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Why was this moved? --Jiang 01:55, 13 Jan 2004 (UTC)


This needs much more about training. Now I'm curious. Meelar 05:17, 1 May 2004 (UTC)


There's lots of information available about SEAL training. I invite anyone to post what they know. Prospero --- Doing a google search, i found that seal team six is red cell according to most sites...—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 199.97.121.99 (talkcontribs) 03:37, 15 January 2005. -- This is not true; Dick Marcinko was, however, the commander of both units. --68.120.68.129

Other Specops Groups

I'd love to see someone with more knowledge than myself put together a general special operations warfare page with links to this article as well as any about German, Russian, and other groups (Flotilla 13 anyone?)—The preceding unsigned comment was added by MtB (talkcontribs) 10:12, 14 November 2004.

Special forces, commando, list of special forces. Joseph | Talk 05:04, Nov 14, 2004 (UTC)


Spun off UDT

I've spun off the information regarding the UDTs to Underwater Demolition Team. This is in hopes that since their official tasks were different from the SEALs that some background into their specialties and differences will be discussed. Alkivar 05:55, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

"The leading offensive force in the world"

I've reverted this, but even as it is, it could do with some backing up. For example: "according to Janes, one of the leading offensive force in the world" (I have no idea whether or not Janes actually say this). --stochata 17:50, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I would appreciate it if you guys would quit changing the page, stating that the SEALs are among the best, i got those articles from the offical SEAL page from www.navy.com and from the SEAL Encyclopedia written by a Green Beret, US Army Special Forces, so do research before you change (deleted) you don't know about (deleted).—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 209.149.228.13 (talkcontribs) 01:16, 15 February 2005.

Listen (deleted) whoever is changing the page is pissing me off, according to www.navy.com, on their SEAL page, it states the SEALs are the leading offensive force in the world. "The Encyclopedia of the Navy SEALs" , written by a Green Beret and the First SEAL Roy Boehm, it states that the SEALs are the most well equiped, and best special operations/counter-terrorist unit ever assembled.

quit changing (deleted) before you do research, so now you know—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 209.149.228.13 (talkcontribs) 01:28, 15 February 2005.

Why are the first two paragraphs of this article identical to text on  ?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by The Anome (talkcontribs) 01:39, 15 February 2005.

those two articles are taken from the SEALs' home page at navy.com—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.12.116.7 (talkcontribs) 06:46, 15 February 2005.

Don't you think direct propaganda is a little out of place? It needs to be made a quote.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.52.229.196 (talkcontribs) 09:21, 16 February 2005.

I've reverted the re-addition of the "leading offensive force" bit. For one, it's redundant; we already have it (cited) in the first body piece, which is much better. No point in saying it twice. Second, it's POV to just go ahead and say it. No way around it. I don't mind saying "So-and-so says they're the best", but I do mind saying "Everyone thinks they're the best". Finally, it adds nothing to the article to have it in the intro. See the pages on avoiding weasel words/peacock terms and the NPOV page for more. Deltabeignet 04:22, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Why is the first paragraph in this article. Everyone thinks their special forces are "the best in the world". Avalon 12:41, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

You can't say that the SEALs absolutely ARE the best in the world unless they indeed are. The Navy SEAL website alone is not a trustworthy source. Of course the SEALs think the SEALs are the best. The fact that there is any debate at all means that you have to say "one of the best" or something along the lines of that.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 58.104.51.118 (talkcontribs) 09:37, 14 October 2005.

France?

"Each team can deploy anywhere in the world or France with 4 hours notice by sea, air, or land."

anywhere in the world, OR France!?

That sentence didnt make any sense.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 158.38.88.137 (talkcontribs) 21:48, 14 July 2005.


'or France' -hahah. The information also incorrect. It's actually within 24 hours.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 58.104.51.118 (talkcontribs) 09:29, 14 October 2005.


hmmm.... maybe it was supposed to be something like "anywhere in 24 hours and france in 4"....—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 58.104.51.118 (talkcontribs) 09:48, 14 October 2005.

LOL good one--Mimbster 16:21, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

protected

I have protected this page since it appears that this edit war has no sign of ending soon and has degraded into IP's throwing profanity laden edit summaries at each other. Jtkiefer ----- 02:30, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Unprotected, hopefully people will stop edit warring now. Jtkiefer ----- 03:15, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

seal nickname

seals are not called "sharkmen" they are called "frogmen"...why do you think their called "tadpoles" in buds???(please change)—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.191.210.179 (talkcontribs) 12:05, 13 October 2005.

Are SEALs really referred to as "Frogmen"? Certainly SEAL history can be traced to Frogmen units, but I was under the impression that Frogmen were ONLY Navy divers, whereas the SEALs branch into a seperate combat branch of diving. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 152.3.68.161 (talkcontribs) 08:11, 26 February 2006.

Where does the word SEAL come from anyway? And why is it always capitalised? If it's an acronym, then shouldn't the full name be noted on this site?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 58.104.51.118 (talkcontribs) 09:42, 14 October 2005.

SEAL stands for Sea Air Land. You wouldn't call them the Navy Sea Air Land. The acronym is explained in the article I believe.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bubbleboys (talkcontribs) 12:02, 14 October 2005.

Coral sneakers

What are "coral" sneakers? coral colored?--24.94.189.89 05:55, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

They are called "coral" sneakers because you can walk on sharp coral with them without cutting your feet Swatjester 21:12, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Females...

...need not apply, correct? Perhaps taken for granted, but maybe we should mention its men only (assuming what I remember reading on the topic is true). Marskell 22:42, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

This is correct. Women are not allowed despite what GI Jane might tell you.Swatjester 21:13, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Should we change it to "Currently" only me are recruited into the SEAL? I for one think it might be dropped all together.

                            Traith

quality standards?

I've never seen why the navy seals page had hte quality tag. I would say its up in the top 5% of pages in terms of quality. There are many more pages which don't meet wikipedia quality standards.

Look at this talk page. That should tell you enough Swatjester 21:14, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

So...the talk page tells me absolutely nothing I don't know. If anything, this article is like I've mentioned before one of the better pages on Misplaced Pages. Just go to a random page. Click random article a few times and I guarentee you, you will find at least one page which is more in need of quality standards than this article.Bubbleboys 23:13, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Top 5%? Look at the featured articles and tell me this can compare. This page CONSTANTLY has factually incorrect information, and the writing style needs work. Swatjester 08:09, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

I have a question for you Swatjester. WHAT WIKIPEDIA ARE YOU BROWSING??? Because it sure as hell isn't this wikipedia. Bubbleboys 19:32, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Are you serious? Did you even look at the feature article's? GO ahead, submit this one for peer review. It'll get slaughtered and a half. SWATJester Aim Fire! 16:56, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Navy SEALs

There is no SEAL Team Six anymore, it decomissioned a while ago. There is DEVGRU, which from what the public knows, is most likely just like SEAL Team Six.

There is a could reason SEAL is always capatilized. A seal or Seal is the animal. A SEAL is a member from the Naval Special Warfare.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Steven89 (talkcontribs) 23:11, 22 January 2006.

Actually it's restricted capitalized because it's an acronym SWATJester Aim Fire! 21:11, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

What are you talking about? It's restricted? What are you talking about?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Steven89 (talkcontribs) 05:21, 3 February 2006.

oops. Don't know where restricted came up. I meant to say capitalized. SWATJester Aim Fire! 19:33, 8 March 2006 (UTC)


No SOF unit is the best, they're all elite in their own ways. A unit like the Army Rangers may (not saying they are) be better on ground, but Navy SEALs can beat any SOF unit in the water. No SOF unit is better - they all have their own specialties.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Steven89 (talkcontribs) 23:11, 22 January 2006.

Discussion "Funny Platoon" transferred to Delta Force

LASIK/PRK

Both LASIK and PRK are acceptable for current and prospective members of NSW/SO, including the Navy SEALS. Reference NAVMED P-117, Manual of the Medical Department at http://navymedicine.med.navy.mil/Files/Media/directives/MANMED%20CHANGE%20126.pdf.

What happened to SEAL Team NINE?

What happened to SEAL Team NINE? Anthony Appleyard 07:34, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

1,3,5,7 on the west coast 2,4,8,10 on the east cost

4 in each. 9 isn't commissioned yet.

SEAL TEAM SIX is decommisioned, however recent news article mentions a murder/self defense trial commited by member of TEAM SIX.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Taikei (talkcontribs) 01:53, 4 April 2006.

These are the scores that trainees are frequently urged toward by instructors:

Does this seem oddly phrased or out of place to anyone else? Every instructor urges their trainees to higher standards, do they not? I haven't been to BUD/s but I'd be willing to bet that the instructors urge the trainees to sit at the bottom of the pool for 4 days straight too.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Joliver11b1p (talkcontribs) 07:30, 22 March 2006.

Weapons List

It's a little pointless since we a) don't know what they do and don't use and b) they have a lot of individual discretion anyway. Lets just delete this list and put in a paragraph that says they are given great leeway in their selection of weapons and hence are not bound to the standard issue in the US Military. Notable uses like their adoption of the Stoner 63 series might deserve a mention.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mmx1 (talkcontribs) 04:52, 4 May 2006.

Two notes

First - where's the source for use of MARPAT? Given the Corp's (what some might call fanatical) attachment to it's beloved Eagle/Globe/Anchor, would they let the SEALs use it? I want to see a factual source on this.

Second - Despite what people will tell you, Jesse Ventura is NOT a SEAL and never was - he was in the UDT.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.3.87.124 (talkcontribs) 09:03, 16 May 2006.

RAID Camo

I de-linked the "RAID" camoflauge link because it forwarded to the IT term (Redundant Arry of Independent Disks) and I have no idea where to link it otherwise. Perhaps we need a "For other uses of RAID..." link at the top of the IT term's page? JD79 02:49, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Propaganda names and redirects

Please note wikipedia policies: Operational codenames generally make poor titles, as the codename gives no indication of when or where the battle took place and only represents one side's planning (potentially causing the article to focus on that side's point of view to the detriment of the other).. There is no need to keep them here unless propaganda is the topic. Thank you. Añoranza 21:52, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

oh lookey, it found a new page to cite, although only the parts that apply to its own agenda← ΣcoPhreek contribs21:53, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
Do not get dragged into anything, be bold Ecophreek, if you see something you think needs to be edited, do so. I will be on the look out for the same. --zero faults 21:58, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
Perhaps this user will participate in the discussion on the page, instead of selectively quoting an ongoing talk. --zero faults 21:59, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
You're right, of course, I shouldn't let the actions of a ... whatever, get me uptight. Thank you for reminding me ← ΣcoPhreek contribs22:03, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
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