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| *Well, the clear consensus from my block review is that Russavia had reached the point that his continued participation in this project is no longer welcome and the use of talk pages to solicit edits was recently discussed at AN and the consensus was that this was not acceptable use of a talk page. Further AGK locked Russavia's page recently for misuse so its hardly a massive stretch to lock him out for his most recent edits that were clearly designed to solicit edits. I'm comfortable with this action but do feel free to raise this at a drama board if you wish. Since I'm currently on holiday and have sporadic access to the internet perhaps you can cite my explanation if you do decide to go for an extra dose of dramah. Thanks. ] <sup>'']''</sup> 01:18, 10 August 2013 (UTC) | *Well, the clear consensus from my block review is that Russavia had reached the point that his continued participation in this project is no longer welcome and the use of talk pages to solicit edits was recently discussed at AN and the consensus was that this was not acceptable use of a talk page. Further AGK locked Russavia's page recently for misuse so its hardly a massive stretch to lock him out for his most recent edits that were clearly designed to solicit edits. I'm comfortable with this action but do feel free to raise this at a drama board if you wish. Since I'm currently on holiday and have sporadic access to the internet perhaps you can cite my explanation if you do decide to go for an extra dose of dramah. Thanks. ] <sup>'']''</sup> 01:18, 10 August 2013 (UTC) | ||
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Spartaz (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA)
I'm a long term user (first edit 2006) and have been an admin on or off since 2007. When we first started there was so much idealism and we really had no strong policies about inclusion except a desire to have some level of sourcing. As time moved on we became more structured and around the time I became an admin in 2007 we were grappling with the concept of collapsing non notable articles into lists which I was at the forefront of as a regular afd closer and constant presence at DRV. I had a lot of patience once and for that reason was regular DRV closer for a long time after GR Berry left the project. Sadly, my patience was degraded over time and getting involved in the PORNBIO wars pretty much washed out a lot of the good faith that policy and courtesy quite rightly requires us to show. This was again a major change in our approach to content and one of the first SNGs that was deprecated in favour of a more rigid approach to proper sourcing. Since then our content in this area has become much better and we are seeing similar struggles now in the sports arena where SNGs are slowly giving way to GNG level standards.
I have always taken a very legalistic approach to closing discussions that I recognise does not fit well to the current community standard, where low participation level allowing more brigading of votes or allowing more non-policy based arguments. For this reason I'm not really closing discussions but will still happily review old closes. Otherwise I mostly review and nominate unsuitable content as a BLP is a serious matter and needs to be properly sourced.
i am willing to userfy deleted articles for improvement as long as there is a reasonable likelihood that they can be saved. If you are challenging a deletion, do you have three good sources?
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- Please don't leave talkback templates as I always watchlist pages when I edit and I'm perfectly capable of looking for a reply myself.
 | Spartaz is taking a short wikibreak and will be back on Misplaced Pages soon. |
Your admin action
Hi Spartaz, I saw that you revoked Russavia's talk page access. You cited a principle that I haven't seen spelled out so starkly before; while there are certainly cases where commenting on Misplaced Pages content would fan the flames of a conflict, I don't think that's the case here. The things Russavia pointed out were legitimate concerns, and other users have since taken related actions. While it's true that his delivery was a little snarky, I can't see how that's an actionable problem. Could you explain, or (I think better), reverse this action? -Pete (talk) 23:39, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
- What possible need does Russavia have for using his talkpage to comment on content except either to solicit edits or make some convoluted point about his block. Neither action is helpful.
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- Well, the clear consensus from my block review is that Russavia had reached the point that his continued participation in this project is no longer welcome and the use of talk pages to solicit edits was recently discussed at AN and the consensus was that this was not acceptable use of a talk page. Further AGK locked Russavia's page recently for misuse so its hardly a massive stretch to lock him out for his most recent edits that were clearly designed to solicit edits. I'm comfortable with this action but do feel free to raise this at a drama board if you wish. Since I'm currently on holiday and have sporadic access to the internet perhaps you can cite my explanation if you do decide to go for an extra dose of dramah. Thanks. Spartaz 01:18, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
Archive17 link points to Archive16 page
FYI: Your Archive17 link (above) actually points to the page for Archive16. Enjoy your break! RCraig09 (talk) 02:17, 10 August 2013 (UTC)