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: Need some sources that call these "massacres". It's neither my opinion or yours that counts here. --] (]) 03:34, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
: Need some sources that call these "massacres". It's neither my opinion or yours that counts here. --] (]) 03:34, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
:: Need some sources that call these massacres "defeats". You seem to be pretty keen on imposing your revisionist opinion on the article. Given that our own article on one of them calls it a "massacre" seems to put you in the awkward position of quite obviously pushing a POV. ] (]) 04:27, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
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Please do not try to revise history. When a group of soldiers enter a village and murder everyone they find, they are not "defeating" them, they are "massacring" them. I'd accept "killed" or something similar, but implying a full military engagement is unacceptable for well-attested massacres (largely of women and children and infirm, elderly warriors). Grace Note (talk) 02:47, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
Need some sources that call these massacres "defeats". You seem to be pretty keen on imposing your revisionist opinion on the article. Given that our own article on one of them calls it a "massacre" seems to put you in the awkward position of quite obviously pushing a POV. Grace Note (talk) 04:27, 3 December 2013 (UTC)