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Bbb23, thanks for your hard work this year, you deserve wonderful holidays! I wish you success and happiness in your endeavours for this coming year, and I hope we'll be able to carry on improving the wonderful project that is Misplaced Pages together! Keep rocking on! :) Salvidrim!, wrapping up another great year of collaboration with y'all!

Edit warring.

Thank you for the feedback. I am new to this and still figuring out how things work. --Zackmann08 (talk) 04:36, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for coming here, no need to apologize. We all learn new things on Misplaced Pages all the time. I appreciate your taking my comments constructively.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:44, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

WP:Verfiability

Maybe I'm misunderstanding your edit, but you seem to be implying that it was improper for me to change the policy without discussion. I was following BRD -- I was bold, you reverted, and now we will discuss (without me re-reverting, obviously, unless/until a broad consensus is developed in my favor). Steeletrap (talk) 01:44, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

You read too much in my edit summary. I didn't think you did anything "improper".--Bbb23 (talk) 02:20, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Danrolo sock returned

Helo Bbb23,

201.239.253.57 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) (Danrolo's sock) has returned and continues to edit unconstructively as before. Kind regards, --RJFF (talk) 17:50, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

• RJFF, I blocked him for six months this time. We might want to consider adding a new range to edit filter 525. I can't do that. I believe the filter was last edited by Reaper Eternal.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:21, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. --RJFF (talk) 18:23, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Question about Last block

The block you made on Joshua Jonathan and Devanampriya. My question was, that it is relevant to report edit warring even after 3 days? The whole incident was 3-4 days or older i think. Bladesmulti (talk) 19:43, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Four small words ...

José Rafael Cordero Sanchez by Anterdans. For your convenience: {{sock|Josercs1|blocked}} --Best, Sam Sailor 15:22, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, Sam, all done, I should have a script.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:45, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

And I who thought you were a script! ... You're welcome. The guy is sneaky, he recreated his bio on Spanish Misplaced Pages too, but moved the acute accent in Rafael, look: es:José Rafaél Cordero Sánchez. We have only had the pleasure of deleting the article 17 times, nothing compared really to his track record on sp.wik: 35 deletions. Within some 18 months. Isn't that a rare high score on the persistence scale? I'm keeping an eye on recreations, including spelling variations not yet utilized, here. Best, Sam Sailor 02:54, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Another sock of Danrolo

Helo Bbb23,

186.104.128.176 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) seems to be a new Danrolo sock that is adding unreferenced data to some Chilean political parties articles. I say this according to the uploading of Bandera Falange Socialista Boliviana.png in Commons and their subsequent addition in Bolivian Socialist Falange; he even put the flag on the Spanish Misplaced Pages article (Falange Socialista Boliviana) under IP 201.239.253.57 (the IP that was blocked some days ago here in the English Misplaced Pages, but not in the Spanish one). Kind regards, --Sfs90 (talk) 23:54, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

I blocked him for one month.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:02, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

S. Prestley Blake

What made you decide to redirect S. Prestley Blake? It seemed to be an established and appropriate article showing notability of the person. (note-I have no relation with the person trying to create his brother's article)--☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(talk) 02:34, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

The other co-founder's article (newly created by a disruptive new editor) was tagged for speedy deletion. Rather than delete it, I elected to redirect it. Then I looked at the brother article, and although it was a little better, there wasn't much of anything that established independent notability. A company may be notable without its co-founder being notable. However, if you disagree, you're free to restore the article before I redirected it.--Bbb23 (talk) 02:39, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Restore Los Angeles Post-Examiner

Please restore Los Angeles Post-Examiner so that I can add additional citations to bring the page up to spec. Perfect Orange Sphere (talk) 00:39, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

I've moved the article to User:Perfect Orange Sphere/Los Angeles Post-Examiner. After you think it satisfies Misplaced Pages's guidelines, I strongly urge you to submit it through WP:AFC rather than move it back directly into article space.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:08, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Page for Runway Star deleted

Hello,

Im inquiry is in regards to the page for Runway Star that was deleted, she is a female hip-hop music producer that created the song "Teach Me How to Dougie" the record is an international success that has gone RIAA certified Platinum and has continuously surfaced in pop /urban culture since its debut. The young lady that made the track is mentioned in the performing groups wiki and in media all over the internet.It is very rare that an independent producer creates a piece of work that inspired so many people in this world, and even more rare for that independent producer to be a woman. Not to mention Barack Obama made headlines in the past couples weeks for giving an emotional speech and dancing to the "Dougie" at 1st lady Michelle's birthday.

Please help me with going about the proper guideline to restore her wiki.

Thanks, M.Hill — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thefuture2027 (talk • contribs) 21:42, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

The song is obviously notable, but the subject of your article - and this is not the first time you've tried to create it - is not on its face. Additionally, it's almost all supported by interlocking self-published sources, a few of which don't even work (they time out). You've promoted this person and their affiliates at several articles at Misplaced Pages, also unreliably sourced.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:01, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Judgepedia

The template, with all its parameters and all its uses, was DELETED - see discussion - based on a similar deletion aka stare decisis. Those links can be found at Judgepedia, but the "consensus" at Misplaced Pages was that NONE of them belong here. There was no discussion about individual parameters on the template's Talk page. That's how things are done now, apparently. If you have a problem with that, you can ask the Admin why he dud what he did, then request a review, and so forth and so on. Shouldn't take you more than a year or so to get through it all. Good luck. 71.23.178.214 (talk) 13:38, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but you're not making any sense. Your earlier edit summary mentions {{JudgeLinks}}, which was deleted per the discussion you link to. But you weren't removing that template. You removed two external links, both of which simply pointed to websites. Now, you're talking here about Judgepedia, which has not been deleted, and you're not removing it anyway. I can't logically connect anything you say.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:44, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Sorry you're having problems. The templates were used to provide broader web resources. They were deleted because the consensus was to NOT provide ANY such links in EL. Readers who want such information are therefore now being directed off-site. Judgepedia is the offsite resource for SCOTUS judges, and includes all those sorts of links in their EL. Another example of an offsite resource used in this way, which you may be more familiar with, is DMOZ: see Point 3 in WP:EL which explains the reasoning. In this particular case of SCOTUS judges, DMOZ provides much less than Judgepedia. Such offsite resources are intended to be replacements, and (other than official sites) not have overlaps in listings as that defeats the purpose. Those two links I deleted are in the Judgepedia article's EL, and therefore shouldn't be repeated in the Misplaced Pages article's EL. 71.23.178.214 (talk) 15:48, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

I understand now where you're coming from, but it doesn't necessarily follow that the two external links you removed must be removed just because the Judgepedia article, which is very long, supposedly has them in it (I didn't verify it). You've been reverted again by yet another editor. The Kagan article EL section is very short. I don't see any need to remove those two ELs based on your rationale. I suggest you take it to the article talk page if you wish to push the issue.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:29, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

"the Judgepedia article, which is very long, supposedly has them in it (I didn't verify it)." HAHAHA. I clearly said it was in the EL. You stated the articke is "very long", so you obviously went there. You had time to post a reply, and check to see if my change was reverted, but scrolling down to that EL section would take too long? Really? That's your excuse? HAHAHA. Look. Everyone knows you Admins will do and say absolutely anything to support other Admins, no matter what. Congratulations on publicly proving my point. Now you can go tell those sick puppies they owe you one. What a racket. 71.23.178.214 (talk) 18:37, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Well, I can see this conversation has stopped being constructive, but, just so you know, the only administrator involved in the Kagan article dispute is me. The other two editors reverting you aren't admins, so it's not clear whom I'm supporting.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:49, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Deletion Page: Carl McKever

Hi, I was wondering why Carl's page was placed into speedy deletion. This is a poet author who has sold books worldwide and gained reasonable amount of recognition. Is something missing, such as references? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amclark121 (talk • contribs) 01:57, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

If it was speedy deleted, you can be sure reliable references were exactly what was lacking. Generally, multiple reliable sources substantially about the subject are required. See WP:BLP and WP:GNG. Cheers! JFHJr (㊟) 03:39, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

It wasn't just lacking sources. Technically, sources aren't required to defeat A7. The article didn't say much of anything. It just said McKever is an author, poet, and writer, and a little about his family. What's your association with McKever (you appear to be on a first-name basis)?--Bbb23 (talk) 04:42, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Is that a dead giveaway? JFHJr (㊟) 04:51, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Grégori Derangère

Hi! I don't understand why you have cancelled the french's translation and said that's the wrong article. How can we expand this article when I even read this message : This article may be expanded with text translated from the corresponding article in the French Misplaced Pages. You say that the sources still needed. I don't find english's sources, can we copy those in french? Have a good day ! Isacre (talk) 08:15, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

For some reason - I assume it was an error on your part - you linked at the top of the article to the wrong French wikipedia article. In any event, I don't see why the link was even necessary as an interwiki link to the French article is automatically provided on the bar to the left. More important, you have to include sources for what you say. If the sources in the French article would be reliable here and they adequately support the new material, you can, of course, use them.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:58, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Contest this deletion

21:10, 31 January 2014 Bbb23 (talk | contribs) deleted page Astrid Bonten (G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion)

This deletion + reason is inappropriate. It is about a person of importance and influence and the entry is according to the Misplaced Pages rules. Please explain yourself or undo it. Kind regards, Weipoort. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Weipoort (talk • contribs) 10:11, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Perhaps it's a language problem, but here are some of the promotional (and obviously unencyclopedic) passages in the article:

• Astrid Bonten loves Dutch figurative art from the early 1900s for the sake of its aesthetics. However, Astrid also has a predilection for non-figurative contemporary art, just because she can have wonderful discussions about its meaning and its place in Art History.
• Questions like ‘what is art’, ‘how to make art more accessible’ and ‘how to get people to participate in enjoying art’ are the questions which Astrid covered during her MA Cultural Economics, in which she learned to approach art in a more down-to-earth and pragmatic manner. As the Editor-in-Chief of MAZ Magazine Astrid Bonten continues to address these questions, next to more concrete explanations about art movements, material aspects of art.
• and is married to Frank Renooij, the keyboard player of famous Dutch coverband Habes.

That's almost the entire article. I won't restore the article to article space, but if you want me to WP:USERFY it for you, I will, but then I'd suggest you use WP:AFC so more experienced editors can help you. I don't know whether Bonten is notable (the article was tagged with WP:CSD#A7). It wasn't obvious to me on its face, but I'm not familiar with Dutch sources. I was going to ask a Dutch admin (Drmies) to take a look, but then I decided the tone of the article was unacceptable, so I simply deleted it.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:07, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

• Weipoort, Bbb heeft gerust verstand van de Misplaced Pages regels. Look, the tone is unambiguously promotional. It is entirely possible that Bonten is notable by our standards, but you can't prove that by linking to this (and others like it), especially if that link is supposed to verify that "She is especially known for her many contributions to and promotion of the Dutch modern art scene"--she wrote it herself! So you're going to have to find secondary sources. I am happy to see that she wrote on Wim Schippers' Pindakaasvloer, though. But this will have to be rewritten from scratch, and bolstered with secondary references from reliable sources. In addition, Habes is not a famous Dutch coverband, and the information is trivial--and that Leiden is "the city where Rembrandt was born and worked", is completely trivial. Leiden is also the city where once a year you get free hutspot, and that's trivial too. Bbb, are you familiar with the concept Arbeidsvitaminen? Here's some for you, and you can hear her benedenijse "r" (from below the IJ) quite clearly. Drmies (talk) 17:04, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
• Bbb, while we're on the topic--use your magic admin tool to look at Klaus Porschka, now deleted as a copyvio of this. Note that the source is MAZ "magazine"--surely that rings a bell. (Speaking of copyright, did Porschka get permission to copy the cover of Tutu? Maybe "artists" don't need that.

  Weipoort, I get the feeling you may have a conflict of interest, and that you are here to promote MAZ and/or its "editor". For the record, that Modern Art Zone was called a magazine, but it's a gallery (too), and there's a clear commercial interest here. One more thing, Weipoort: please don't use Pinterest to source positive commentary in a Misplaced Pages article. Drmies (talk) 17:10, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

• Drmies, thanks for looking at all that. Your conclusion about Wiepoort seems reasonable. As for the music video, as you know, my musical interests are narrow, and popular music videos are something I only watch/see when on Misplaced Pages. The rest of the time I revert back to my snobbish tastes.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:17, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

• WEIpoort man, Weipoort. Come on now. Drmies (talk) 17:46, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

• Too subtle for me, Drmies. According to google, poort means port or gate (some other meanings, too, I guess depending on the context). I assume your capitalization was deliberate, but I don't get it.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:49, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

• Nope, not subtle at all. You spelled it "wie" (which, if meanings are important, means "who") but it should be "wei" ("meadow", for instance). I noticed it because my daughters often mispronounce the one for the other: these are really unusual spellings for English speakers. Drmies (talk) 21:10, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

• Well, I didn't get it. In fact, I overthought it. A sledgehammer is generally better for me.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:20, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Wrong tag

It was previously deleted and put the wrong tag on accident-it was just deleted and was done by the same person (who I put a translate tag on earlier) Feel free to put the right tag on it, thanks. Wgolf (talk) 21:17, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Aah, I should have looked at the earlier edits (I have to click on something to see them). No point in retagging. I just deleted it using the same rationale as the previous admin. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:23, 1 February 2014 (UTC)