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Revision as of 18:16, 14 June 2006 editA. B. (talk | contribs)Extended confirmed users, Page movers, IP block exemptions, New page reviewers, Pending changes reviewers, Rollbackers51,775 edits Repeatedly removing warnings should lead to blocks and/or talk page protection, even in the absence of other ongoing disputes: concur← Previous edit Revision as of 18:16, 14 June 2006 edit undoA. B. (talk | contribs)Extended confirmed users, Page movers, IP block exemptions, New page reviewers, Pending changes reviewers, Rollbackers51,775 edits The recipient should ask an admin to remove it: concurNext edit →
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This proposed poll is currently under construction. Please do not vote, but feel free to edit it, discuss it on talk, or otherwise try to improve it.


Users are often issued warning messages when someone feels they are engaging in conduct which is outside the bounds of policy or good behavior. Such messages can take the form of both warning templates (such as {{test3}}, {{civil1}}, {{npa}}) as well as personalized complaints. User page sockpuppet notices can also qualify as warnings, for the purposes of this poll.

In January, a user added

Removing warnings: Removing vandalism warnings from one's talk page is also considered vandalism.

to WP:VAND. This statement and ones like it have subsequently been added, removed, and modified many times in the last several months to both WP:VAND and WP:TALK. This topic has also served as a persistent topic of discussion in several places()

This poll aims to provide a definitive resolution to the issue of how warning messages should be treated by surveying community feeling as broadly as possible.

Vandalism warnings

This section deals with users removing vandalism warnings placed on their talk page. It is assumed below that creating a proper archive is not a form of deletion.

Please indicate the statement you most agree with by adding #~~~~ at the bottom of the relevant section.

Deleting valid vandalism warnings is always wrong

  1. A. B. 18:13, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Deleting valid, recently given vandalism warnings is wrong

Deleting valid vandalism warnings related to ongoing disputes is wrong

Deleting valid vandalism warnings is discouraged but should be tolerated

Deleting valid vandalism warnings is acceptable if (and only if) the user stops vandalising

Non-vandalism warnings

This section deals with users removing warnings for behaviors others than vandalism (i.e. violations of WP:CIV, WP:NPA, etc). It is assumed below that creating a proper archive is not a form of deletion.

Please indicate the statement you most agree with by adding #~~~~ at the bottom of the relevant section.

Deleting other valid warnings is always wrong

  1. A. B. 18:14, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Deleting valid, recently given warnings for other behavior is wrong

Deleting other valid warnings related to ongoing disputes is wrong

Deleting other valid warnings is discouraged but should be tolerated

Deleting warnings is acceptable if the user stops behaving in the manner that led to the warning being given

Immediate response to the inappropriate deletion of warnings

This section deals with how one should immediately respond when you see someone inappropriately removing warnings from their talk page. It is presumed that the responder has verified that the warning was reasonable.

Please indicate the statement you most agree with by adding #~~~~ at the bottom of the relevant section.

The warning should always be restored and an additional warning about removing warnings added

  1. A. B. 18:15, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Restore the warning only if the user is engaged in other disruptive behavior

Restore the warning only if the user is continuing the same behavior that got them warned initially

A warning about removing warnings should be given but the original need not be restored

Issue additional warnings when and if appropriate, but do not try to restore warnings that a user has deleted

Response to repeatedly removing warnings

This section deals with how one should response to a user that repeatedly removes warnings in a way that is inappropriate.

Please indicate the statement you most agree with by adding #~~~~ at the bottom of the relevant section.

Repeatedly removing warnings should lead to blocks and/or talk page protection, even in the absence of other ongoing disputes

  1. A. B. 18:16, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Repeatedly removing warnings is a negative factor that may affect the issuing of other blocks, but is not in itself justification for blocking

Repeatedly removing warnings should be addressed through the dispute resolution process

Repeatedly removing warnings should be ignored

Inappropriate warnings

This deals with how a user should respond when they believe they have recieved an inappropriate warning.

Please indicate the statement you most agree with by adding #~~~~ at the bottom of the relevant section.

The recipient may always remove it themselves

The recipient may remove it themselves provided they explain why in the edit summary or other discussion

The recipient should ask a third party to remove it

The recipient should ask the warning giver to remove it

The recipient should ask an admin to remove it

  1. A. B. 18:16, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Disputed warnings should not be removed