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The section in this article on the Netherlands describes the situation from 1990 to 2002, but does not say what happened in 2002 to change this, nor what the situation is now. This information should be included in the article if anyone knows the answer. It would also be interesting, but a lesser priority, to hear about how it worked before 1990. ] (]) 15:16, 31 July 2012 (UTC) The section in this article on the Netherlands describes the situation from 1990 to 2002, but does not say what happened in 2002 to change this, nor what the situation is now. This information should be included in the article if anyone knows the answer. It would also be interesting, but a lesser priority, to hear about how it worked before 1990. ] (]) 15:16, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

== Pedophile groups ==

], an editor I'm familiar with because we have worked on pedophile matters together on Misplaced Pages, ; he cited ] for the removal. But, like I stated, in , "Considering that this matter is a significant interest to pedophile groups, as documented in various ], some material about that should be in this article. It's already noted in the lead." And per ], the lead should summarize the article's most significant aspects. Now we have a lead that mentions the pedophile aspect, but no material lower in the article for detail on that. And if the material is removed from the lead, I don't agree with that either. The Pedophile advocacy groups section might have been too long with regard to ], but I don't think it should have been completely cut. ] (]) 22:40, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

:Well we could change the lead? I perhaps edited the article against my better judgement but I was looking at it on another issue. I do believe this is such a fringe viewpoint it should go into an article on pedophilia, sure, but not this article. Fringe noticeboard for more opinions? Or perhaps just a one liner not in the opening?. Thanks, ♫ ] ] ] 22:43, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
::Hey, SqueakBox. Per above, I don't feel that there shouldn't be any mention of this in the article. Perhaps it should be mentioned somewhere in the article without being in the lead or without being placed in its own section because perhaps doing either is giving the material WP:Undue weight. But, yes, it is already mentioned in the ] article. ] (]) 22:49, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
:::I've tried to meet your concerns. How does it look?. Thanks, ♫ ] ] ] 22:53, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
::::Yeah, I saw that you went ahead and took the initiative and However, because sections consisting of a single sentence are usually discouraged, per ], it's probably best to move that material up to the '''Initiatives to change the age of consent''' section...immediately under the first paragraph without it being its own section (meaning without it being a subsection). ] (]) 22:59, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
:::::I have made it a sub-section. I dont believe putting it above the countries sub-sections would be helpful, though, due to ] issues. Thanks, ♫ ] ] ] 23:07, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
::::::I understand. It's still better not to have a section or subsection that consists of a single sentence. However, your addition isn't the only section like that in this article. So thanks for working with me on this. ] (]) 23:17, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
:::::::'''Note:''' I tweaked because I realize that you may have read that as me suggesting a subsection, and someone else probably would have as well. ] (]) 23:22, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

==These redirect pages are equating age of consent reform with pedophile activism. Are these topics really one and the same?==
Many of are essentially equating age of consent reform with ], which seems to be a ] description of this topic. Should these redirects be kept this way, or should they be re-targeted to ]? ] (]) 13:20, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
:Pedophiles have had a lot to do with age of consent reform (their attempts to lower the age of consent and continual advocacy of lowering the age of consent no matter what part of the world). And considering that there is a section on it in this article, which used to be significantly healthier than it is now (per the ] section above), it was not inappropriate to redirect those terms here. You should know by now that many redirects point to articles because those articles also deal with the subject, not always because those articles are mostly or only about that subject. Sometimes that article is the best redirect for the term/concept and it is therefore often not "potentially misleading," certainly is not equating the whole topic with that term/concept or necessarily biased. And when it is obvious that the term redirects there because the article is clearly covering the subject, readers don't need to be told with a hatnote that the term redirects there. Not to mention that it's clear the term redirects there anyway. That stated, in this case, the ] article is the better redirect for those terms. Not only because it is the main article about pedophilia, but because it currently covers the topic significantly more than this one does. I'd already redirected ''pedophile activism'' and ''pedophile advocacy'' to the section in the Pedophilia article about the topic before at this one. The other terms and spelling variations about pedophile activism should be redirected to that section of the Pedophilia article as well. ] (]) 13:45, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

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The section in this article on the Netherlands describes the situation from 1990 to 2002, but does not say what happened in 2002 to change this, nor what the situation is now. This information should be included in the article if anyone knows the answer. It would also be interesting, but a lesser priority, to hear about how it worked before 1990. Credulity (talk) 15:16, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

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