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Jews and Communism

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This article is a "point of view fork" of Jewish Bolshevism. While Jewish Bolshevism is about the conspiracy theory that Communism was a Jewish movement for world domination, this article attempts to prove that. While there may be room for a neutral article about the relationship between Jews and Communism, it would be better to scrap this article and start again TFD (talk) 00:37, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

• Emphatic Delete. Unequivocal POV attack-page.--Galassi (talk) 00:50, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
• Delete Though the invididuals mentioned may have been of Jewish ancestry, no evidence is offered that they were practicing Jews. Cullen Let's discuss it 01:01, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
  • The sources specify them as Jews. I won't get into a "Who is a Jew?" discussion. --◅ PRODUCER (TALK) 08:18, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
• Delete. This is in no way appropriate for an encyclopedia. Hot Stop 06:11, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
  • Misplaced Pages is not censored. --◅ PRODUCER (TALK) 09:09, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
• Keep This article is about Jews and Communism. There is no mention of Jewish world domination via communism, at most it is said a "disproportionately important role" (historian Norman Cantor) was played by Jews in the movement. The allegation that this article attempts to "prove" the "conspiracy theory that Communism was a Jewish movement for world domination" is thus utter nonsense. The assertion that it's "better to scrap this article and start again" is poorly cloaked WP:IDONTLIKEIT. --◅ PRODUCER (TALK) 08:18, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
  • Cantor has no expertise on Jewish history and his writings on the subject were not published in the academic press. See the review of one of his books books on Jewish history by the Director of Publications for the American Jewish Committee. It says that he claims to correct the false Jewish history which is promoted by rich and powerful Jews, and anti-Semitism has been aroused by Jewish actions. TFD (talk) 09:18, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
    • Cantor, who himself is a Jew, went to Princeton, was a Rhodes Scholar at Oxford, and taught at Columbia and other universities. The person you're citing on the other hand is the publications head of a lobby organization. --◅ PRODUCER (TALK) 09:57, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
• Delete Thinly disguised anti-Semitic ranting that Jews pushed the Communist agenda. Nothing is lost by deleting it. 68.9.121.226 (talk) 13:51, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
• Delete Pov attack page by someone who failed to get their pov at Jewish Bolshevism. Dougweller (talk) 15:02, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Disagree with that assessment. Creating a new article was actually recommended on Talk:Jewish Bolshevism. The information was rejected there solely on the grounds of it being outside the scope (which is the conspiracy theory). -- Director (talk) 15:50, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

• Strong Keep Misplaced Pages is not censored. This article is well-sourced and the sources support its content. This is a typical case of WP:IDONTLIKEIT. 23 editor (talk) 15:41, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
• Keep. Emphatically strong, even :). *Sigh*.. People, so far as I can gather, the article follows sources to the letter. Respectable, mainstream sources. If you're going to edit Wiki you need to take off any ideological glasses. And no, its not a WP:POVFORK from Jewish Bolshevism, since that article, by consensus, concerns itself exclusively with the Nazi conspiracy theory viewing Communism as some kind of "Jewish conspiracy". That article is about a conspiracy theory; this one, so far as I can gather, is about Jewish representation in Communist movements - which is historically a significant topic (Trotsky, Luxemburg, etc.). This info, relevant, reliably sourced info, has been removed from Jewish Bolshevism on grounds that its outside the article's scope - its nothing short of propagandistic to now have it deleted from here based on the claim that it belongs on that article.
  I know this is a sensitive, ideologically-laden topic - but this is Misplaced Pages. If its sourced, if its notable - it can't be deleted. Or shouldn't be, at least. And in the end, even if you disagree with the content or tone of the text, take that to talk and change it up - what matters is that the topic is noteworthy. -- Director (talk) 15:46, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:59, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Judaism-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:59, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

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