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I have an idea of reducing the requirements for the WP:US which can be found here: User:Adamdaley/Draft of Article 3 on that talkpage of mine. It reduces the Universities to just placing "|Universities=y", Capital Cities as "|Capital-Cities=y", and Regional Cities as "|Regional-Cities=y" and since I'm doing the ACW having Confederates as "|ACW-CSA=y" US Federal troops as "|ACW-US=y". The last two can be tweaked. Have every state and territory listed. I'm open for suggestions. Adamdaley (talk) 04:22, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

USA

I hope you read this Kumioko. Long ago I made a massive push to get the assessment of USA done, a few bumps threw me off when it never should have. I just read about the attempt at its deletion and was considerably shocked by it. As a result, I am going to finish my assessment work, if you are able to mentor me in tagging and other administrative operations related to the project, I would be very happy. It may be a bit late, if you truly have left, I only discovered the matter today. The desire to maintain and improve Misplaced Pages in its core functions, independent of content, is something that few editors truly desire. It is part of my reason for taking charge in A&M subjects. I simply do not believe editors who contribute nothing to a Wikiproject or are a detriment to the operation should be allowed to determine the fate of anything. By the sweat of your brow untold millions of people have furthered their education because your edits have provided a path for improvements to be made, directly or indirectly. Those who work behind the scenes to operate the play are just as important as those who are on stage. I'll fight like hell to complete the task and make WP:USA's assessment template useful for the international studies by treating it like a textbook. Top, High and Mid should reflect subjects of varying degrees useful to those in general international interest, citizenship and study and a deeper study, respectively. This cannot be done at the state levels, this cannot be done in any other capacity and the operation and maintenance must be done periodically to ensure stability and relevance of the assessment. I believe there is a way to maintain it easily, but I lack some training. Even if you do not get my message, I will continue to do what I can to improve Misplaced Pages. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 17:42, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

Hi ChrisGualtieri, Kumioko hasn't edited for a while, but if you need general help figuring out how to deal with the banner, you can leave a note for me or ask more generally at WT:COUNCIL. The "importance" (or "priority") ratings are important to the WP:1.0 team, so that's another avenue for finding answers to questions you have. From their perspective "Top" means "offline releases should always include this article, no matter how poor it is" and "Low" means "offline releases should almost never include this article unless it's reached FA", and everything else is somewhere in between. My other rule of thumb is that Top-rated articles should be less than 1% of all articles. So those two rules of thumb might help. WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:21, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

One of the problems that led to criticism of the US Wikiproject was the fact that importance ratings assigned by small projects that got adopted by the US WikiProject got propagated up to the US Wikiproject. As a result, pages like Geology of Massachusetts, Hillerich & Bradsby, Mississippi Band of Choctaw Indians, McKinney, Texas, and Texas Tech Red Raiders and Lady Raiders are now incongruously identified as top-level importance for the entire United States. A compounding problem is that, due to the complexity of the nested Wikiproject templates, other users can't always figure out how to correct these things manually. --Orlady (talk) 21:57, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I intend to resolve that issue. Once I finalize a plan, I will make a proposal and treat it in terms of textbook importance with increasing specificity for High and Mid importance ratings. I've already manually removed a bunch of these, but found some that are indeed mid or high level importance. Individual states should be High whereas Culture of the United States is TOP. Somethings like state weather patterns were also in TOP, but this can be maintained with some care so it won't be so bad in the future. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 02:08, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

{{WPMED}} took merged-in projects and new task forces and gave them all their own importance tags, which are separate from the overall project's importance. Do you know if the WPUS banner already set up to accommodate this separation? (I might make the main articles for all 50 states be top-importance, myself, but it's up to you all.) WhatamIdoing (talk) 19:17, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

Yes, WP:US has separate importance tags for the subprojects and sub-sub-projects. However, at some point in the past, if one nested subproject had an importance rating for an article, that rating was automatically propagated to all of the other projects. As a result, pages that are "top" importance for (for example) the Texas Tech project automatically became "top" importance for the entire United States. --Orlady (talk) 19:31, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Bradley Manning/October 2013 move request

Greetings. Because you participated in the August 2013 move request regarding this subject, you may be interested in participating in the current discussion. This notice is provided pursuant to Misplaced Pages:Canvassing#Appropriate notification. Cheers! bd2412 T 21:31, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

Precious again

Medal of Honor
Thank you for quality articles on recipients of the Medal of Honor, for quoting the wisdom "We have known the bitterness of defeat and the exultation of triumph, and from both we have learned there can be no turning back.", applied to an honorable oppose, - repeating: you are an awesome Wikipedian (5 February 2010 and 22 January 2011)!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:47, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

A year ago, you were the 276th recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize, repeated in br'erly style. I include you in those remembered on top of my talk, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:33, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks but after editing for more than 6 years I now look back at the time I spent here as a waste of my time. I appreciate the award, but I wished at this point I would have never started editing. Good luck to you though. Kumioko (talk) 19:40, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for the good wishes, luck needed ;) - I think understand what you mean, but I would not regret what I gave so far. (I was close to leaving four times, once a year, - I knew why I mentioned "bitterness of defeat" a year ago.) - This is no reward, of course, but the memory of a reward, and the memory of the two people who inspired it, missing. Good luck to you for the better things you do now, and thanks for showing up! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:08, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

WP:AN discussion

I have started a discussion about some of your edits at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard#Kumioko socking. Fram (talk) 08:20, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up and since I will be blocked soon. I want you to know and I doubt this will surprise you that I think you are one of the most abusive admins on this site. Your tools should have been revoked long ago and you should have been tossed from the site. You are manipulative, you frequently exhaggerate the facts to suit your own POV and purpose and you are responsible for hundreds of thousands of useful edits not getting done. You are BTW one of the admins I am referring too that should have the tools revoked along with Rschen, Guerrilero, CBM and several others. None of you should be able to Block or protect pages because you all use them abusively. All the other tools are fine though BTW. Guerillero sure as hell shouldn't be on the Arbcom and should be a functionary. I'm glad he and CBM don't do much, the project is better off without them. In the end, you will probably succeed in getting me blocked and you all will be able to continue your cycles of abuse. I recommend targetting User:Koavf next. He has done a lot of editing so he must be doing something wrong. Certainly violating edit rates with AWB. Kumioko (talk) 11:26, 25 October 2013 (UTC)