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The anagram might not be the most important fact about her life, but it has been widely quoted and is one of the more interesting anagrams of celebrity names. Warofdreams 10:24, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

But she is not evil and not a bigot, so it has nothing to do with her. This one is already in the anagram page examples. --Audiovideo 14:39, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

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In bio's of politicians is it normal to refer to them by their given names? It reads as though it was written by one of her friends or admirers (and probably was). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.129.40.225 (talk) 13:43, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

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The result of the move request was: page moved. Armbrust 02:27, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Virginia Bottomley, Baroness Bottomley of Nettlestone → Virginia Bottomley – Recently moved to current title, but it seems to meet the exception in WP:NCPEER that she is best known by her personal name and received her peerage on retiring from politics. January (talk) 11:40, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

Disagree. Virginia Bottomley, Baroness Bottomley is best compromise as her title is inherently linked to her political existence, unlike, say P.D. James or Ruth Rendell. Quis separabit? 12:41, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

"Baroness Bottomley" is inaccurate as it's only part of her title. Timrollpickering (talk) 18:32, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

Either way, as Virginia Bottomley, Baroness Bottomley or Virginia Bottomley, Baroness Bottomley of Nettlestone, whichever is more accurate. Quis separabit? 18:53, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

If a politician spent much of their career as a member of the House of Lords it is appropriate to have the peerage in the title, but Bottomley's notable political career was as a member of the Commons and she received the peerage on stepping down. This is consistent with the examples in WP:NCPEER of politicians who are not at their peerage titles (Margaret Thatcher, Anthony Eden). January (talk) 09:54, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

But it is a bit off-balanced to put Virginia Bottomley and/or other life peers, who don't happen to be former PMs, in the same category as actual (former) Prime Ministers (such as Thatcher and Eden). Quis separabit? 17:34, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

The exception is for "Peers who are very well known by their personal names and who only received a title after they retired", it is not exclusively for prime ministers. Bottomley was a cabinet minister and was highly notable under her personal name. January (talk) 18:34, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

You've convinced me. Support move to simply Virginia Bottomley. Quis separabit? 11:49, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

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