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Archived alerts

• Archive 1: June 2005 - September 2005
• Archive 2: October 2005 - December 2005
• Archive 3: January 2006 - February 2006
• Archive 4: March 2006 - April 2006
• Archive 5: May 2006 -

Active alerts

8 June 2006

• Mwhs (who appears to also contribute as 70.152.161.175) has been adding disclaimers to the top of Mami Wata (an African goddess, though Mwhs disputes even this) essentially dismissing the article's anthropological approach to the topic and stating that " overall depiction of Mami Wata known to those born and initiated and trained to serve in its priestess- hood is considered suspect." Judging by this image uploaded by the user, this person is apparently affiliated with a Mami Wata-worshipping group in Atlanta, Georgia, USA, who host the website mamiwata.com. I am sympathetic to the point of view of those who actually worship this deity, but all attempts to reason with this person are being ignored. See User talk:Mwhs#Mami Wata for the discussion. Other users have branded this person a vandal, but I have been trying to reason with them. In particular, the disclaimers placed on Mami Wata seem to violate WP:NPOV, WP:VERIFY, and WP:CITE. Help in getting this person to engage in a dialogue is appreciated, but if they refuse, administrative help would be needed (as an active disputant, I must recuse myself from administerial duties regarding this person). A similar notice has been posted at the Africa-related regional notice board. Thanks. 17:29, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

• Gzlfb (talk · contribs) is adding dozens of links to Zoltán Buday in response to requests for verifiable sources (see talk page) and has referred to other editors as nazis (on talk page). 17:54, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

• A user at 216.45.219.162 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log), 216.45.224.76 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) and 216.45.156.46 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) has been deleting the article Willis Stephens (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). They may be part of a political campaign. I can understand their interest in removing content that may be damaging to a candidate, but they have not responded to any attempts to contact them. Several other editors have been reverting the deletions which I think shows that there is no merit to deleting the article. I am not a registered voter but I did compose the original article, which is why I am dismayed that it is being removed without any constructive edits.

9 June 2006

• Re: Alicia Alighatti (a porn actress) -- an anonymous user insists on placing a screenshot of Ms. Alighatti performing fellatio on the page. I don't think this is appropriate for WP. Any thoughts? NawlinWiki 13:54, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

I've already reverted it at least once as vandalism, and I suggest that you continue to do so as well. (Also although I clearly have no idea where the picture is from, and have no intention of finding out, it's probably copyrighted). --Bachrach44 14:00, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

The image is fair use. No images are too offensive to be inappropriate for WP, as it has far more offensive pictures than that one that was uploaded to the Alicia Alighatti page. It is not vandalism, and don't go to wikipedia if you can't handle it. Clever curmudgeon 18:56, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

BTW I removed the unsourced and unsigned slander of this actress I found on her talk page, as per the BLP. - Merzbow 05:01, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

• Re: Patter drill, User:Fahrenheit451 makes personal attack and refuses to understand an element of WP:RS which is pointed out to him 10:06, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

12 June 2006

The Kārlis Ulmanis article is pushing an Ulmanis apologist POV as explained in Talk:Kārlis Ulmanis. 18:19, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

12 June 2006

User:142.22.186.7 talk has a long history of vandalizing articles. Some edits of note include Mexican Cuisine, Michelangelo's David, Ant, Chinese Civil War, Seven Years' War.

The articles noted are only a small sample of the vandalized articles the user has caused since November 2004.. While the IP Address is a shared computer network those who choose to use the system to vandalize far outweight those who actually contribute. Please considering banning this IP Address. User:Throw

13 June 2006

Calgacus made several incivil comments in regards to people that have different opinion:  ::: It's a Polish nationalist masturbation, that's why. When another user commented his remarks he replied: I don't think my comments in this respect were overly harsh. You have to understand that for eastern Europeans the English language is like a international ethnic property court, putting the name in one language claims ownership for that ethnic group, and gets one over their rivals. That's why all those Ukrainian nationalists want to rename the Russophone city of Kiev Kyiv on English wiki, but don't give two craps what its name is in other languages; and why the same people who were propping up the Polish name Władysław II Jagiełło were going around calling Vilnius Wilno. --Molobo 16:16, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

LOL Molobo, you are the last person who should be posting here. To think I thought you'd changed. Sad day. - Calgacus (ΚΑΛΓΑΚΟΣ) 20:28, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

13 June 2006

The dispute tag on this article has been repeatedly removed. The article's content is being disputed for accuracy. ~~~~~

No comment, but the link is Greg Bravo (Gary Scott). --02:44, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

14 June 2006

A rude comment has been posted on User:Robert McGuigan by an unregistered editor, apparently someone with a similar name. Is there a recommended way to handle this sort of thing? ~~~~~

Islam is currently undergoing a dispute over whether to include a section on Islamic terrorism or not. The discussion has been going on for some time, but my attempts today to actually insert a summary style section from Islamic extremist terrorism have been reverted repeatedly. I think the inclusion is important, but an outside opinion from people who don't frequent Islam-related articles would be useful. Thanks. :) Dev920 17:42, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

On Talk:Prussian_Blue_(duo), a user by the name of Overthrow, in the course of an as-yet unresolved dispute over a claim in the article Prussian Blue (duo) regarding the band's Holocaust denial, has begun to make offensive accusations and insinuations against the other editors of the article. He has been repeatedly warned to remain civil on Misplaced Pages. His comments on the article talk page do not specifically target an editor but accuse all editors who oppose his views of "obsessing over these two young girls" and "cyber stalking" them. Overthrow has responded by insulting the editor who welcomed him to Misplaced Pages. I am in the process of composing a reply to his substantive points and have no desire to be put in the false position of defending myself or other editors against his odious insinuations. He clearly won't listen to me on the subject of civility. Could someone else please try explaining to him why ad hominem arguments are inappropriate here? Thanks, Kasreyn 17:45, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

User 213.237.21.242 has taken over the Talk:Mormonism page with lengthy "rebuttals" of perceived slights. Attempts to answer the points raised have only led to more lengthy responses. Users have attempted to resolve the dispute and to continue the discussion on an archive page but nothing seems to stem the flow. Any help available? -- andersonpd 17:51, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Maddyfan (talk · contribs) has performed several wholesale reverts of edits made by Extraordinary Machine (talk · contribs) to article Christina Aguilera (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), violating the 3RR in the process. Aside from reverting edits related to an NPOV dispute and whether a section of the article is too detailed (currently being discuss on talk), Maddyfan has rolled back removal of uncited material and MoS/formatting corrections. She seems to have a misunderstanding of the WP:OWN policy, as seen by comments such as "We will boot your butt right out of here!", "please edit again, so we can just boot you", "You come here first, discuss and WE will decide what to do. Not YOU"; she has also falsely accused Extraordinary Machine of vandalism. Maddyfan is generally incivil, and personal attacks directed towards Extraordinary Machine include "don't be ridiculous" and "Get lost". Generally, she seems unwilling to work collaboratively with other editors. 18:27, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

A heated discussion over the security of the networking application Hamachi has been ongoing at the Talk:Hamachi page. One editor is take a strong stand against the security of Hamachi on what could be seen as unfair grounds as his major concerns are not necessarily Hamachi-specific. The other editor is involved with the company developing Hamachi thus make POV balance tricky. A diversity of opinion would greatly benefit the resolution of these differences of opinion.21:18, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

15 June 2006

Talk:Crimean War--- I was requested to render 3rd opinion in a dispute where one editor appears to be avoiding debate. WP:3O requires 2 people in a discussion. This issue appears to be wikiquette, not content so I referred it here.(If this is not correct please tell me proper location for this)Eagle talk

17 June 2006

Talk:United States men's national soccer team#Proposed modifications has an ongoing discussion on whether the number of consecutive qualifications to World Cup can be used to make a comparison between teams from different continents.00:16, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Programming language has active discussion with many people backing up their positions with general knowledge but reluctant to cite sources. 11:37, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Zer0fault's RfC is turning into an nonproductive, escalating war between two editors with no end in sight. I think this page, and the dispute over the Iraq war article in general, deserve more attention from the community.

18 June 2006

User:MerindaInfo is spamming Weblogs with links into their history; e.g., http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User:MeridiaInfo&oldid=59274662. I assume it's in anticipation of that page being edited away.

19:48, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

19 June 2006

Ancient Anguish rapidly approaching a revert war. Two users (1 registered, 1 anon) have posted edits to the main article which are highly critical of the game structure and administrative policies. Two registered users have reverted the edits (or re-worded them to be more neutral) for not being NPOV. The first two have then continued to revert their disputed edits back, claiming attempts to exclude or reword their edits amount to "vandaliz by proponents of the game." A neutral NPOV opinion would be appreciated to prevent a revert war. Some discussion on talk page, although last revert by anon user was not discussed. 17:57, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

20 June 2006

User:Bank Action Group (account created today, and probably connected with anon edits under User:81.157.159.200) has been adding sections and external links to the following UK bank articles Abbey (bank), Lloyds TSB, NatWest, Royal Bank of Scotland and Barclays Bank. The links are to the Bank Action Group website and the text details their standpoint in a relatively unimportant real world dispute over the application of the UK Consumer Credit Act. I feel that I have too much involvement in the subject to get too involved, but feel that these edits are very close to WP:AUTO and WP:EL, and perhaps give undue prominence to the issue. Opinions and suggestions welcomed. Many thanks 00:02, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Israel User:Tasc and User:TheYmode are getting rather agressive in discussion with User:Ariedartin over NPOV of the article (it has recently been delisted as a WP:GA for NPOV reasons). They also seem to be in a minor revert war on the article.02:18, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

User:Doright Has reverted three times in less than 24 hours. He continues to insist on adding a category to the Martin Luther category list that has been discussed and removed many times. This is a regular pattern of behavior. Invitations to discuss, and other such remedies have not proven successful. Many of the editors on the Martin Luther page are tired of the fact that Doright apparently is allowed, with impunity, to launch personal attacks and revert like this with impunity. Efforts to have admins deal with this have not produced positive change. A ban is in order. Ptmccain 11:16, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

The place to report 3RR violations is WP:AN/3RR. KillerChihuahua 16:43, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

User:Cfvh causes disruption in his zeal to personal attacks, and attempts to influence AfD votes and processes with improper accusations, witness the freshest reasonoing of his for wholesale deletions: Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Scottish pedigree of Grand Duke of Saxe-Weimar where Cfvh uses following reasons for deletion of article: "...was created by a user with a penchant for moving articles and creating peculiar redirects and articles...." In anyone's objective opinion, such accusations do not belong to reasons of AfD, and moreover are just personal attacks, but Cfvh has presumably recently found AfD process as his tool, apparently to insult other editors. A long block for Cfvh would be in order, so he can contemplate his behavior, style, and how disruptive such are for Misplaced Pages processes such as AfD. ObRoy 16:19, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Please review ObRoy's edit history and moves in consideration of the dubious veracity of this alert. He has become a source of extra work for editors of royalty-related articles with his undiscussed moves and ill-thought articles and redirects. I feel, as someone who attempts to clean up the messes he creates, that this alert is merely a way for him to vent his personal feelings under the guise of a breach of etiquette. Charles 17:11, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Consider also: This warning, this accusation, this response to a just warning, this reaction to a reversion of his "work" and this act done upon a AfD entry, in retaliation to the nomination of his obscure articles (compage ancestry of Queen Elizabeth II). Charles 17:45, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

All the above numerous replies from user:Charles just tell how intent he is on making personal attacks. Nothing of those are reasons for deletion, but anuway Charles tries to use them as such - actually, doing personal attacks. Charles has celarly not understood instructions how to make a proposal for AfD. Also, this Charles seems to edit warnings away from his usertalk page: , (Accumulated earlier warnings to Charles are not easy to dig, beceuse sometime two months ago he had had his user talk pages deleted, on pretext of "leaving Misplaced Pages" - which did not come to happen, the only that happened was deletion of the talk edit histories and warnings). A long block for Charles would be advisable. ObRoy 18:00, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

No, I am merely proving a point: You must be accountable for your actions before you can hold anyone else to be. I understand how to make a proposal at AfD. What you need to understand is that your work will be removed and edited if it falls below par, you will be warned for infractions on WP and you must stop holding double standards. Consider the things you have said about many fine administrators and editors. You are guilty of personal attacks but your victims can obviously handle it while you label constructive criticism and observations as personal attacks. It is understood between myself and other users that your work needs to be combed through and the many, many errors must be fixed. Many of these violations of basic WP "law" occurred after warnings for such (i.e, your undiscussed page moves). Maturity gains respect. Charles 18:11, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

The "warning" by you is unwarranted, and something you are guilty of. The (late) warning by Shilkanni was for an extremely old page move done in the infancy of my time at Misplaced Pages. The latter is irrelevant, the former is absurd. Charles 18:27, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

The complaints mad by Charles against ObRoy are absolutely justified - and not the other way around as ObRoy maintains. ObRoy has moved dozens and dozens of articles, leaving an absolute mess behind him. Several editors, including Charles have asked ObRoy to cease and desist, but he just continues. Now ObRoy has started creating a number of new pages which are totally inappropriate for an encyclopedia. When challenged, he claims it is a personal attack on him. Noel S McFerran 00:31, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

I do not think ObRoy's edits are as obnoxious as Charles claims. Nevertheless, the naming of European nobility is quite controversial here; probably more controversial than it in reason ought to be. ObRoy is relatively new, and may not realize this. While I sympathise with several of ObRoy's moves, they should not have been done without discussion, as many of them appear to be. I cannot hold Charles's words unwarranted: they serve to justify a collective deletion, and alert the rest of us to actions which may require consideration. Septentrionalis 14:21, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

22 June 2006

User:Aish Warya created an account less than two hours ago and has already reverted over twenty articles exactly twice, see here. When warned he has responded with incivility and personal attacks, see User talk:Aish Warya. 04:33, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

On Portal talk:Taiwan we are having a debate about calling it Portal:Taiwan or Portal:Republic of China. The mediator has suggested we have both portals but one of the participants is insisting we should only have one. 07:06, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

talk:truth is the subject of yet another NPOV dispute. It was over 200KB and was archived yesterday by User:Banno and today is again over 72KB, with no apparent progress towards resolution. Was the archiving inappropriate, is the NPOV issue clearly stated and what can be done to move the work on? 10:34, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Is incivility occurring at Talk:The Spirit of Truth? If so, what could the editors on that talk page do to help things be more civil? 14:15, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

• Steven E. Jones. User CB Brooklyn is trying to WP:OWN the article, and he makes some interesting edit comments and talk page comments. Basically, he's telling me not to edit the article because I don't buy Steven E. Jones's arguments. That's like saying only Republicans can edit the George W. Bush article. Currently the page looks like the subject's home page, with links to the originator's original research, and every conceivable media link.--Mmx1 03:10, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

JzG have deleted content and made unauthorized changes to my user page. After this he protected the page so I cannot undo his changes. I see this as a clear violation of user page guidelines. --Rdos 06:59, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

• Also under discussion at WP:ANI, the content in question is a personal essay asserting that autism is the result of cross-breeding with neanderthals. It has been deleted from article space numerous times, but Rdos flatly refused to allow its removal from his user page, so I nuked it. Just zis Guy you know? 11:30, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

• It is not a personal essay. It is a summary of the Neanderthal theory that is at my homepage. --Rdos 12:21, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

• ... and which you have freely acknowledged is unpublished original research. An essay, in other words. Just zis Guy you know? 12:34, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

• JzG once more violates policy. He removed the link to the theory, which is totally separate from the "essay" --Rdos 12:47, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

• No policy is violated when removing external links, unless they are reliable sources used in an article. WP:NOT a link farm. Just zis Guy you know? 12:54, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
• You must be kidding. I've nerver seen anybody remove external links from talk-pages, let alone in discussions that are about those links. Are you altering people's comments in AfDs too? --Rdos 14:48, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

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