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| =="Why Dmitri?" Discussion== | |||
| ⚫ | Dmitri Leybman (1986-) | ||
| The ] page gives the following rule: | |||
| ⚫ | ---- | ||
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| ⚫ | An l'inq from X-box 360 game list article redirects here. What gives? | ||
| |- style="background: #efefef;" | |||
| ! Russian<br />spelling | |||
| ! English<br />transliteration | |||
| ! Special provision | |||
| ! Examples | |||
| |- | |||
| | rowspan="3" | –ий endings || iy || None | |||
| | Син'''ий''' = Sin'''iy''' | |||
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| | y || When it is a commonly accepted convention | |||
| | Троцк'''ий''' = Trotsk'''y''' | |||
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| | i || When it is a commonly accepted convention | |||
| | Юр'''ий''' = Yur'''i''' | |||
| |- | |||
| |} | |||
| However, the table also states that: | |||
| ⚫ | Should we add list all common variations of the name? I added "Dmitriy" to the list. --] 20:40, 31 May 2006 (UTC) | ||
| {{not verified}} | |||
| so, I think we need not treat this as gospel. Also, note that this is to transliterate ''words,'' which is not qutie the same thing as ''names.'' However, this guideline is a good starting point. Convention is a tricky thing, especially for historical "Dmitri's," where convention has changed much like linguistic fashions. So, I propose a "Dmitri Guideline:" all historical "Dmitri's" will be transliterated as "Dmitri." All modern "Dmitri's" will be transliterated as the owner of the name seem to prefer, if such is ascertainable, e.g., ]. Otherwise, default to Dmitri. | |||
| Other encyclopedias are inconsistant. Here is the ''Britannica'' page for ] , but then again it has "False Dmitry:" , and we want to be better than Britannica! In general, "Dmitri," seems to be the more accepted varient in print, is much more aesthetically pleasent, and I won't even start to get into linguistic (or pseudo-linguistic) reasons. So, I have been going to various pages and gently and gradualy moving them over to this spelling. If someone has an objection in general, I shall point them here, otherwise, if it pertains to a specific "Dmitri," that can be addressed on the respective talk page. --] 06:12, 15 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
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| ⚫ | == Which Dmitri? == | ||
| Why is this page here when "Dmitri" is the more common as well as the, I belive, more corect transliteration? Unless someone can voice a stong objection, I would like to move this page. --] 17:54, 7 June 2006 (UTC) (whose real name is "Dmitri," of course.) | Why is this page here when "Dmitri" is the more common as well as the, I belive, more corect transliteration? Unless someone can voice a stong objection, I would like to move this page. --] 17:54, 7 June 2006 (UTC) (whose real name is "Dmitri," of course.) | ||
| ⚫ | ==Dmitri Leybman (1986-)== | ||
| ⚫ | ---- | ||
| ⚫ | An l'inq from X-box 360 game list article redirects here. What gives? | ||
| ⚫ | Should we add list all common variations of the name? I added "Dmitriy" to the list. --] 20:40, 31 May 2006 (UTC) | ||
Revision as of 06:12, 15 June 2006
"Why Dmitri?" Discussion
The Romanization of Russian page gives the following rule:
| Russian spelling |
English transliteration |
Special provision | Examples |
|---|---|---|---|
| –ий endings | iy | None | Синий = Siniy |
| y | When it is a commonly accepted convention | Троцкий = Trotsky | |
| i | When it is a commonly accepted convention | Юрий = Yuri |
However, the table also states that:
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so, I think we need not treat this as gospel. Also, note that this is to transliterate words, which is not qutie the same thing as names. However, this guideline is a good starting point. Convention is a tricky thing, especially for historical "Dmitri's," where convention has changed much like linguistic fashions. So, I propose a "Dmitri Guideline:" all historical "Dmitri's" will be transliterated as "Dmitri." All modern "Dmitri's" will be transliterated as the owner of the name seem to prefer, if such is ascertainable, e.g., Dmitry Sklyarov. Otherwise, default to Dmitri.
Other encyclopedias are inconsistant. Here is the Britannica page for Dmitri Yazov , but then again it has "False Dmitry:" , and we want to be better than Britannica! In general, "Dmitri," seems to be the more accepted varient in print, is much more aesthetically pleasent, and I won't even start to get into linguistic (or pseudo-linguistic) reasons. So, I have been going to various pages and gently and gradualy moving them over to this spelling. If someone has an objection in general, I shall point them here, otherwise, if it pertains to a specific "Dmitri," that can be addressed on the respective talk page. --VonWoland 06:12, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
Which Dmitri?
Why is this page here when "Dmitri" is the more common as well as the, I belive, more corect transliteration? Unless someone can voice a stong objection, I would like to move this page. --VonWoland 17:54, 7 June 2006 (UTC) (whose real name is "Dmitri," of course.)
Dmitri Leybman (1986-)
An l'inq from X-box 360 game list article redirects here. What gives?
Should we add list all common variations of the name? I added "Dmitriy" to the list. --204.244.150.7 20:40, 31 May 2006 (UTC)