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:No infrastructure planning should be considered a sub-discipline. Technical urban planners work in infrastructure planning. They develop systemwide plans, create political consensus, arrange funding sources and write the scope of large complex projects (an example would be a development plan for a light rail line). They also analyze entire systems of public infrastructure and determine systemwide needs and maintenance. Civil engineers and electrical systems engineers play a very pivotal role in infrastructure planning as well and are traditionally considered the other major players in infrastructure planning as they pull projects into the other stages of program delivery. Infrastructure planning is also related to urban design and architecture. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 00:10, 14 September 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | :No infrastructure planning should be considered a sub-discipline. Technical urban planners work in infrastructure planning. They develop systemwide plans, create political consensus, arrange funding sources and write the scope of large complex projects (an example would be a development plan for a light rail line). They also analyze entire systems of public infrastructure and determine systemwide needs and maintenance. Civil engineers and electrical systems engineers play a very pivotal role in infrastructure planning as well and are traditionally considered the other major players in infrastructure planning as they pull projects into the other stages of program delivery. Infrastructure planning is also related to urban design and architecture. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 00:10, 14 September 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | ||
==Global urban planning== | |||
Currently, there is no world map made for urban planning on a global level. | |||
Urban planning on a global level (across countries) would be advisable as that would allow to inform states on how to best move people (out of less developed zones with lush rainforests, biodiversity hotspots to regions that are allready developed and have little biodiversity anymore). It would also be advisable to do so in the interest of improving transport, supply of food, production of food (the people "solve" this by cutting down trees and converting the | |||
forest into cleared land), energy, ... | |||
The map can be made by cross comparing following maps: | |||
http://www.earthenginepartners.appspot.com/ | |||
http://en.wikipedia.org/File:Population_density_with_key.png | |||
http://www.populationlabs.com/maps/World_Population_Map.png | |||
http://go.grolier.com/atlas?id=mtlr084&tn=/atlas/printerfriendly.html | |||
For example, it would be best to move the people to grasslands/steppes, savannas, ... which have a far lower biodiversity, and also have richer soil, meaning less fertilisation is | |||
required. | |||
In some instances, it may be even better to move people to other | |||
countries (with a different vegetation), rather than simply move them | |||
to more populated zones within the country. This, as they could then | |||
also continue their profession (ie farming). Countries to where the | |||
people would immigrate could | |||
* drop their minimum wages (optional, useful as it can increase | |||
revenue for country of destination) | |||
* drop all restrictions for immigrants (ie permits to stay) | |||
* pay the expenses to move the people into their country from a | |||
different country (possible as the person, over his lifetime, would | |||
generate a lot more revenue than the expense of the transport). | |||
For the people themselves, it is also attractive as: | |||
* they may attain a far higher wage for the same job | |||
* there may be a better system of social security in their new country | |||
Obviously, the people that would be moved would be people in forest | |||
land with high biodiversity, in specific targeting areas where | |||
population densities are still relatively low yet are beginning to | |||
rise, and where the infrastructure/urbanization is still relatively | |||
unadvanced. Some examples: if you cross compare the maps in annex, | |||
you'll see that for example in borneo, as well as in thailand, Brazil, | |||
Myanmar, ... there are areas that are beginning to have population in | |||
relatively low-populated zones; these people could be moved to more | |||
populated zones within the country, ... | |||
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Infrastructure planning
Should this redirect here? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 17:47, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
- No infrastructure planning should be considered a sub-discipline. Technical urban planners work in infrastructure planning. They develop systemwide plans, create political consensus, arrange funding sources and write the scope of large complex projects (an example would be a development plan for a light rail line). They also analyze entire systems of public infrastructure and determine systemwide needs and maintenance. Civil engineers and electrical systems engineers play a very pivotal role in infrastructure planning as well and are traditionally considered the other major players in infrastructure planning as they pull projects into the other stages of program delivery. Infrastructure planning is also related to urban design and architecture. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.24.181.239 (talk) 00:10, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
Global urban planning
Currently, there is no world map made for urban planning on a global level. Urban planning on a global level (across countries) would be advisable as that would allow to inform states on how to best move people (out of less developed zones with lush rainforests, biodiversity hotspots to regions that are allready developed and have little biodiversity anymore). It would also be advisable to do so in the interest of improving transport, supply of food, production of food (the people "solve" this by cutting down trees and converting the forest into cleared land), energy, ...
The map can be made by cross comparing following maps: http://www.earthenginepartners.appspot.com/ http://en.wikipedia.org/File:Population_density_with_key.png http://www.populationlabs.com/maps/World_Population_Map.png http://go.grolier.com/atlas?id=mtlr084&tn=/atlas/printerfriendly.html
For example, it would be best to move the people to grasslands/steppes, savannas, ... which have a far lower biodiversity, and also have richer soil, meaning less fertilisation is required.
In some instances, it may be even better to move people to other countries (with a different vegetation), rather than simply move them to more populated zones within the country. This, as they could then also continue their profession (ie farming). Countries to where the people would immigrate could
- drop their minimum wages (optional, useful as it can increase
revenue for country of destination)
- drop all restrictions for immigrants (ie permits to stay)
- pay the expenses to move the people into their country from a
different country (possible as the person, over his lifetime, would generate a lot more revenue than the expense of the transport). For the people themselves, it is also attractive as:
- they may attain a far higher wage for the same job
- there may be a better system of social security in their new country
Obviously, the people that would be moved would be people in forest land with high biodiversity, in specific targeting areas where population densities are still relatively low yet are beginning to rise, and where the infrastructure/urbanization is still relatively unadvanced. Some examples: if you cross compare the maps in annex, you'll see that for example in borneo, as well as in thailand, Brazil, Myanmar, ... there are areas that are beginning to have population in relatively low-populated zones; these people could be moved to more populated zones within the country, ...
80.200.225.169 (talk) 09:23, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
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