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Any help in style, format/layout and the like will be appreciated. Any comments about the accuracy of the facts will be met with puzzlement!LessHeard vanU 22:27, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Hayle

Well done on the vandalism : ...Oh how we laughed (not) :) Mammal4 08:11, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

You can't really do proper reverts until you have admin status - I just pick through it by hand and delete the vandalism that way (I had a few random ones on St Erth this afternoon). Once you have admin I believe there is a button at the side (simmilar to the compare versions button on the history pages) that you just highlight and it adds the relevant comentary for you Mammal4 22:00, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Duh - didn't think of that! (much slapping of f'od)...and they say I'm supposed to be clever! ;) Mammal4 09:03, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Penzance transport

What exactly did you have in mind here in terms of expanded content, and how much detail do you think appropriate? I will have a crack at this over the weekend - have fun at Flora day ;) Mammal4 12:34, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Penwith organisation

I've actually set up a page to organise how best to tackle improving the Penwith pages here, as a wikiproject - feel free to add your name to the list. there isn't much there yet as we haven't had much time to organise lists of things to do yet, but the idea is to write down a list of things that we think need doing and then divide them up so as to avoid editor conflicts, as well as bash out ideas for direction. I don't intend it to be a forum for constitutional matters! Mammal4 08:12, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Hello Mark - Just added some information about the history of the Hayle Harbour development etc to the Hayle site - Simon Reedgunner

UK / England -Cornwall continuing thing

Hello Mark, thanks for the feed back left on my talk page - I will have a look at your suggestions in detail when I am not sneeking a peek at wikipedia at work!!! RE the NPOV business - Dont worry I will 'hold myself back' from being biased in Cornwall articles - I actually edited the Penzance article and added 'England' which has resulted in a bit of venom from a few friends of mine - Never mind eh!!! I think most of the Cornwall articles need more content and less bias so I hope to at least have a go. All the best Simon user:Reedgunner

Wreckless Eric; Mick Ronson et al

Yes, I am the same person I have always been ! Keep up the good work, Mark.

Derek R Bullamore 20:03, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Falmouth

Hi Mark, welcome on board!

I like the clarity that you introduced to the Falmouth article, these things sometimes need a new brain to untangle them. Just watch out for "the" definite article at the start of headings - The arrival of the railways in Wiki style would be more usual as Arrival of the railways.

I look forward to reading more of your work around Misplaced Pages.

Geof Sheppard 08:41, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Severin

Hey, it's cool. You've been adding some great information. I just really like keeping things to format and being consistent. The WP standard is "when in doubt, using '&' instead of 'and'". For example, Belle & Sebastian use "and" half the time and an ampersand the other half, but WP compromised on the ampersand. The Banshees usually use "and", I know, but not always: Tinderbox, Through the Looking Glass, Superstition, Twice Upon a Time, The Rapture, and some of the singles all use the ampersand. Also, the WP page for the band uses the ampersand, which was the deciding factor for me. Happy editing! Folkor 20:58, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

The Beatles

Hi! I've seen you around on The Beatles' articles... Would you consider becoming a member of WikiProject The Beatles, a WikiProject which aims to expand and improve coverage of The Beatles on Misplaced Pages? Please feel free to join us.

Abbey Road... You're not in this picture... yet! Todo list: To-do list for User:LessHeard vanU: A list of articles needing cleanup associated with this project is available. See also the tool's wiki page and the index of WikiProjects. Here are some tasks awaiting attention: Article requests : Articles on each Beatle tour (Category:The Beatles concert tours). See: Missing articles. Expand : The Lost Lennon Tapes, notable radio series which has spawned many bootlegs. Apple Records See also: Adopt an article Stubs : See: Category:The Beatles song stubs Update : Pics/Graphics wanted: Kenwood. Verify : Beatle wives Other : Project: Add {{WikiProject The Beatles}} to the talk pages of all Beatles-related articles. Send a newsletter to members, canvas for new members and coordinate tasks. Enter articles assessed as stubs onto this list, also list articles needing cleanup and other work here. If you complete one of these tasks, please remove it from the list and add your achievement to the project log.

Lovely piece you wrote on the Beatles talk page, you clearly know a lot about the band and can write well, so please consider joining our project - even if you all want to do is make suggestions and comments as you just have done. --kingboyk 21:32, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Replied at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_The_Beatles#re.3B_your_kind_invitation_to_join_The_Beatles_Project. --kingboyk 14:31, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Hiya mate. Lar seems to be a bit busy at the moment (and I guess he'll be running for adminship soon) so I'm grabbing the next person (man? woman? other?) I can think of and that's you :) I think it's about time we sent out our first newsletter, to tell the less active members where we're at and what's happening. The most important part of this is to try and drum up some more participation as I think the Project is floundering now the initial "new Project euphoria" is over. See you over at Talk? --kingboyk 04:40, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Happy Spring celebration / Easter (as your preferences and beliefs dictate)

hi

why did u put on your page links to articles such as "son", daughter", family ? these are common words :)

i didn't quite understand your message. what is keeping you up all night exactly ? what's the problem?

The Banshees

I don't claim ownership of the gothic rock article. It must be stated that, well, Siouxsie and the Banshee are well-referenced as gothic rock, from books about the gothic rock scene to Allmusic.com's listing on the band. I'm not saying they were exclusively goth either; obviously they released songs like "Kiss Them for Me". No band is forced to write material in one genre. And additonally, not every band is comfortable with being confined to a genre; the Sisters of Mercy hate being labeled goth and The Cure find it inappropriate. In fact, I'm surprised that the Banshees were removed from the paragraph rather than the Cure if anything, who are routintely criticized in the goth community for being a "pop band".

You obviously don't have to consider them a gothic rock band (they also spanned genres like first-wave punk, post-punk, New Wave, and alternative), but they are considered a gothic rock band by a lot of other people and sources, and a pivotal one at that. WesleyDodds 21:54, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Additionally, if you can expand the Banshees page substantially (since it is surprisingly sparse) that would be much appreciated. WesleyDodds 21:58, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Severin:talk

Copied from discussion page;

deleted 31.05.06.

Greetings from WikiProject The Beatles!

WikiProject The Beatles Newsletter Issue 1 - May 2006
Project news Since the Project began on the 4th March, 14 new articles that we know of have been created - to see a list and add any we didn't know about, visit the Project Log. We've had 2 front-page appearances, with Carl Lindstrom Company and Souvenir of Their Visit to America being listed in Did You Know? We've got underway classifying our articles and building a first class Project infrastructure.	Some project tips Stick the following template {{Template:WPBeatles}} on relevant articles. We have 500+ already but may have missed some! Use British/English grammar and spelling per Policy A few moments checking other editors contributions is always appreciated. Don't be shy on using the talk pages. It's where a lot of stuff gets decided. From the Editors Welcome to the inaugural issue of The Beatles WikiProject's newsletter! We hope that this newsletter will help members—especially those who may be unable to keep up with some of the rapid developments that tend to occur—find new things to do within the project that they may wish to participate in. Please consider this inital issue to be a prototype; as always, any comments and suggestions are quite welcome. We would like to emphasise that this is a collaborative Project and all editors are equal - so next month the newsletter editor might be you! kingboyk, LessHeard vanU and Lar
Signpost The Project has got off to a great start but we really need your help to keep it going. Here's a few things you can do: Turn one of these links blue (let's aim to have at least half of them blue by next time) - Maureen Cleave, Dovedale Infants, The Family Way (film only - soundtrack is blue), Robert Freeman, Ken Townshend. Apple Records artists: Stephen Friedland (Brute Force), Chris Hodge, Radha Krishna Temple, Lon and Derek Van Eaton. Full list & further details. A small number of articles from the 1st batch still need to be classified (assessed). Some choice cuts remain, such as Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band! Batch 2 will start soon so let's get these done! Discussion is underway about what to do with History of the Beatles. If you're feeling really bold, you might even want to make a start on it! If you create a new article related to The Beatles, whether or not it's on the above list, please follow these instructions. It's nothing heavy, it just helps us Project-structure wonks keep track of things. Finally, if you haven't yet adopted an article for improvement, please see the list here. Complete Todo List: Open tasks for WikiProject The Beatles. Edit or discuss these tasks. As the project is currently just starting, our more experienced editors are working on the project infrastructure, classifying articles, and listing/assessing red links. Your assistance is welcome. If you would prefer to just edit - and why wouldn't you? - we have a choice selection of red links to turn blue and articles to clean! Now let's get busy. Collaboration: To Expand: Geoff Emerick, Olivia Trinidad Arias, A World Without Love, MPL Communications. See also: Adopt an article To Clean up: Apple Records discography (wikify) To Merge: To Create: Maureen Cleave, The Family Way, Robert Freeman, Ken Townshend. Full list & instructions. Lists to complete: Wanted Pics/Graphics: Brian Epstein (now has a picture but would benefit from a better one), Mal Evans, Flying (song), Astrid Kirchherr, Jimmy Nicol, Cynthia Powell, The Quarrymen, Alistair Taylor, Ivan Vaughan, Tittenhurst Park. We need a better open-licenced photo for the project, to replace the Abbey Road crossing. If you provide a photo, please remove the ReqPhoto tag from the article's talk page and remove the article from this list. Policy Discussions: Individual songs vs longer album articles, Beatle wives, Merge/split proposals Project: Add {{WPBeatles}} to the talk pages of all Beatles-related articles. Send a newsletter to members, canvas for new members, and coordinate tasks. Enter articles classed as stubs into this list (under To Expand) and also list articles needing cleaning and other work here. If you complete one of these tasks, please remove it from the list and add your achievement to the project log.

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PS, a big personal thanks for your efforts in getting this newsletter ready to go, your contributions helped loads. Cheers for that, mate! ++Lar: t/c 15:52, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Edit summary

"If Helter Skelter is only about a fairground ride, then Norwegian Wood is about IKEA!". Lol! Interesting theory, perhaps you should write an article about it? :P --kingboyk 12:54, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

What is it about then? It's just a bit of a twee love song. McCartney was into twee songs at the time - Honey Pie (about some bird who goes to America and her feller misses her), Martha My Dear (about his dog) - it wouldn't surprise me if this was just as shallow. What's important, and the reason this song is remebered so fondly, is that the actual music is very similar to the punk music of the next decade. To be honest, I think if you read too much into the lyric, you'll probably end up killing Roman Polanski's wife. What do you think the song is about? I', intregued now!--Crestville 15:40, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

That's a good anylasis, yeah. Never thought of it like that. Wasn't trying to start an agument, BTW. Only start arguments with the cunts on Misplaced Pages, I like that. As for a lively debate, I can't help but agree with you, so we can't really have one - though I would point out the song has also been covered by Oasis and U2, who claimed "Charles Manson stole this song from The Beatles, now we're stealing it back!". What a wanker. I noticed your in the Wikibeatles project. I'd love to join a group so close to my own heart, but unfortunately I find the articles are more or less complete. There's nothing I can really add. As a wise man once said "There's nothing you can know that isn't known". Or was it "HELTER SKELTER! (dooby dooby dooby dooby)"--Crestville 20:19, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, she is a card. I just don't know what I can add about the Beatles. I thought I knew a lot but it all seems to be down there in some form, or it won't fit. Out of intrest, would you be able to give the Noel Gallagher page an edit from a neutral point of view? I can't get it GA status as it is apparently too POV. Reckon you could help?

Well I made sure I only used the stuff that involved - or at least directly effected - Noel. I know about the surnames too. That's a bit of a paradox, but I think it's ok now. I think the best balence is to have the enthusiam of a fan and the neutral point of view of an outsider, but I wouldn't really want it to be dry. More moist. Cheers anyway mate.--Crestville 22:32, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

I've had a very quick scan and it looks pretty good to me. It's possible to be both enthusiastic and neutral in outlook, and it's also possible to get fan-written pieces to FA status (as my recent won't-talk-about-it-any-more success demonstrates). It's perhaps a little concerning that the article relies on such a small number of sources, and I think also that each re-used source doesn't need a new footnote. Just give the ref a name and reuse it (<ref name="VH1"/> for 2nd and subsequent uses). I'd fix it myself but I'm a bit tired now (maybe I'll do it some time if nobody else does). Given the length of the article, I think that WP:GOOD is not the best venue for it to get review. I'd suggest listing the article for peer review, with the ultimate aim of FA status. Hope that helps. --kingboyk 22:15, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Cheers van man, I rather think he was. Yeah, he's a very nice fellow. Cheers.--Crestville 20:08, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

from TrevorD

You couldn't link me because my User Id is actually: ] as shown in the edit box! -- TrevorD 15:39, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Hello

Hi, how can I help? Vera, Chuck & Dave 18:23, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

OK I'll give it a bash! Although I may have to call on you for help with certain things from time to time, if that's alright with you? Vera, Chuck & Dave 13:58, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for getting back to me and for your kind offer of help, which I need! At the moment, I'm just finding out how things are done, I've just discovered how you make the thingys go blue! I've read the letter - looks fine. I hope that I'll be better able to help when I become more familiar with how things are done. Take care and close all your doors at night! Vera, Chuck & Dave 08:30, 24 May 2006 (UTC) P.S. I tried to capitalise "The Hurricanes" in The Beatles article, but it turned red so I left it!

Ta for the advise, see yer termorra! Vera, Chuck & Dave 23:02, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject The Beatles Newsletter, Issue 2, June 2006

WikiProject The Beatles Newsletter Issue 2 – June 2006
Beatles News Apple Corps v. Apple Computer. A case brought by Apple Corps against Apple Computer, regarding possible infringement of a previous agreement between the two parties in respect of distribution of music, was heard in a London High Court. The story made Misplaced Pages's front page due to a nomination by our own Kingboyk. The story had an amusing second wave in the news and on Misplaced Pages; be sure to read the article on Guy Goma if you missed it! Project News The Beatles article has been approved for inclusion in Misplaced Pages Version 0.5, making it one of the first 20 articles to be selected and the first in the Music category. The Beatles discography has been improved, thanks particularly to the efforts of Analogdemon and Steelbeard1. The Ringo Starr solo single It Don't Come Easy has been co-adopted by simonthebold. Eleven new articles have been listed in the Project Log since 1 May. The hottest Project page this month has been Policy Talk, where some lively discussion has taken place regarding the (perennial) question of the capitalisation of the letter T in "The Beatles". After seeking the comments of Wikipedian third parties unrelated to the project, the proponents and opponents concluded that the current naming policy was correct. The discussion had the added bonus of bringing in some new members. Kingboyk and Lar have instigated an overhaul of the article classification system involving the project talk page template and the possible use of MathBot. Member News New members to the project this month include Analogdemon, HighwayCello, Wootking, Lukobe, Crestville, Vera, Chuck & Dave, JaymzSpyhunter and Brian.D. Project member (and "co-instigator" of The Beatles Project) Lar was made an Administrator. Project member Kingboyk (the other guilty party) has been awarded a Music Barnstar for his contributions, including his work within The Beatles Project, and has also stewarded the KLF article to Featured Article status this month. Sometimes-contributor ZincOrbie has also been awarded a Barnstar for his work on the Badfinger article. Congratulations to all!	Issue of the Month The matter of the article History of the Beatles and the History section of the main article The Beatles continues to concern various editors, including DavidWBrooks and Vera, Chuck & Dave. Suggestions, comments, or help with the task would be much appreciated. From the Editors The Beatles have been in the real world news recently, but work on The Beatles Project continues as before. This newsletter keeps you up-to-date with what has been happening with the project and, perhaps more importantly, what needs to be done (see the "Issue of the Month" above and the "To Do List" below-left). If you've just joined, add your name to the Participants section of Misplaced Pages:WikiProject The Beatles. You'll get a mention in the next issue of the Newsletter and get it delivered as desired. Also, please include your own promotions and awards in future issues. Don't be shy! Lastly, this is your newsletter and you can be involved in the creation of the next issue (Issue 003 – July 2006). All and any contributions are welcome. Just let yourself be known to any of the undersigned, or start editing! Contributors to this Issue LessHeard vanU (Lead Editor) Kingboyk (Editor) GPHemsley (Editor) Lar (Editor, Distributor)
To Do List Make visible or invisible by clicking Show or Hide, respectively. Open tasks for WikiProject The Beatles. Edit or discuss these tasks. As the project is currently just starting, our more experienced editors are working on the project infrastructure, classifying articles, and listing/assessing red links. Your assistance is welcome. If you would prefer to just edit - and why wouldn't you? - we have a choice selection of red links to turn blue and articles to clean! Now let's get busy. Collaboration: To Expand: Olivia Trinidad Arias, A World Without Love, MPL Communications. See also: Adopt an article To Clean up: Apple Records discography (wikify) To Merge: To Create: Maureen Cleave, The Family Way, Robert Freeman, Ken Townshend. Full list & instructions. Lists to complete: Wanted Pics/Graphics: Brian Epstein (now has a picture but would benefit from a better one), Mal Evans, Flying (song), Astrid Kirchherr, Jimmy Nicol, Cynthia Powell, The Quarrymen, Alistair Taylor, Ivan Vaughan, Tittenhurst Park. We need a better open-licenced photo for the project, to replace the Abbey Road crossing. If you provide a photo, please remove the ReqPhoto tag from the article's talk page and remove the article from this list. Policy Discussions: Individual songs vs longer album articles, Beatle wives, Merge/split proposals Project: Add {{WPBeatles}} to the talk pages of all Beatles-related articles. Send a newsletter to members, canvas for new members, and coordinate tasks. Enter articles classed as stubs into this list (under To Expand) and also list articles needing cleaning and other work here. If you complete one of these tasks, please remove it from the list and add your achievement to the project log.

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Champan

Spot on. I think I have some vauge form or arthritis, possibly a little A.D.D. and (I'm beginning to think) repetative strain injury so I sometimes make typing errors. Are you a Monty Python fan? Only your user page made me think so - "My name is Mark James Slater and this is who I am" sounds like the Ann Elk sketch. Also, you're about the same age as my Dad. Not that I shall hold that agaist you, but still. Interesting eh? Let's be friends --Crestville 02:48, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Actually, your closer in age to my Mum.--Crestville 10:13, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Astrid Kirchherr

Thanks, I'm 98% with it being Eppy with the clothes. I've changed Astrid, If you get a mo, will you give the once over to see if it's ok please? Ta, Vera, Chuck & Dave 23:00, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your time and advice. Ta, Vera, Chuck & Dave 15:09, 3 June 2006 (UTC)