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| I'm tired. I'm tired of feeling like the community runs on high-octane rage and like every policy or content discussion is all that stands between us and the end of the world. I'm sick of seeing people talk to each other as if they're not speaking to another human being, because typing words on a page makes it so much easier to say things you wouldn't say to someone's face. I'm exhausted from trying, in a tiny way in a few tiny corners, to make things suck here a smidgen less, and mostly feeling like I've failed, when I can muster the energy to try at all.<p> | |||
| == Flow Newsletter == | |||
| This isn't a retirement message. I'm still here, and I'm still editing in my usual sporadic fashion. But I'm tired of the bad, and I want to hear the good. I would so, so appreciate it if anyone who stumbles across this message could leave me a note telling me what you love about Misplaced Pages. What you do or the community does that ''doesn't'' feel draining. What's gone right lately, for you and your work here, or for the project(s) themselves. Tell me something good that came out of your time here. Remind me why we put our energy into this thing in the first place. Show me somewhere on-wiki where people completely failed to be terrible to each other even though the chance was there. Show me editors being valued without being showered in the shiny baubles that make this feel a game of trinket collection instead of a collaboration.<p> | |||
| Hey Fluffernutter. I'm dropping you a note to let you know (or remind you) about ], the structured discussion system for Misplaced Pages that we're building. You may have heard about some of the longer-term vision for Flow in the past, but in the last two months we've been moving quickly to narrow down the short-term scope of the project, and we're keen to get feedback. | |||
| Remind me of the good, guys. ] (]) 19:24, 24 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
| First: we've written up an explanation of the "]" – the set of features that will be in the first, on-wiki deployment. Because discussions on Misplaced Pages are complex and varied, we're approaching Flow development as an incremental process of uncovering user needs for different types of discussion. The first release will be limited to a few WikiProject talkpages only, with the goal of testing out our first stab at peer-to-peer discussion functionality and improving it based on feedback from the WikiProject members who use it. If you've got any thoughts on the MVP, or on ], let us know on the Flow talkpage. If you know of a WikiProject that might be interested in testing this out, let Maryana know on ] :) | |||
| Second: we're having a set of discussions around some experimental features we'll be trying in the first release. These include ] and ]. If you've got any practical thoughts on these, we'd appreciate hearing them. For background and feedback on the design, there are the ongoing set of ], a ], and a ]. | |||
| The software prototype is still in early development, and changing daily in small ways, with major goals updating every 2 weeks. If you've got comments about other bits of the software, we'll be holding an ] session in #wikimedia-office at on <s>17 November</s> to talk about Flow as a whole, and fielding questions on the talkpage before and after then. | |||
| Third: this is a pre-newsletter announcement of a new ] signup page! If you'd like further updates, details, and requests for input, please add your name there. | |||
| Thanks, ] (]) 19:56, 15 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :Due to multiple-human-error (the best kind of error!) the Office Hours meeting was announced with the wrong month. The logs for today's (quiet) meeting, can be seen at ]. | |||
| :The updated time and date of our next IRC office hours meeting is: ''' on 24 October'''. Thanks, and sorry about the mixup. ] (]) 21:37, 17 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == ] == | |||
| Hi Fluffernutter. I don't know if you remember me, but we talked a long time ago after I saw a presentation you did at an old Wikimania. I changed my username since then, since my old username had identifiable information. | |||
| I've sort of exhausted my patience on this article and I don't feel the Talk page discussion is going in a productive direction. I was wondering if you would take a look at whether the article is fair. | |||
| I do not have a COI, but an editor at COIN asked me to participate on a volunteer basis; a PR rep from Bell Pottinger (I think it was Pottinger?) brought the article to our attention. ] (]) 17:21, 16 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :I'm sorry, CM, but (as you can probably tell from the amount of time it took me to respond), I'm short on time lately and I don't think I can be relied on to help you out with this. Maybe one of my friendly talk page stalkers has some time to donate, but otherwise I guess I'd have to refer you back to COIN or (if things are really bad) ANI. ] (]) 16:16, 17 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::Thanks for the advice. I posted it at ANI . I think that was the right place to go at this point. ] (]) 19:07, 19 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == GOCE September 2013 drive wrap-up == | |||
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| | <span style="font-size: 110%;">'''] ] wrap-up newsletter'''</span> | |||
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| <center>The ''']''' is now ready for review.</center> | |||
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| – Your project coordinators: {{noping|Torchiest|Torchiest}}, {{noping|Baffle gab1978|Baffle gab1978}}, {{noping|Jonesey95|Jonesey95}}, and {{noping|The Utahraptor|The Utahraptor}}. | |||
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| | <small> To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from ]. Newsletter delivered by ] (]) 05:10, 18 October 2013 (UTC)</small> | |||
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| == ''The Signpost'': 16 October 2013 == | |||
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| </div><!--Volume 9, Issue 41--> | |||
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| * ] (]) 02:25, 19 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
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| == ] == | |||
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| Latest ''']''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. ] are available. | |||
| '''New features''' | |||
| * You can now choose which language to show for SVG files that contain several languages, using the "lang" option, like <code><nowiki><nowiki>]]</nowiki></code> for the German layer of ]. | |||
| * Developers are looking for wiki communities to try the new search system. | |||
| '''] news''' | |||
| * You can now create and edit references inside media captions. | |||
| * You now need to press the "delete" key twice to delete a template, reference or image; the first time, they only become selected, to avoid accidental deletion of infoboxes and similar content. | |||
| * When you resize images, you will now still see them, and their size will also be seen in the center. | |||
| '''Future''' | |||
| * The new ] ("Echo") will be ] that don't already have it on October 22. It will notify you of changes and events that affect you. | |||
| * ] was added to test wikis on October 17. It will arrive to non-Misplaced Pages wikis on October 21 and all Misplaced Pages wikis on October 24 (]). | |||
| * The interface to reset your password will ]. | |||
| ''''']''' prepared by ] and posted by ] • ] • ] • ] • ] • ].'' | |||
| </div> 09:10, 21 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
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| == Stephanie Adams == | |||
| Can you unprotect ] if the reason for its full-protection no longer applies? ] (]) 22:55, 22 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :It's theoretically possible to unprotect it, yes. I'm not up-to-date on the article's situation, or the current state of the situation that led to its protection. Can you explain why you think the reason no longer exists? The last time I checked it was a long-term issue. ] (]) 23:47, 22 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::You didn't mention a reason when you protected it last year (I assume edit warring), but it seems like while it was originally semi'd, there was only 1 edit-warrior, and he's now blocked. Maybe since IPs were such a problem in the past, you could downgrade it to semi, but I don't see a need to keep it admin-only forever. ] (]) 23:59, 22 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::Ah, I thought maybe you knew something I didn't. No, edit warring wasn't the issue. There are long-term BLP issues with that article, having to do with socking and harassment. I'm afraid that unless there's a solid reason to believe that situation no longer exists, this is one of those unfortunate articles that can't in good conscience be unprotected. ] (]) 00:03, 23 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
Revision as of 19:24, 24 October 2013
I'm tired. I'm tired of feeling like the community runs on high-octane rage and like every policy or content discussion is all that stands between us and the end of the world. I'm sick of seeing people talk to each other as if they're not speaking to another human being, because typing words on a page makes it so much easier to say things you wouldn't say to someone's face. I'm exhausted from trying, in a tiny way in a few tiny corners, to make things suck here a smidgen less, and mostly feeling like I've failed, when I can muster the energy to try at all.
This isn't a retirement message. I'm still here, and I'm still editing in my usual sporadic fashion. But I'm tired of the bad, and I want to hear the good. I would so, so appreciate it if anyone who stumbles across this message could leave me a note telling me what you love about Misplaced Pages. What you do or the community does that doesn't feel draining. What's gone right lately, for you and your work here, or for the project(s) themselves. Tell me something good that came out of your time here. Remind me why we put our energy into this thing in the first place. Show me somewhere on-wiki where people completely failed to be terrible to each other even though the chance was there. Show me editors being valued without being showered in the shiny baubles that make this feel a game of trinket collection instead of a collaboration.
Remind me of the good, guys. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 19:24, 24 October 2013 (UTC)