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Carl Sagan

" Hello, I'm Gilliam. Misplaced Pages is written by people who have a wide diversity of opinions, but we try hard to make sure articles have a neutral point of view. Your recent edit to Carl Sagan seemed less than neutral to me, so I removed it for now. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page."

I"m not sure how to use this page, so I hope I'm responding correctly. You are of course correct in that the integrity of Misplaced Pages, a very good source of information, relies on the knowledge that the source material is neutral. Many things are empirical, and many things are a matter of opinion. Certainly your point about my edit to Carl Sagan is valid. I did however, feel that someone like Sagan was so universally revered, so magnificent, wonderful, inspiring, and influential, that we could reasonably say it was a properly basic truth that he deserves the title "The Great." It's a debatable matter. But some things are so clearly universal, they appear past the realm of opinion and enter the realm of true ethical knowledge. "Murder is wrong" is an example of a statement that we cannot prove, that we might say is opinion, but everyone of normal moral architecture agrees with. Was Carl Sagan worthy of "The Great?" While opinion, I feel it is not too dissimilar from the statement above. Maybe it isn't something we ought to put on an encyclopedia page. But I still wanted to try, so that the world could come to know how wonderful he was.

^ That was the best paragraph I have ever read. Well done Sir. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.148.149.153 (talk) 13:36, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Edwin T. Earl

Hi. Would you be able to add Edwin T. Earl's picture in the external link to wiki commons and to his page? Thanks.Zigzig20s (talk) 09:53, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Popular/People´s party

Hi Gilliam, basiclly, is not correct the translation, in spanish "People" is "Gente", and "Popular", is "Popular". If the party name is "Popular Party" I think that is more correct than "El Partido de la gente", that is the meaning of "People´s Party". Thanks.

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Please notice ip 111.243.0.198 , 114.39.7.129

Hi , Please notice, ip user 111.243.0.198 and ip 114.39.7.129 https://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/111.243.0.198 , https://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/114.39.7.129, Vandalism a lot of articles , please stop these ip user , thank youMBINISIDLERS (talk) 08:53, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

It appears they're not vandalising per se but reverting. Please see WP:AN3 if you feel they have, for example, violated the WP:3RR rule. Cordially, Gilliam (talk) 08:57, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Carneal/Elmwood

Check NRIS, which is available in Misplaced Pages-formatted form at http://www2.elkman.net/nrhp/infobox.php. Go there and put the reference number, 72000541, into the lower form field. You get the following data:

Name: Elmwood Hall
Location: 244-246 Forrest Ave.
Ludlow, KY
Year of construction: 1818
Date added: August 7, 1972
Governing body: Private 
Architect: Carneal, Thomas
Architecture: No Style Listed
Other names: Thomas Carneal House 
Historic function: Domestic
Historic subfunction: Single Dwelling
Criteria: architecture/engineering
Number of acres: 9
Number of contributing buildings: 1

NRIS does make errors, but it would be the extreme situation if all of the NRIS data were wrong. Rather, I would suggest that the article is conflating two separate houses. Look at the Ludlow house's National Register nomination form; it notes that Carneal constructed the house in 1818, two years after he'd built Covington's first brick residence. With all of the documentation given by the nomination form, I'm confident of the NRIS data, and I'm rather inclined to strip out all information related to and derived from the National Register documentation, on the grounds that it's about a different house entirely. Do you agree, or do you think a different action is better? Nyttend (talk) 12:37, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Two additional things. (1) I overlooked your second comment in which you've already wondered if two separate houses are conflated. (2) See entry ky0079 from the US government's Historic American Buildings Survey. It's unambiguously in Ludlow, and File:Elmwood Hall entrance.jpg is definitely not the same image as this one from Cincinnati Memory. Let's just delete the NR-related information from this article, since its subject is not NR-listed. Nyttend (talk) 12:47, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

And...yet more information. The house on Second is NR-listed, but not by itself. It's the first contributing property mentioned (see page 2) in the ridiculously short and generally unhelpful nomination form for the Riverside Drive Historic District (a district like this, if listed today, would get far more extensive documentation; see the 170 megabyte nomination for the 2013-listed Sadieville HD near Georgetown, Scott County; it's 110 pages for a district that's overall much less significant!), and that document unambiguously supports a bunch of what's in the article, including the construction year and the Palladian influences. Nyttend (talk) 12:57, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Now I'm seeing your latest comment. I'd advise against covering both houses in the same article, largely because it could be almost as confusing as the current situation. The house in Ludlow is definitely notable and can stand to have its own house. It definitely looks as if the house in Covington is notable, but if you're uncomfortable with having a separate article on it by itself, we could merge it into the Riverside Drive HD article. I don't think that much work is needed — we'd overload the Riverside Drive article with this one, especially since we apparently have some yet-unused coverage in the Guide to the Queen City and Its Neighbors. Let's just remove the errors that I introduced into the Covington house's article and replace them with a special contributing property infobox, comparable to the one at Salem United Church of Christ in Over the Rhine. The coding is a little weird, but I'll be happy to add the infobox myself if you think that the right course. Nyttend (talk) 13:07, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Old infobox deleted and new infobox added. Is this the house located at the southeastern corner of Second and Kennedy? Google Maps placed me there when I typed in the address, and it looks somewhat like it on Street View, but I'm not sure. Please fix the coordinates if it's actually located at a different place. Aside from that, I think we're done, aside from your photo. Please remember to add it to Commons:Category:Historic districts in Kentucky, Commons:Category:National Register of Historic Places in Kenton County, Kentucky, and the construction year categories as well as the obvious ones for Covington, architectural style, and brick houses in Kentucky. Nyttend (talk) 13:25, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! Now...since you've been up since at least 2AM, go to bed :-) Nyttend (talk) 13:33, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

See Elmwood Hall (Ludlow, Kentucky). Nyttend (talk) 23:51, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Interesting link, and thank you. I've long wondered why they designated two of the district's buildings as an NHL and delisted the original listing, but now that I see that the Aviary was destroyed and that the cabin was moved away, I'm beginning to understand why the original listing was removed. Would you be able to come up with a source for its removal to Sharonville, which I could add to the zoo structures article? I haven't visited the zoo since my grandfather took me there circa 2000, so I wasn't aware that it had existed at the zoo, let alone wondering about its current location. Nyttend (talk) 13:40, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks; I'll add it immediately. I didn't even know where to look; I didn't want to use something from the village itself (see the history of its article; they've been spamming us!), and all of my normal sources are either printed books or other hard scholarly or governmental sources that don't generally mention this kind of thing. Nyttend (talk) 14:17, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Manav Bhardwaj

Hi Gilliam,

Thank You for your message but I did not make any changes to Pilkhwa (or whatever it is)!!

Thanks,

Manav — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.112.129.194 (talk) 12:16, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Help stop this!

Hi, thanks for looking at https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Washington_Court_House,_Ohio -- someone keeps deleting Fayette Advocate under "media" and Derek Myers under "notables" even after sources have been given. I believe they dislike Myers so that's why they keep deleting it. Please help stop this! It's just an IP address, no user ID. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leavewikifactsalone (talk • contribs) 08:58, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

URGENT VANDALISM TO FLO RIDA WIKI PAGE

Hello, Some vandalist removed all mentions of FLO RIDA song for charity BOOTY ON THE FLOOR he did with Marc Mysterio. Can this edit be reverted as it was highly publicized and well sourced.

Can you please go back to a previous version of FLO RIDA page from august 2013 and re-add these well sourced info on the song and release? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.107.8.27 (talk) 20:48, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

Your opinion, please

Asking you since you're seemingly the only other person writing on Cincinnati topics. National Register of Historic Places listings in Cincinnati, Ohio, with 245 locations, is currently divided into four chunks: downtown (50 locations), eastern (98 locations), northern (57 locations), and western (41 locations); northern is set off by a complicated group of lines, while the division between east and west is Vine Street, so Over-the-Rhine appears in both east and west. What would you think of getting rid of the northern section, leaving all non-downtown sites either in eastern or western? Judging by this map, I think we'd end up with 43 of the 57 northern locations going into western; this would make our totals 50 downtown, 112 eastern, and 84 western. I'm thinking of doing this because it would be more natural than the current system, while it would give us greater balance than the current setup, in which eastern has almost twice as many as any of the others. FYI, the current northern boundary is "all of the city north of a line running along Interstate 74 from the city's western edge to Interstate 75, south to Martin Luther King Dr., east to Interstate 71, and north to the city's eastern edge", while eastern and western are basically " of Vine Street, north of downtown, and south of Northern". I suppose that my revision would have eastern and western being basically " of Vine Street, north of downtown". Nyttend (talk) 22:45, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your kind words; as I live in Bloomington IN and have had family connections in the area since the 1950s, it's not been very hard to make the trip rather often, and I have more interest in metro Cincinnati than in Ohio's other major metro areas. On top of that, substub cleanup is a priority for us at WP:NRHP, and thanks to NrhpBot, Hamilton and Butler Counties have a far higher percentage of these substubs than in the other 86 counties. <warning: very long comment coming> Thanks also for your input on the list splitup, but I have to disagree more with your proposal than with the current setup. Over-the-Rhine only has 14 locations (9 eastern and 6 western in the current setup) if you include Pendleton; the thing is that almost 100% of the neighborhood, on both sides of Vine (and thus on both lists right now), is part of the same NR-listed district. If we'd split the city into western/central/eastern, I'd say that the best division would be I-74 east to I-75 and south (everything south/west of this is Western) and I-71 south to I-471 (everything south/east of this is Eastern), with the residue being Central. This would give us the following breakdown:

• Downtown: all 50 would go into central
• Eastern: 25 would go into central/74 would go into eastern
• Northern: all 57 would go into central
• Western: 17 would go into central/24 would go into western
• Remove one current Eastern/Western duplicate, Over-the-Rhine HD, which would go into Central

The result would be 148 Central, 74 Eastern, and 24 Western, which in my eyes would be worse than the current setup. I'm still in favor of moving the Northern locations into Eastern and Western because that would balance out the numbers better. Besides the issue of finding a better dividing line to balance out the numbers, I'm wanting to use the current downtown boundaries for one list and Vine for two others, because it's more in line with how we commonly split National Register lists for a city too big to have one list. (1) We normally have a separate downtown list when warranted, e.g. Denver, and (2) although I was unaware of the cultural divide that you mention via Borgman, I was wanting to use it because our lists commonly try to use major streets/highways for dividing points, simply because they're easy for both locals and out-of-towners to follow. I figured Vine would be easy for everyone since it's the dividing point for east/west street addresses, with the added bonus of balancing out the numbers better. Nyttend (talk) 14:39, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Tsunami fish

On 5 January 2014, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Tsunami fish, which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that the tsunami fish (pictured) drifted thousands of miles on a ghost ship wrecked by the 2011 Tōhoku earthquake and tsunami before being discovered on the coast of Washington? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Tsunami fish. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 00:02, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Hunter Moore

Looks like you ticked the wrong box and set the article to template editor. -- John Reaves 02:46, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing that out.  Done- Gilliam (talk) 02:48, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

What was wrong with it

What was wrong with it ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:E:1980:532:EC60:D11B:BD29:B4A9 (talk) 02:20, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Good work on Kentucky

I am back from a Wiki break, self imposed of course, I wanted to great work on the KY County pages!Coal town guy (talk) 15:48, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Neighborcity article

User Gilliam, I have a good rating on the real etate information website and app, Neighborcity, so I'm not inclined to edit the article because of my potential tie to the entity. NeighborCity is also in a landmark antitrust lawsuit with the National Association of Realtors and the Multiple Listing Service that realtors post real estate ads to. This subject deserves coverage when people search for the NeighborCity lawsuit because it impacts the one and a half million real estate agents, brokers and commercial agents of which I am one, and then the millions of homebuyers each year who are likely to be impacted if the association ends up with evaluations and ratings of all of its member-brokers and agents.

If there is a problem with the litigation section, or other sections of this page, then why not fix it? If a salaried marketing assistant or intern at the company or a hired person wrote the article in the first place, write over their work like the last 12 months of editors have. I saw the link User Rybec posted, and it doesn't look like the page creator was actually blocked until months after the article was created. I'd like to see increased interest in the Neighborcity lawsuit, not less.~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.182.119.244 (talk) 18:06, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Stanford Open Source Lab

Hi.

You had not supplied an edit summary for your revert in Stanford Open Source Lab article and I couldn't find a reason as to why you did it. To me, User:Dannysnewser5722's edit was a good faith effort to establish consistency between the sentence fragments that some began with lowercase (e.g. " a mirror for base Linux distributions") and some with uppercase (e.g. "Web-based groupware"). He could have done it the other way around; I'd have certainly done it that way. But nevertheless, per MOS:STABILITY, it is a non-trivial edit treated on a first-in, first-served basis.

But a revert against the consistency? Well, I'd it definitely needs an edit summary.

Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 03:54, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

I suppose you're right. However, Dannynewser5722 is vandalizing pages in cahoots with IPs here which made me suspicious of all of his recent edits.- Gilliam (talk) 03:56, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

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Douglas City, California

Greetings! Your edit to Douglas City, California inspired me to type in the contents of my file on the history of that town this morning. I'd appreciate it if you could take a look through it and see if there is any grammar to fix, or citations to polish and advise. Thank you! Ellin Beltz (talk) 18:11, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

Talkback

you wrote a comment about my edit revealing the fabricated story about "Eternity". you have a large group of editors at Misplaced Pages, so i suggest one of you check the verifiability of the original claims made in the article. you will discover that although many stories about "Eternity" were published in the British Press, not one of them is true. The company alleged to have sold "Eternity" does not exist, and never did. Misplaced Pages, like the press and many of its readers, have been conned. It may be that Monckton suffers from Munchausen Syndrome, or he is simply a criminal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.162.25.123 (talk) 08:15, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Talkback

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My edit on Ahinsa

Hello Gilliam, I removed redirect on this page with an intention for further action, but could not do so. I asked for help from another admin (check this). Since you are on it, can you please help me? Thanks, Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 16:41, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

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	Thanks for your quick revert on Akkineni Nageswara Rao....you gave me two edit conflicts! Much appreciated ƬheStrikeΣagle 06:52, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Request for assistance

Hello! I have a problem with an editor who keeps removing a legitimate template at Lajos Kossuth article. I've added Template:Refimprove because, as it can be easily seen, there are many paragraphs without any source. However, this editor removed it 4 times, without giving any valid reason (only "vandalism" and "rv vandalism'). The most confusing fact is that he added the same template at Avram Iancu article: , using my edit summary at Lajos Kossuth article ("many passages are unsourced"). 86.127.27.11 (talk) 09:05, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for your help 86.127.27.11 (talk) 09:14, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Comment request

Hi. Would you care to comment at this post? It is about the infobox for an album article and its "cover" and "released" field. Dan56 (talk) 09:43, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Talkback

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Wenderoth

Thank you for protecting Frederick August Wenderoth! I don't understand why the image of the infobox doesn't show since then, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:11, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

To make it more mysterious: I edited, adding the pic, that edit doesn't show in the history (probably because nothing changed) but now I see the image again?? Cache problem? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:16, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

That might be the problem, press Control + F5 at the same time. Or try to log out and log back in. The image appears clearly to me.- Gilliam (talk) 16:21, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

The image appears clearly to me, but I certainly saw only the filename before (before making the edit described). When I looked at the article before - a few hours ago - I also certainly saw the image, that should have been my "last version" cached. - I noticed something similar before when I filled a red link by an article, looked where it links and still saw it red there, but linking, - turning blue when I made an edit. I didn't observe such a thing before 2014 - or don't remember ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:15, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Sarantel plc

Gilliam,

I'm trying to have this http://en.wikipedia.org/Sarantel page deleted. Sorry as a new comer to doing anything other than reading a wiki pages, I do not know the right etiquette.

I've been asked by one of the company's new directors to have the page removed as Sarantel has undergone a few changes and no longer requires / wishes to have a wiki page.

On the 8th November 2013 the company proposed it revised investing policy (i.e. moving away from design/manufacture of electronic components).

On the 25th November 2013 the company's shareholders agreed to this change in investing policy.

On the 5th December 2013 the company changed it's name to UK Oil & Gas Investments plc.

The rest of the company history can be found on it's website www.ukogplc.com. This can also be independently verified by using the London Stock Exchange website and reviewing the various RNS

Kind regards,

Dushan 217.13.156.204 (talk) 17:10, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Cardiology

Hello Gilliam, a pleasure we are in contact. My name is Eder, I have 27 years, I'm a physician- surgeon, lives in the last year of internal medicine and next to start the specialty of cardiology at the National Institute of Cardiology Ignacio Chavez, in the city of Mexico , supported by the UNAM . Recent changes I made in the field of cardiology at wikipedia are aiming to update the information to the general public about this subspecialty in Mexico because it is indirect entry after performing the studies Internal Medicine (specializing in elsewhere in Spain as it is direct entry ) . The two points are very simple, and unlike its timely review , I think is constructive in the field of renovation . Due to increasing advances in cardiology , especially in interventional surgery ( pinhole surgery ) , this field is focused on the management of heart disease so health ( medicines ) , surgery ( surgery such as pacemakers or defibrillators implanted ) and surgical interventional ( surgeries such as angioplasty with stenting , cardiac ablation of atrial fibrillation, transcatheter aortic valve implantation , implantation of Amplatzer , among others ) . Therefore . 1. Cardiology and Electrophysiology is a surgical medical specialty Two . Interventional cardiology is a surgical specialty This is now , however I must add that it is both the growth in these branches of cardiology, the minimally invasive surgery in the not too distant future , 5-10 years, the treatment of choice in most pathologies due the increased life expectancy of people worldwide (as with vascular surgery that initially most were open later most is endovascular surgery). Leave some links . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvQpJQHAwKk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWmLU8A9vXk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p81KoA8kgvg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLNsAxEgSNI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4GBJooCf1c I appreciate your attention, if there is any doubt or clarification we can keep in touch with the primary objective of getting updated and quality information . No more for now as a last comment , I have little experience in publishing in Misplaced Pages , I would like to help me wikificar , or make my own page about three topics that interest me: 1 . Cardiology , 2. Interventional cardiology . Y 3 . Electrophysiology I have all the available and could support these topics that interest me , and in advance I apologize if my remarks on these issues bothered the author , however this is now , and always the information should try to be as current as possible , especially in medical issues daily progress . 1. Cardiology and Electrophysiology is a surgical medical specialty Two . Interventional cardiology is a surgical specialty attentively Dr. Eder Jaimes R4MI HGDMGG Dr. Eder Jaimes (talk) 16:20, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Chris Bailey (musician)

Hello, I'm Gilliam. An edit that you recently made to Chris Bailey (musician) seemed to be a test and has been removed. If you want more practice editing, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks! Gilliam (talk) 17:48, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

My edit was not a test, but added eight words to clarify the disambiguation between two rock musicians of the same name and same nationality. Noting just the nationality is not sufficient disambiguation. 101.112.6.101 (talk) 18:02, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

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Swami page

Thanks for reverting that. I must have accidently deleted those items on the bottom. Onel5969 (talk) 14:38, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

1. http://irservices.netbuilder.com/ir/ukog/newsArticle.php?id=1056321&ST=UKOG
2. http://irservices.netbuilder.com/ir/ukog/newsArticle.php?id=1067520&ST=UKOG
3. http://irservices.netbuilder.com/ir/ukog/newsArticle.php?id=1075712&ST=UKOG
4. http://www.londonstockexchange.com/exchange/prices-and-markets/stocks/exchange-insight/company-news.html?fourWayKey=GB00B9MRZS43GBGBXAIM