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Middle Ages did not call younger members of royal families as princes and princesses

please check the ongoing discussion about "princess" title on Talk:Margaret of Connaught - it will have implications that many medieval women will soon get the courtesy prefix "princess" before their names in article names. ObRoy 21:38, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/NKVD massacres of prisoners

Currently references to the NKVD massacres of prisoners have been provided. Would you mind commenting on that or adjusting your vote accordingly? Regards Mieciu K 13:49, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Second Battle of Kharkov

Hi Ghirla,

I noticed you supported the FAC of Second Battle of Kharkov. The article went through a quite serious overhaul and a peer review was requested by the MILHIST project. You're welcome to go there and voice your opinions!

Thanks in advance! -- Grafikm 21:00, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

DYK

On December 25, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Manege Square, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Thank you for your comments in Lar's RfA!

We are here to build an encyclopedia!

Hi Ghirla, and thank you for your supportive comments in my request for adminship! With a final tally of (109/5/1), I have been entrusted with adminship. It's been several weeks since the conclusion of the process, so hopefully you've had a chance to see me in action. Please let me know what you think! I look forward to lots more DYK collaboration! Thanks again, and I will do everything I can to justify the trust you've placed in me! ++Lar: t/c 03:25, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

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Images

A question. Why do you reduce image sizes that I enlarge to provide space blank reduction and better visibility? Are there style reasons? Let me know and good work. Attilios

Bonaparte

See Special:Contributions/Vlachul. —Khoikhoi 18:15, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Blnguyen's RfA

Ivan Kozlovsky

The article links to Russian opera, and is part of the Russian opera project. As far including him under the category of "Russian opera singers", I think that is inappropriate because I don't know of other instances where people have been catagorized by the type of opera they sang as opposed to his background. As far as labeling him Ukrainian in the introduction: that is the only part of the article that lists him as such, other than his place of birth. The rest of the article makes it very clear where his career was spent.--tufkaa 13:14, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

See also questions about such dual listings here--tufkaa 13:30, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Please comment at Talk:Ivan Kozlovsky. This is a problem which needs discussing. - Kleinzach 14:57, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

I was thinking along the same lines in terms of a compromise, but it makes it seem as if his heritage was not important to him. How about was a Ukrainian lyric tenor, one of the great/greatest stars of Soviet Opera, as well a producer and director of his own opera company, and longtime teacher at the Moscow Conservatory.?--tufkaa 15:26, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

I think that "Ukrainian-born Soviet composer" is much better. Let's see what others think. --Ghirla 15:27, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

The Kamenny Island Theatre

Thanks for this improvrmrnt, but there is a contradiction:

The theatre was built in 1826... Two operas of a famous Neapolitan composer Giovanni Paisiello (1740 – 1816), were premiered at Kamenny Ostrov (before this theatre was built):

Il matrimonio inaspettato (La contadina di spirito, 1779 Kamenny Ostrov) Il mondo della luna (1782 Kamenny Ostrov). Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/Kamenny_Island_Theatre" (Meladina 15:28, 30 May 2006 (UTC))

I noticed the discrepancy myself. Not sure how to fix it at the moment. Probably there was another theatre in Kamenny Ostrov before that. --Ghirla 15:32, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Re: Philip Staufen

If you're going to place tags on an article, then you should be discussing them as well. Regarding the categories needed tag, it would take as much trouble to simply place the appropriate category/ies on the page as to place that tag there. As for the notability tag, it would have been far better if you had discussed the matter on the article talk page first before placing the tag. Have you read the article? This man was the subject of a vast amount of media coverage in Canada and around the world, not to mention being the subject of an international search. Television shows were aired about him on three continents. His case is highly unusual in several ways, including the type and degree of amnesia, his possible past, his movements and the legal wrangling concerning his case. What more do you want? I'll be removing the tag shortly unless you have some objection. Exploding Boy 16:38, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Federation of Independent Trade Unions of Russia

Hi Ghirlandajo. I noticed your comment on DYK. I didn't mean to imply that the FNPR is the only trade union center in Russia. I have started articles for both All-Russian Confederation of Labour and Confederation of Labour of Russia as well, although they are both just stubs. Unfortunately my knowledge of Russia is very limited and I'm only working from a few sources. Cheers.--Bookandcoffee 18:28, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

DYK

Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article Sergei Lemeshev, which you recently nominated, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article Ivan Kozlovsky, which you recently nominated, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Image:Ropsha.jpg

Please add an other source than imageshack, where the copyright info can be verified. Thanks. feydey 11:43, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Finland's toponymy

Greetings! You seem to do a fine work on issues Russo-Swedish (with Finland somewhere in between...;). I found this list of Finland's place names which may help you in the future? Best regards, Clarifer 16:25, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

World Heritage Site

Dear Ghirla, the reason for my listing of Val di Noto in the template is to let the names of the cities of it to appear in bold in the article. Otherwise one, in the relative articles, could not understand easily ot which of the listed sites the city belongs. Let me know. User:Attilios

DYK

Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article St. Andrew's Cathedral, St. Petersburg, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

DYK Opera

On June 1, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Opera in Russia in the 18th century, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Sinai

You might like to put Sinai on your watch list . --Philip Baird Shearer 07:37, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

OK. --Ghirla 07:39, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

DYK

On June 2, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article St. Petersburg Bourse, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Could you

Write an article on Konstantin Vasilyev ? His paintings seem interesting. Seeing how much you write about Russia and its culture, do you know anything about him ? --Molobo 21:39, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Russo-Italianata

Now I've had time to think about this:

Image:Berlin Rotes Rathaus 2.jpg Well! There is definitely an Italian influence in the windows, symmetry and machiolations. However, in spite of the series of renaissance round topped windows - the building says to me that it is in the style of German Gothic. Compare the tower with that of the cathedral at Ulm (1377 - 1417) I would even go one step further and say (this is my own opinion) that it was inspired by the 14th century Town Hall and belfry at Bruges - those dominating central towers are a distinctive feature of Belgian Gothic. So basically we have here a building which is predominantly renaissance. with a gothic inspired tower which is too dominating to be ignored. If it can only be in one category I suppose it has to be (because of the windows and symmetry) Category: Renaissance revival and not be too specific. Personally I think it looks like a Victorian crematorium! - pity we can't have a category - Category: German civic architecture of little merit

Now for the other one Image:City duma.jpg. I think we can stay firmly in Italy with this one - look at the tower of Modena Cathedral you can see the Duma's tower in its Romanesque earliest form, and there lies the problem it is more Romanesque and Gothic (pre-Renaissance) than what is generally understood as Italianate. Take a look here at the Palazzo Communale in Bologna - there I feel is the inspiration for the Duma. It was begun in 1287 . I know other people (probably Wetman - will have strong and justfied differing views ), but I am tempted to say Category:Gothic Revival architecture - but I could easily be convinced to change my mind - I've changed it twice writing this - sorry to be not more help. I think we are in the dangerous waters now of which Wetman warned of not applying names and tags to easily. Giano | talk 13:04, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

DYK fixer uppers

Good work on the following noms which were selected, thanks to your fixing the hooks:

Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article Antikythera wreck, which you recently nominated, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article Isaak Dunayevsky, which you recently nominated, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Thanks, as always! ++Lar: t/c 22:55, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Crimean war and emancipation

In the article Emancipation reform of 1861 in Russia it clearly states the following:

The pitiful display by Russian forces in the Crimean War left the government acutely aware of the empire's backwardness. Eager to grow and develop industrially, hence military and political strength, there were a number of economic reforms. As part of this the end of serfdom was considered. It was optimistically hoped that after the abolition the mir would dissolve into individual peasant land owners and the beginnings of a market economy.

So it implies a very direct connection to the the emancipation and the Crimean War.

While the Emancipation may not have been exclusively due to the war, the war was certainly was a contributing factor. Piercetp 04:09, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Anichkov Bridge

Hi Ghirla, I'd like to include the article in the next DYK update. Would you have any objection to the simplified wording I've suggested on the talk page. I agree with Lar that the hook is a bit obscure within the article. I would appreciate your thoughts, thanks. --Cactus.man ✍ 09:15, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure why you're so upset about this, after all you did state "please vet my nom if needed", so somebody did. I just spent half an hour preparing the next update and asked you a courteous question whether you would mind if I used the alternate wording I put on the talk page, hardly a diatribe as you characterise it. (Struck due to cross-posting edit conflict). I agree that there is too much negative commentary appearing on the page now, and you will note that I hardly ever comment on other noms. I occasionally do a minor tweak to the wording and will only ever comment if it is a major departure from the original nomination wording (as in this case), or if there is a technical problem with the nom.

I agree with you about the aims of DYK, and that they should be kept simple and flexible (you might want to have a look at the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know#Requirement_for_referencing, which got somewhat hijacked by referencing hardliners). Yes, selection of items will always be subjective, and that's not a bad thing. The problem I saw with your wording was that it didn't relate clearly to the text of the article which says that "Klodt depicted his powerful enemy's face under the tail of one of the bronze stallions", which is a bit ambiguous. That reads to me that the figure beneath the horse is the horse tamer (but sculpted with the face of Klodt's enemy), rather than the actual enemy in question, OR (unlikely) the face of his enemy was literally sculpted on the horse beneath the tail. I spent a good deal of time trying various rewordings, including mention of his death after discovery of the missing tongues, but couldn't develop anything that read well in relation to the article (IMHO). Hence my simplified version and my initial post here. Please rest assured I was not trying to be difficult or picky, and please do continue your excellent work in writing, finding and nominating new articles such as this. Best wishes. --Cactus.man ✍ 10:30, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Ghirla, no offence was taken. If you're OK with this tweaked wording, I'll go ahead and update shortly:

• ...that the Anichkov Bridge in Saint Petersburg features one of the city's notable landmarks, The Horse Tamer, a group of four neoclassical bronze sculptures by Baron Peter Klodt?

I think it reflects the article content fairly well. --Cactus.man ✍ 11:29, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Looking forward to seeing the article on "this guy Klodt" ... :-) Hopefully it will also make it to DYK. If you have something ready in the next few hours let me know and I can link to it on the DYK template. --Cactus.man ✍ 11:48, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Quick work on Baron Klodt, nice article. I've fixed the link on DYK. --Cactus.man ✍ 15:03, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

DYK

Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article Venus Anadyomene, which you recently nominated, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article Anichkov Bridge, which you recently nominated, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Well, we got there with the wording in the end!!! Keep up the good work Ghirla. --Cactus.man ✍ 12:20, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

DYK talk

Hi Ghirla, I have received a complaint from User:Ukrained about your comments on Template talk:Did you know. I can see there is some history of nationalist related disputes between you, but I know I don't need to remind you of WP:CIVIL and WP:NPA. Please don't let these disputes spread elsewhere and lead you to violate these key policies. --Cactus.man ✍ 15:03, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi Ghirla, I suspected as much from reading some of the history. I had some of that early on in my wiki life and responded with "troll" comments, but in hindsight it really is pointless and is just a "feeding exercise" giving them the attention they need. Dignified restraint is usually much more effective. Your comments on Klodt are also noted, I might just have a look at doing some work on him myself if I can source enough interesting material. --Cactus.man ✍ 15:46, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

This user is trying to claim you "provided deliberately false info" by pointing out that his 3-sentence article is a stub. Even if you count the list, it's still under 1000 bytes. — BRIAN0918 • 2006-06-05 16:32

Oleg of Novgorod

I am pleased with the latest version of the article. I would welcome further well-sourced refutations of the HLGW=Oleg theory. I hope in the future we can cooperate to generate quality material without some of the acrimony of the latest exchanges. Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 19:41, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for yourr advise. (Meladina 23:44, 5 June 2006 (UTC))

DYK

Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article Battle of Levounion, which you recently nominated, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article Bread and salt, which you recently nominated, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Miskolc churches

Hi,

You removed the Gothic Protestant Church of Avas from the Gothic architecture category on May 23. I admit I'm not an expert on architecture, but this church is clearly Gothic in my opinion, and is commonly regarded as Gothic in all sources. The picture in the article may be misleading, since it shows not the church itself but the 16th century belfry. (I couldn't take a decent picture of the church because it is surrounded by trees.) Here are a few googled pictures of the church itself:

Also, I answered to what you wrote on Talk:Greek Orthodox Church and Museum, Miskolc.

regards,

– Alensha 寫 词 15:39, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for restoring the category. I'll try to include some pictures that show the church itself, not only the non-gothic belfry. regards, – Alensha 寫 词 14:33, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

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Repin in Australia?

Could you take a look at this section in which it states that Ilya Repin helped create a Russian Orthodox church in Sydney, Australia in the 1930s? I do not believe that for one moment, but I would like to have a second opinion on that. Большое спасибо, Errabee 22:15, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

DYK

On June 7, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Anichkov Palace, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Peter Klodt von Urgensburg

Hi Ghirla, I'd suggest to put this at Peter Clodt von Jürgensburg or Peter Klodt von Jürgensburg. Since the "von" indicates a German name-version and "Urgensburg" shows low "google approval rates" Best regards --Gf1961 10:58, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

It's OK with me. --Ghirla 10:59, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Completed Translation

You may be interested to know I have completed the translation of Königsberger Schloss to Königsberg Castle. Hope this is to your satisfaction! WilliamH 17:21, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Rurik

Hey Ghirla, it's really a minor thing, but are you sure it's Gorodische? It's OK not to have the Cyrillic, but as far as I know Russian "щ" is usually romanized "shch" and it's very easy to make a typo with such a letter combination, but I'd like to ask first before correcting it. Todor→Bozhinov 19:44, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

I think both ways to transliterate it are OK, but "shch" is preferrable. Thanks for pointing this out. --Ghirla 06:14, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Moving frenzy

Privet. Responded to your post on my talk page. Best, Imladjov 16:29, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Farewell of Slavianka

I reverted the category link to "Russian songs" that you removed - the tune has indeed lyrics for it as shown in Slavianka lyrics. Although it is more known as instrumental, the category "Russian songs" should include a well-known tune such as this one. LHOON 18:43, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

monarchs in contemporary understanding

Have you actually read and understood the article Grand Prince ?? Maed 20:43, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

DYK

Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article Alexander Column, which you recently nominated, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

City templates

Hi, Ghirlandajo! I noticed your dislike for city infoboxes and wanted to ask you if you are opposed to the whole idea of infoboxes in articles on Russian cities/towns, or if you just do not like the implementation the Wikiproject Cities developed. The reason for my asking is that I intend to eventually develop an infobox which would be specific to Russian cities/towns (kind of like a mix of those in Russian Misplaced Pages and {{Federal subject of Russia}}). Would you back me up in this, or do you not want to see those infoboxes at all (if so, why)? I wanted to collect Russian community's ideas before I do that anyway. I was not planning to do it so soon, but if people start adding those ugly generic templates, we'd better have an alternative sooner than later. Thanks.—Ëzhiki (ërinacëus amurënsis) • (yo?); 13:28, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

I disagree that infoboxes are useless, but completely agree that adding them at this point of time in their present form is going to be a mess. The positive side of infoboxes is that they can include information that otherwise simply pollutes the actual article (former names, town status year, jurisdiction, population trends, coordinates, official website, coats of arms (what's wrong with having those, by the way?), etc. etc.). Having all this basic information in one place cleans up the article and allows editors to see immediately if anything is missing—not an easy feat when all this info is scattered around in bits and pieces of text. It also helps determine if the article is indeed an article, or just a long stub with Rambot-like narrative statistics. The down side, of course, is that adding an infobox to the majority of Russian city/town geo-stubs in their present form would leave nothing in the text body, and that the current infobox layout is too generic and contains too much information irrelevant or poorly applicable to Russia. Anyway, if an infobox developed to specifically deal with Russian cities/towns is created, if image layout issues are resolved, and if such a template is added in a way that does not diminish the quality/visual appearance of an article, and if it is only added to the articles that have content covering issues beyond simple stats, would you, well, if not support, but at least be neutral to such an initiative?—Ëzhiki (ërinacëus amurënsis) • (yo?); 13:51, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Yup, that's why I think it's too early at the moment to worry about infoboxes at all. But if WikiProject Cities is going to be an unstoppable tank "requesting" infoboxes to be added left and right, we'd better have an decent Russia-specific infobox that works than one that's ugly, generic, and "for-galochka". I'll try to put something together when I have a moment and announce it on ru-noticeboard for everyone to comment (and they'd better).—Ëzhiki (ërinacëus amurënsis) • (yo?); 14:21, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

DYK

Keeping DYK alive :) If all 6 entries had pictures, I'd be fine with switching them up every couple hours. — BRIAN0918 • 2006-06-09 15:34

• "Superior" is subjective. I only fix grammatical or stylistic problems, and I haven't received one complaint from a nominator about my rewordings. Often, entries get picked despite my complaining about their wording on the talk page, so I choose to fix them if possible. — BRIAN0918 • 2006-06-09 15:44
  • As I said, entries get chosen despite complaints about their wording. And I believe most nominators know how to check the history of the template page to see who wrote the words that appear in the template. — BRIAN0918 • 2006-06-09 15:55

DYK

On June 10, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Maria Pavlovna of Russia, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article Moscow Triumphal Gates, which you recently nominated, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Jean-Baptiste Alexandre Le Blond

I've translated the French Misplaced Pages article and expanded it slightly, pursuing my garden history binge today. Please vet it, since this is your Saint Petersburg territory I'm infringing upon here! --Wetman 08:41, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Coup d'etat

Please, help to add interwiki link for ru:Эпоха дворцовых переворотов. It's article of a newbie in Russian Misplaced Pages, and I want to make it non-orphan. --ajvol 16:59, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Tverskaya Street

Andrey, thanks for you edits to the article on Tverskaya Street. I checked out your personal page and was amazed at the fact that you are actually from Yaroslavl. How come you speak English so well? The number of articles you started or contributed to is really astonishing! http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Denghu 18:08, 12 June 2006 (UTC)