disrupt Misplaced Pages to illustrate a point. Mike Dillon 02:46, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Re: Your comment to Mike Dillon and your comment directed at me

Ericsaindon2, the reason Mike Dillon responded to your comment about me was because you posted it at Talk:Anaheim_Hills instead of my personal talk page, which is where you should have posted it if you were soliciting a response exclusively from me. Mike Dillon's response was correct; I informed Serge about the poll because I know he has taken arms with the neighborhood naming issue on several fronts in the past (notably La Jolla) and he has participated in more than a few debates on city naming in general. Mike Dillon is also correct in his appraisal that Serge's point of view is against my own, so if I were truly acting in self-interest, I would not have brought in Serge. Regarding your assertion that Mike Dillon keeps giving you "crap," well being mostly an observer on this whole issue from the beginning (I added you to my watch list when I saw some edits you did to California a couple months ago), I agree with everything Mike Dillon has said on this matter. You seek respect on Misplaced Pages but just when I believe you are working diligently to get things right, I have to revert some senseless vandalism, and now I see that you are venting about "big Misplaced Pages names" on Serge's talk page. I admire the ardor with which you approach Misplaced Pages, especially your zest for the Anaheim Hills article - and I empathize with the frustration that must come from working on something (i.e. an infobox) only to have it removed from the page and outvoted (several times over). However, it is important to yield to the methods in place that seek to uphold certain standards and procedures within the Misplaced Pages mission - these are championed by the "big Misplaced Pages names" who know have been around and are familiar with Misplaced Pages Policy, like Mike Dillon and Will Beback who have been around for a while. If not for editors like them, I shudder to think of the horrid state of this mind-bogglingly amazing world project. Soltras 05:16, 31 May 2006 (UTC)