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Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Monicasdude closed

This arbitration case is closed.

Monicasdude is placed on standard civility parole for one year. If he makes any edits which are judged by an administrator to be uncivil, personal attacks, or assumptions of bad faith, then he may be blocked for a short time of up to one week for repeat offenses. Monicasdude is banned from making edits related to the deletion process (excepting obvious vandalism and copyright problems) for one year. This is to be interpreted broadly, and includes, but is not limited to, commenting on articles for deletion nominations and removals of nominations for proposed deletion and speedy deletion. He may be blocked for a short time of up to one week for repeat offenses. After 5 such blocks, the maximum block time is increased to a year.

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For the Arbitration Committee, --Ryan Delaney 08:17, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Page blanked

Hello - you may have missed it, but you deleted many of the comments on the Queen's University talk page here when you added your "off topic" template. I've restored the comments, and then restored your template edit. Cheers. --Ckatz 08:44, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Favour: The Widget

Can I ask a favour, please? Some fans (and possibly some of the creators) of The Widget podcast are apparently convinced I'm out to destry 'their' article - presumably because I put a POV template on the article and pointed out some of the POV issues on the talk page. At this point, I expect any changes I may try make to result in an edit war and personal attacks on me, so having another editor review the article would be very useful, I figure. Thanks. —GrantNeufeld 19:34, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for helping out! —GrantNeufeld 19:56, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Green Party of Canada

I'm sorry to have to disagree with you on the POV vs. NPOV status of calling the party "eco-capitalist". The use of the term is controversial and is not endorsed by the party, so should be in a "Controversies" section in the article. I, personally, come from a more anti-capitalist background, so have never been happy about the accusations of the party being right-wing. (I'm also not happy with the accusations of it being left-wing because I tend not to agree with narrow ideological frameworks like the uni-dimensional traditional poltical spectrum.) (BTW, anti-capitalist does not mean pro-socialist. I prefer to avoid ideologies altogether.) —GrantNeufeld 05:54, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

My RFA

Hi Ardenn,

Thank you for any constructive criticism you may have given in my recent unsuccesful RFA. I will strive to overcome any shortcomings you may have mentioned & will try & prove myself worthy of your vote in the future.

Cheers

Srikeit 10:08, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Libby Davies

Please see Talk:Libby Davies. - Montréalais 16:02, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Recent oppose votes in RFAs

Hello! While I understand you are angry at administrators and that you don't agree with policies like Fair use, I also believe you may be failing at one of the basic points of Misplaced Pages: assume good faith. By constantly voting negatively because there is no way to remove administrators (which is not correct, by the way), it is my belief that you are not assuming good faith in their future behaviour. Administrators should be chosen because of what they have done, not what they may do in the future. As already stated in some RFAs, that is not the place for complaining. I am not asking you to stop voting negatively if you feel like that, but instead to also reach the formal channels, as probably nobody will do it unless it is you. Just an advice from a third party. -- ReyBrujo 22:33, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Kathryn Holloway(2nd nomination)

You have given me an NPA warning? Wow! Pretty feeble response. - CrazyRussian talk/contribs/email 03:31, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

User talk:JaysCyYoung

What are you doing? Why are you revert warring on somone's talk page? Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 00:15, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

3RR on Queen's University

You have been temporarily blocked for violation of the three-revert rule. Please feel free to return after the block expires, but also please make an effort to discuss your changes further in the future. Difs: Admrb♉ltz (t • c • log) 00:45, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Crystal Ball Policy and Star Trek XI

Hi, Ardenn, this is BCSWowbagger, whose additions to Star Trek XI you have been reverting, per the Crystal Ball policy. Now, I am new here, so I confess that I may be doing something wrong. However, having read the Crystal Ball policy several times now, as well as made an un-responded-to entry in ST XI's Talk page, and a lengthy question/objection in my edit notes (which was answered rather glibly, you must admit), I still do not understand how the paragraph on movie-related rumors in any way violates the CB policy, or indeed any other Wikipedian policy.

The rumors I listed are all relevant to the movie; the movie itself is an "individual scheduled or expected future event" that is "notable and almost certain to take place". None of the rumors listed are "extrapolation, speculation, or... original research". They are all cited, noteworthy, and relevant to the article's main topic. To the Trekkie community, every word about the movie spoken by anyone of import is a topic instantly worthy of pages of discussion; only the most relevant of these rumors were added to the page, while, for instance, Robert Picardo's speculation of last week was left out. None of the rumors are written as "advertising". They conform closely to the NPOV rules. I simply do not understand your use of this rule to remove the rumor section.

Finally, you cited some sort of policy that "Misplaced Pages is not a rumor mill." Neither this policy nor anything similar are present on the page to which you linked. A Google search turned up nothing. Would you care to point me in the direction of this rule? Or was this citation an oversight on your part?

Assuming I don't find some rule to the contrary, I will revert the article in one week unless I hear from you. Thank you. BCSWowbagger 05:55, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

New Guy Question

Hi. You gave me an introduction post on my talk page, so I figured I'd ask you this. On my page, I have a few "User is..." blocks that I've found on other pages. Is there a place to find a list of all of them? Thanks. Rockhound 23:08, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

• Thanks a bunch for the help, man. Now all I need to do is find a formatting template Wikipage. Know of any? Rockhound 17:51, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Meat puppetry

Would appreciate if you would put the meatpuppet info on the user talk pages as opposed to the Queen's talk page. Thanks -- Samir धर्म 00:52, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

And also, I'm aware of WP:AGF. No need to remind me on my talk page. Thanks. -- Samir धर्म 00:52, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Fair enough. I've got my eye on the article also. I think the traditions section should probably be toned down a bit and will state that on the talk page. Regards -- Samir धर्म 00:55, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

You are being overly agressive. Put a meatpuppet warning on someones talk page when they haven't actually done anthing is bullying. You need to stop using policy tags as weapons. Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 05:37, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Response to your comment

I have reread WP:AGF per your advice. I do not wish to make this a major issue, but one line in particular from WP:AGF stands out as relevant: "Of course, there's a difference between assuming good faith and ignoring bad actions. If you expect people to assume good faith from you, make sure you demonstrate it. Don't put the burden on others. Yelling "Assume Good Faith" at people does not excuse you from explaining your actions, and making a habit of it will convince people that you're acting in bad faith." Thank you for your comment. —Cuiviénen, Wednesday, 17 May 2006 @ 01:21 UTC

Thanks muchly

Thanks very much for the barnstar. It is wonderful to get recognition once in a while! It doesn't happen as often on Misplaced Pages as it should. Regards, Ground Zero | t 02:15, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Making points on RfA pages

Please stop making a point about the RfA process in general on RfA pages, if you want to discuss the fact that we need no more admins please do it on the RfA talk page and not the RfA pages. Thank you -- Tawker 05:32, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Template:Canadian mobile phone companies

• Is 7-11 Wireless even sold at Canadian 7-11's? --Riley 18:49, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Thank you for your response User:Ardenn. I stand corrected! I apologize in advance if I am not following the correct format, as I am still new to wikipedia. --Riley 18:57, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Apology Accepted

It takes a big person to apologize and admit that they were wrong, so I accept your apology. Hopefully we can work together in the future rather than bicker needlessly. Cheers!

JaysCyYoung 02:52, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Ditto

I too accept your apology. Thanks

LeftCoast 16:56, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Question about copyvio

When I place the copyvio tag in an article, do I also blank the previous content of the article, or does an administrator blank it once my copyvio tag submission has been reviewed? My question comes from the comment you left here (College of Toronto), and the fact that placing the {{copyvio}} tag doesn't mention blanking the content. Thanks! --Stephane Charette 01:43, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

University of Alberta

• Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Misplaced Pages under the three-revert rule, which states that nobody may revert an article to a previous version more than three times in 24 hours. (Note: this also means editing the page to reinsert an old edit. If the effect of your actions is to revert back, it qualifies as a revert.) Thank you. - pm_shef 01:17, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

I don't appreciate your baseless accusations, especially considering I was simply following proper process. Not to mention that yelling at neutral parties is probably not the best idea.

1. I'm not being a nag, I'm using the warning templates to remind you that you are one edit away from violating 3RR. I don't doubt that you know the rule, but the template still needs to be given to you regardless.
2. No I'm not wikistalking you, and I resent the fact that you assume as much. For someone who is accusing others of not assuming good faith, you are very quick to jump to conclusions yourself. I'll have you know that I have most of the big Canadian Universities on my watch list and although in the case of the current conflict regarding the Infobox on the U of A page I happen to agree with you, I have warned both you and the other user involved to avoid 3RR. Next time, I'd appreciate it if you didn't accuse me of breaking rules with no cause. - pm_shef 01:32, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

I am very new and still learning- thanks for the agreement with the hospital article and the comment about my user and talk pages being mixed up. JByrd 01:27, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Chief Dental Officer

Why do you think that the Chief Dental Officer is not an important article? It is a federal position in the Canadian government. I'm sure that if the government created a position for it, it is important. And how is the information not verifiable, if you click on the link below you will see all the information about the CDO. I just wanted to clear up these questions. Gsingh 04:21, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Merci beaucoup!

Thank you,Ardenn! Thank you for voting for my recent RfA, which passed (to my extreme surprise and shock) with a total tally of 66/15/2. Although you didn't give me a support vote, I would nevertheless like to thank you for your helpful comments and offer a helping hand in any admin-related tasks that may be required -- it's as simple as leaving a message on my talkpage. Thanks again! -→Buchanan-Hermit™/!? 22:43, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Lgibbons.jpg

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Oakville-Trafalgar Memorial Hospital

We've both tried to get this prod-ed and the author has removed the tags but not added significant content. I see that you added a "wikipedia is not a directory" but somehow that doesn't appear in the article anymore. Should we AfD this? JByrd 11:48, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Use of Template:Greens

The Greens template appears on most Green Party articles that I'm aware of on WP (including small provincial parties). If you don't think that is appropriate, please post your reason(s) and recommendations on the template's talk page. Thanks! —GrantNeufeld 21:52, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Welcome Message

Thanks. Thrasymachus007 19:36, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Regarding Sock Puppeting

I have a few questions about sock puppeting, because I saw the signs you had put on FruitsAndVegetables133. What would happen if something happened, and I couldn't open my account, or something, and I decided to get a new one. Would that be considered sock puppeting? Loghead1

Date link

I don't understand your comment. Can you explain further? --Suttungr 14:56, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I didn't know it did that. Based on the help text, shouldn't the year also be linked, ie. May 9, 2006? --Suttungr 15:10, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Misplaced Pages under the three-revert rule, which states that nobody may revert an article to a previous version more than three times in 24 hours. (Note: this also means editing the page to reinsert an old edit. If the effect of your actions is to revert back, it qualifies as a revert.) Amherst5282 01:22, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

YOU KEEP REMOVING ITEMS FRROM YOUR TALK PAGE!!!!! OH GOD!!!!! OH THE INJUSTICE!!!!!!!!!Amherst5282 01:23, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Oh, and its ok for you to screw around with people's comments on YOUR page, but on MINE, you become the Wiki-gestapo????Amherst5282 01:23, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Amherst5282 will no longer be an issue

We have sent a clear message which will be strictly enforced. Thank you for giving us this opportunity to serve the Wiki-community.SebastianFlyte 02:41, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

He or she has been informed that they are to cancel their user account and any further attempt an contributing to any article will be deleted.SebastianFlyte 07:05, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your contributions to our talk page. However, we do not appreciate unfounded accusations that we are a "sockpuppet." Misplaced Pages policies on personal attacks are located at WP:ATTACK, please familiarize yourself with them. Such attacks constitute vandalism (see WP:VAND) and will not be tolerated. Amherst5282 has been eliminated and his or her future presence on Misplaced Pages will be expunged should he or she attempt to continue contributing (see User:Amherst5282), given the history of valueless and non-useful contributions in the past. We are pleased that you rejoice with us in this conclusion of the affair.SebastianFlyte 20:15, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Familiarize yourself with Misplaced Pages:Assume good faith. These guidelines do not permit accusing other Misplaced Pages editors of being sockpuppets, particularly when no evidence is educed to support this accusation.SebastianFlyte 20:34, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Please Answer Quickly

Dear Ardenn, I sent you a message a few days ago about sockpuppetry. Then, I found out that I was convicted of sockpuppetry for FruitsAndVegetables133. I have only used Loghead1. FruitsAndVegetables133 is in fact my friend, though, and I have been in contact with him. Do you think that maybe he got onto mine? I definately do not know how this happened, and I am quite offended. Could there also be a problem with my computer?? I am really sorry about this, I never would have meant for any of this to happen, or for people to convict me. I just asked about sock puppetry becuause I saw it on FruitsAndVegetables133, which I go onto to see about sockpuppetry. I saw a paragraph on my user page as well, if you want to read it go to User:Loghead1. --Regarding The Paragraph-- Also, as it states in the paragraph, it says that I had edited Eburn Ontario. I have edited a place called EMBRUN, Ontario, but never one called Eburn Ontario. As it also states in the paragraph that FruitsAndVegetables133, and I both seem to work on similar articles. This is true. I work on a wikiproject with him, as also, I work on Embrun, Ontario, because as I said earlier, we are friends, and I have contact with him.

I mainly work on the Embrun, Ontario one. I also look at some of the other ones, and read them for my personal enjoyment.

Thank you for reading my message, and I would really appreciate it if you got back to me as soon as possible. Thank you,

User:Loghead1 Loghead1 00:12, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Admin

I didn't realize you weren't an administrator. Do you want to be one? CJCurrie 22:46, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Do you think there's consensus for me to be one?

I'm not certain -- I haven't followed your posting history very closely, but I assumed anyone as committed to the project as yourself would either be an admin or have plans to be one. Do you have any outstanding grievances with other Canadian WPedians? CJCurrie 23:19, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

If you're interested, you might want to look over Misplaced Pages:Administrators.

On another matter entirely, do you have any information about the 1996 GPC leadership convention, or the 1993 GPO convention? CJCurrie 23:58, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar

Thanks. Do you have any comment about the other RFCs? CJCurrie 04:50, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Question

     Ardenn,
            I know that I have sent you a lot of messages but I have another question. If I erase some of my talk, or my user page, is that vandalism?? Thanks,

Loghead1 12:54, 10 June 2006 (UTC)