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| :::Finally, shows the IP editor has at least read this talk page. Now '''''PLEASE DISCUSS THE ISSUES'''''. - ] (]) 03:19, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | :::Finally, shows the IP editor has at least read this talk page. Now '''''PLEASE DISCUSS THE ISSUES'''''. - ] (]) 03:19, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | ||
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| ::::I have also removed the album cover, per ], as explained above. Please do not restore the image without providing a "fair use" rationale on the image page. (Please note that images of living individuals are considered to be replaceable unless it can be demonstrated that the person is a recluse (we're talking ] level, not merely celebrities who keep low profiles).) | |||
| ::::The rest of the problematic material: bad sources, typos, unexplained claims, etc., I am leaving in place for discussion. If no such discussion is forthcoming, I will revert the changes for the reasons outlined above in a few days. - ] (]) 03:32, 16 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
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Reverting to an old version
This edit] by 65.205.13.26 reverts to an earlier version of the article without explaining why. It has numerous errors.
- Changes the section heading "Early life" to "Early Life", against our Manual of Style.
- Changes "...raised her family on the income..." to "...raised her family on he income..."
- Restores the source Yahoo voices]. This is effectively a forum posting and is not a reliable source per WP:SPS. Further, it adds material based on the unacceptable source.
- Adds ages to the phrase "George, his 16 year old daughter Jennifer; Perri and her 2 year old daughter Ashley..." contrary to the source cited. Additionally, it is providing otherwise unpublished personal information on children who are incidental to the topic, contrary to WP:BLPPRIVACY.
- Changes the section heading "Early career" to "Early Career", against our Manual of Style.
- Changes "1981" to "the early 1980s" when the source cited plainly says 1981.
- Changes "Her former husband and boss George L.Smith bankrolled her career by putting up $80,000 for her demo tape and music video to 'Mercedes Boy'." to "Her boss...", contrary to... OH MY GOD! This is almost right. The source says "Finding work in an Oakland, Calif., real estate office, Pebbles met contractor George L. Smith, who in 1985 put up $80,000 to bankroll her second assault on the music world. The result was a demo tape and the video for "Mercedes Boy"—a shimmering single about an autoerotic female driver—and a contract with MCA. Pebbles and Smith, who is 20 years her senior, married soon after." They were not yet married, so removing "former husband" is correct. However, the source does not say "boss", "bankrolled her career" is rather strong: he bankrolled the demo tape and video. Why we don't say that this resulted in her contract with MCA is a puzzle.
Long story short, I am reverting the change again and changing the "Her former husband and boss..." section to better reflect the source. As the IP editor in question seems to revert large numbers of changes rather than edit, this might be a problem. - SummerPhD (talk) 18:11, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
- Restored again with the claim "yahoo and its blog are credible." Two problems here: You restored ALL of the errors listed above and no, a blog on Yahoo (not "yahoo's blog") is not a reliable source. "Stephanie Modkins" wrote this. If you'd like, you can start your own "Yahoo voices" blog and tell us that the universe is really a simulation running on a god's cellphone. You cannot, however, then cite that as a reliable source. So who is "Stephanie Modkins"? Well, you can read everything there is to know about her here. I do not see anything included there that indicates she is a reliable source. If you disagree, please take the issue to the Reliable sources/Noticeboard.
- If you feel there is a reason to restore all of the errors in the edit, please explain. Thanks. - SummerPhD (talk) 22:21, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
- This edit restores all of the problems discussed above.
- This edit adds a copyrighted album cover as a photo for a living person in violation of WP:NFCC. (Essentially, we cannot use a copyrighted photo of a living person, except in very limited circumstances that do not apply here.)
- This edit adds unsourced quotes and restores an unsourced husband, again.
- This edit restores an unsourced contentious claim about a living person (in violation of WP:BLP) concerning a supposed "scandal". It also restores a database search results as a source for another marriage. Search results are not a reliable source (see WP:IRS).
- This edit adds unsourced info (a full name) for a daughter. As explained with the ages, above, this is a WP:BLP issue.
- Finally, this edit shows the IP editor has at least read this talk page. Now PLEASE DISCUSS THE ISSUES. - SummerPhD (talk) 03:19, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
- I have removed the WP:BLP issues. Please do NOT restore them without achieving consensus that the information is reliably sourced. You may wish to take the issue to the Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard. Restoring this information with poor sourcing may result in you being blocked from editing Misplaced Pages.
- I have also removed the album cover, per WP:NFCC, as explained above. Please do not restore the image without providing a "fair use" rationale on the image page. (Please note that images of living individuals are considered to be replaceable unless it can be demonstrated that the person is a recluse (we're talking Howard Hughes level, not merely celebrities who keep low profiles).)
- The rest of the problematic material: bad sources, typos, unexplained claims, etc., I am leaving in place for discussion. If no such discussion is forthcoming, I will revert the changes for the reasons outlined above in a few days. - SummerPhD (talk) 03:32, 16 January 2014 (UTC)