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Redirects for discussion (RfD) is the place where potentially problematic redirects are discussed. Items usually stay listed for a week or so, after which they are deleted, kept, or retargeted.

  • If you want to replace an unprotected redirect with an article, do not list it here. Turning redirects into articles is wholly encouraged. Be bold!
  • If you want to move a page but a redirect is in the way, do not list it here. For non-controversial cases, place a technical request; if a discussion is required, then start a requested move.
  • If you think a redirect points to the wrong target article, this is a good place to discuss the proper target.
  • Redirects should not be deleted just because they have no incoming links. Please do not use this as the only reason to delete a redirect. However, redirects that do have incoming links are sometimes deleted, so that is not a sufficient condition for keeping. (See § When should we delete a redirect? for more information.)

Please do not unilaterally rename or change the target of a redirect while it is under discussion. This adds unnecessary complication to the discussion for participants and closers.

Before listing a redirect for discussion

Please be aware of these general policies, which apply here as elsewhere:

The guiding principles of RfD

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  • The purpose of a good redirect is to eliminate the possibility that readers will find themselves staring blankly at "Search results 1–10 out of 378" instead of the article they were looking for. If someone could plausibly enter the redirect's name when searching for the target article, it's a good redirect.
  • Redirects are cheap. They take up little storage space and use very little bandwidth. It doesn't really hurt things if there are a few of them scattered around. On the flip side, deleting redirects is also cheap because recording the deletion takes up little storage space and uses very little bandwidth. There is no harm in deleting problematic redirects.
  • If a good-faith RfD nomination proposes to delete a redirect and has no discussion after at least 7 days, the default result is delete.
  • Redirects nominated in contravention of Misplaced Pages:Redirect will be speedily kept.
  • RfD can also serve as a central discussion forum for debates about which page a redirect should target. In cases where retargeting the redirect could be considered controversial, it is advisable to leave a notice on the talk page of the redirect's current target page or the proposed target page to refer readers to the redirect's nomination to allow input and help form consensus for the redirect's target.
  • Requests for deletion of redirects from one page's talk page to another's do not need to be listed here. Anyone can remove the redirect by blanking the page. The G6 criterion for speedy deletion may be appropriate.
  • In discussions, always ask yourself whether or not a redirect would be helpful to the reader.

When should we delete a redirect?

This page is transcluded from Misplaced Pages:Redirect/Deletion reasons. (edit | history)

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Further information: Misplaced Pages:Redirects for discussion/Common outcomes and Misplaced Pages:Moving a page § Moving over a redirect

The major reasons why deletion of redirects is harmful are:

  • a redirect may contain non-trivial edit history;
  • if a redirect is reasonably old (or is the result of moving a page that has been there for quite some time), then it is possible that its deletion will break incoming links (such links coming from older revisions of Misplaced Pages pages, from edit summaries, from other Wikimedia projects or from elsewhere on the internet, do not show up in "What links here").

Therefore consider the deletion only of either harmful redirects or of recent ones.

Reasons for deleting

Shortcut See also: Misplaced Pages:Criteria for speedy deletion § Redirects

You might want to delete a redirect if one or more of the following conditions is met (but note also the exceptions listed below this list):

  1. The redirect page makes it unreasonably difficult for users to locate similarly named articles via the search engine. For example, if the user searches for "New Articles", and is redirected to a disambiguation page for "Articles", it would take much longer to get to the newly added articles on Misplaced Pages.
  2. The redirect might cause confusion. For example, if "Adam B. Smith" was redirected to "Andrew B. Smith", because Andrew was accidentally called Adam in one source, this could cause confusion with the article on Adam Smith, so the redirect should be deleted.
  3. The redirect is offensive or abusive, such as redirecting "Joe Bloggs is a Loser" to "Joe Bloggs" (unless "Joe Bloggs is a Loser" is legitimately discussed in the article), or "Joe Bloggs" to "Loser". (Speedy deletion criterion G10 and G3 may apply.) See also § Neutrality of redirects.
  4. The redirect constitutes self-promotion or spam. (Speedy deletion criterion G11 may apply.)
  5. The redirect makes no sense, such as redirecting "Apple" to "Orange". (Speedy deletion criterion G1 may apply.)
  6. It is a cross-namespace redirect out of article space, such as one pointing into the User or Misplaced Pages namespace. The major exception to this rule are the pseudo-namespace shortcut redirects, which technically are in the main article space. Some long-standing cross-namespace redirects are also kept because of their long-standing history and potential usefulness. "MOS:" redirects, for example, were an exception to this rule until they became their own namespace in 2024. (Note also the existence of namespace aliases such as WP:. Speedy deletion criterion R2 may apply if the target namespace is something other than Category:, Template:, Misplaced Pages:, Help:, or Portal:.)
  7. If the redirect is broken, meaning it redirects to an article that does not exist, it can be immediately deleted under speedy deletion criterion G8. You should check that there is not an alternative place it could be appropriately redirected to first and that it has not become broken through vandalism.
  8. If the redirect is a novel or very obscure synonym for an article name that is not mentioned in the target, it is unlikely to be useful. In particular, redirects in a language other than English to a page whose subject is unrelated to that language (or a culture that speaks that language) should generally not be created. (Implausible typos or misnomers are candidates for speedy deletion criterion R3, if recently created.)
  9. If the target article needs to be moved to the redirect title, but the redirect has been edited before and has a history of its own, then the title needs to be freed up to make way for the move. If the move is uncontroversial, tag the redirect for G6 speedy deletion, or alternatively (with the suppressredirect user right; available to page movers and admins), perform a round-robin move. If not, take the article to Requested moves.
  10. Shortcut If the redirect could plausibly be expanded into an article, and the target article contains virtually no information on the subject.

Reasons for not deleting

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However, avoid deleting such redirects if:

  1. They have a potentially useful page history, or an edit history that should be kept to comply with the licensing requirements for a merge (see Misplaced Pages:Merge and delete). On the other hand, if the redirect was created by renaming a page with that name, and the page history just mentions the renaming, and for one of the reasons above you want to delete the page, copy the page history to the Talk page of the article it redirects to. The act of renaming is useful page history, and even more so if there has been discussion on the page name.
  2. They would aid accidental linking and make the creation of duplicate articles less likely, whether by redirecting a plural to a singular, by redirecting a frequent misspelling to a correct spelling, by redirecting a misnomer to a correct term, by redirecting to a synonym, etc. In other words, redirects with no incoming links are not candidates for deletion on those grounds because they are of benefit to the browsing user. Some extra vigilance by editors will be required to minimize the occurrence of those frequent misspellings in article text because the linkified misspellings will not appear as broken links; consider tagging the redirect with the {{R from misspelling}} template to assist editors in monitoring these misspellings.
  3. They aid searches on certain terms. For example, users who might see the "Keystone State" mentioned somewhere but do not know what that refers to will be able to find out at the Pennsylvania (target) article.
  4. Deleting redirects runs the risk of breaking incoming or internal links. For example, redirects resulting from page moves should not normally be deleted without good reason. Links that have existed for a significant length of time, including CamelCase links (e.g. WolVes) and old subpage links, should be left alone in case there are any existing links on external pages pointing to them. See also Misplaced Pages:Link rot § Link rot on non-Wikimedia sites.
  5. Someone finds them useful. Hint: If someone says they find a redirect useful, they probably do. You might not find it useful—this is not because the other person is being untruthful, but because you browse Misplaced Pages in different ways. Evidence of usage can be gauged by using the wikishark or pageviews tool on the redirect to see the number of views it gets.
  6. The redirect is to a closely related word form, such as a plural form to a singular form.

Neutrality of redirects

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Just as article titles using non-neutral language are permitted in some circumstances, so are such redirects. Because redirects are less visible to readers, more latitude is allowed in their names, therefore perceived lack of neutrality in redirect names is not a sufficient reason for their deletion. In most cases, non-neutral but verifiable redirects should point to neutrally titled articles about the subject of the term. Non-neutral redirects may be tagged with {{R from non-neutral name}}.

Non-neutral redirects are commonly created for three reasons:

  1. Articles that are created using non-neutral titles are routinely moved to a new neutral title, which leaves behind the old non-neutral title as a working redirect (e.g. ClimategateClimatic Research Unit email controversy).
  2. Articles created as POV forks may be deleted and replaced by a redirect pointing towards the article from which the fork originated (e.g. Barack Obama Muslim rumor → deleted and now redirected to Barack Obama religion conspiracy theories).
  3. The subject matter of articles may be represented by some sources outside Misplaced Pages in non-neutral terms. Such terms are generally avoided in Misplaced Pages article titles, per the words to avoid guidelines and the general neutral point of view policy. For instance the non-neutral expression "Attorneygate" is used to redirect to the neutrally titled Dismissal of U.S. attorneys controversy. The article in question has never used that title, but the redirect was created to provide an alternative means of reaching it because a number of press reports use the term.

The exceptions to this rule would be redirects that are not established terms and are unlikely to be useful, and therefore may be nominated for deletion, perhaps under deletion reason #3. However, if a redirect represents an established term that is used in multiple mainstream reliable sources, it should be kept even if non-neutral, as it will facilitate searches on such terms. Please keep in mind that RfD is not the place to resolve most editorial disputes.

Closing notes

Details at Administrator instructions for RfD

Nominations should remain open, per policy, about a week before they are closed, unless they meet the general criteria for speedy deletion, the criteria for speedy deletion of a redirect, or are not valid redirect discussion requests (e.g. are actually move requests).

How to list a redirect for discussion

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STEP I. Tag the redirect(s).

  Enter {{subst:rfd|content= at the very beginning of the redirect page you are listing for discussion and enter }} at the very end of the page.

Does this look too complicated?
Try this semi-automated process instead: (note only confirmed users can use this)
  1. Enable Twinkle in the Gadgets tab of your preferences.
  2. Go back to the redirect page, and choose "XFD" from the new Twinkle menu.
  3. Fill in the form and submit it.
  • Please do not mark the edit as minor (m).
  • Please include in the edit summary the phrase:
    Nominated for RfD: see ].
  • Save the page ("Publish changes").
  • If you are unable to edit the redirect page because of protection, this step can be omitted, and after step 2 is completed, a request to add the RFD template can be put on the redirect's talk page.
  • If the redirect you are nominating is in template namespace, consider adding |showontransclusion=1 to the RfD tag so that people using the template redirect are aware of the nomination.
  • If you are nominating multiple redirects as a group, repeat all the above steps for each redirect being nominated.
STEP II. List the entry on RfD.

 Click here to edit the section of RfD for today's entries.

  • Enter this text below the date heading:
{{subst:Rfd2|redirect=RedirectName|target=TargetArticle|text=The action you would like to occur (deletion, re-targeting, etc.) and the rationale for that action.}} ~~~~
  • For this template:
    • Put the redirect's name in place of RedirectName, put the target article's name in place of TargetArticle, and include a reason after text=.
    • Note that, for this step, the "target article" is the current target of the redirect (if you have a suggestion for a better target, include this in the text that you insert after text=).
  • Please use an edit summary such as:
    Nominating ]
    (replacing RedirectName with the name of the redirect you are nominating).
  • To list multiple related redirects for discussion, use the following syntax. Repeat line 2 for N number of redirects:
{{subst:Rfd2|redirect=RedirectName1|target=TargetArticle1}}
{{subst:Rfd2|multi=yes|redirect=RedirectName2|target=TargetArticle2}}
{{subst:Rfd2|multi=yes|redirect=RedirectNameN|target=TargetArticleN|text=The actions you would like to occur (deletion, re-targeting, etc.) and the rationale for those actions.}} ~~~~
  • If the redirect has had previous RfDs, you can add {{Oldrfdlist|previous RfD without brackets|result of previous RfD}} directly after the rfd2 template.
  • If appropriate, inform members of the most relevant WikiProjects through one or more "deletion sorting lists". Then add a {{subst:delsort|<topic>|<signature>}} template to the nomination, to insert a note that this has been done.
STEP III. Notify users.

  It is generally considered good practice to notify the creator and main contributors of the redirect(s) that you nominate.

To find the main contributors, look in the page history of the respective redirect(s). For convenience, the template

{{subst:Rfd notice|RedirectName}} ~~~~

may be placed on the creator/main contributors' user talk page to provide notice of the discussion. Please replace RedirectName with the name of the respective creator/main contributors' redirect and use an edit summary such as:
Notice of redirect discussion at ]

Notices about the RfD discussion may also be left on relevant talk pages.

  • Please consider using What links here to locate other redirects that may be related to the one you are nominating. After going to the redirect target page and selecting "What links here" in the toolbox on the left side of your computer screen, select both "Hide transclusions" and "Hide links" filters to display the redirects to the redirect target page.

Current list

June 26

C:WPCVGCAT:WPCVG

New (2006-06-12) cross-namespace redirect moved to CAT:WPCVG, common style is Special:Prefixindex/CAT:, see also m:Help:Namespace manager. -- Omniplex 05:12, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

The nominated redirect was speedily deleted as attack. Kusma (討論) 05:13, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Giant doucheGeorge W. Bush

This redirect only points to George W. Bush and previously pointed to John Kerry. Silly and pointless either way it originally pointed. Basically its an offensive redirect. Kevin_b_er 05:06, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.

C:UBTCAT:UBT

New (2006-06-17) cross-namespace redirect moved to CAT:UBT, common style is Special:Prefixindex/CAT:, see also m:Help:Namespace manager. -- Omniplex 05:01, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

  • Sorry for being dense, but what exactly in m:Help:Namespace manager says that we shouldn't have C: shortcuts? Why do we even use CAT: instead of the shorter C:? Kusma (討論) 05:07, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
  • I think it says that "pseudo-namespaces" (like WP: or WM:) might be transformed into real namespaces. I can't tell you more about it, all I know is that help page, and from my POV Special:Namespaces is either invisible, or not (yet) enabled. No idea who invented CAT:CAT, check the history. It got some traction, see the "Prefixindex" link. Belatedly adding C: would only confuse it more than necessary, one vs. three characters is no huge gain. CAT for category could be also slightly more obvious than C for somebody who doesn't know it. -- Omniplex 05:23, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

June 25

DoweldList of botanists by author abbreviation

Redirect would have its merit if there was actually such an entry in the list. Otherwise, if the linker/crator cannot be bothered to check the proper botanist, the redirectshould not exist. Circeus 01:43, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Louisville Communist JournalThe Courier-Journal

Not a plausible search term (if anyone actually does call the paper this, I really doubt they'd ever search for the nickname over the paper's real name). Seems to exist just to disparage the article it redirects to, see recent POV insertions into that article, which mention this phrase . W.marsh 23:15, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

C:CSDCAT:CSD

redundant cross-namespace redirect, common style is CAT:, technical background at m:Help:Namespace manager -- Omniplex 19:56, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

"augustus greely"Adolphus Greely

really unuseful title (was stub), article since moved twice Zigger «º» 07:52, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

The nominated redirect was deleted per previous RFD (Jan 2006) — sjorford++ 10:46, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Ugly bags of mostly waterHuman

umm... yeah. i was checking "what links here" and this stuck out as rather odd.

This has already been deleted once, so I've speedied it. — sjorford++ 10:46, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.

The most annoying thing in the worldCrazy Frog

Yes it is annoying, but not that annoying. This redirect represents someone's non-neutral point of view. Omphaloscope » talk 08:35, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

  • Keep; "The most annoying thing in the world" was actually the former name of the crazy frog, before it became a ringtone. smurrayinchester 08:44, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep per Smurrayinchester. As a side note, if you look at the beginning of the music video (approx 11th second to 17th second) you will see WANTED - the most annoying thing in the world. TheJC Contributions 09:11, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
The nominated redirect was deleted by KimvdLinde, per Mboverload/Digitalme's request. ~ PseudoSudo 23:18, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

WP:0FAUser:Mboverload/Zero Featured Article, WP:*FAUser:Digitalme/Any Featured Article

WP redirects pointing to userspace essays; see WP:1FA's RFD. ~ PseudoSudo 22:01, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Delete, sure, I see.--digital_me 22:49, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.

June 24

Categories for deletionMisplaced Pages:Categories for deletion

Cross-namespace redirect. --Mr. Lefty Talk to me! 22:11, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Request for adminshipMisplaced Pages:Requests for adminship

Cross-namespace redirect. --Mr. Lefty Talk to me! 22:09, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Requests for AdminshipMisplaced Pages:Requests for adminship

Cross-namespace redirect. --Mr. Lefty Talk to me! 22:08, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Tuçe KazazTuğçe Kazaz

Typing error while moving from Tugçe Kazaz. CeeGee 15:02, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

The nominated redirect was Converted to disambig until an actual article written. -- JLaTondre 17:13, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

AutopistaAutopistas de Puerto Rico

Autopistas are found in others countries, including Spain. Autopista really deserves its own article, but until it has one, redirecting to a list of only Puerto Rican ones would be confusing. smurrayinchester 10:03, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.

Devarajan/FilmographyFilmography of G. Devarajan

together with G. Devarajan/Filmography these are pointless and undesirable redirects left over after I moved the page to a more policy complient title. Eluchil404 03:47, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

BATTLE OF HALDIGHATBattle of Haldighat

Doesn't quite meet CSD R3, but I think it's unnecessary and implausible. –Dicty (T/C) 12:49, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

The nominated redirect was Deleted by EWS23. -- JLaTondre 22:25, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

James Brady (disambiguation) (disambiguation)James Brady (disambiguation)

Nobody is going to type "(disambiguation) (disambiguation)" in the search box. EdGl 18:52, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.

June 23

The nominated redirect was speedy delete per WP:ASR. Cross-namespace, reposted redirect with no incoming links. AmiDaniel (talk) 22:02, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Articles for deletionMisplaced Pages:Articles for deletion

Self-referential cross-namespace redirect. Deleted by Cyde (talkcontribs) on 15 June 2006, recreated by Calsicol (talkcontribs) on 22 June 2006. There was one incoming link, which I have now changed to point directly to Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletionGurch 14:01, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.
The nominated redirect was Deleted by Jimfbleak. -- JLaTondre 11:41, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Plant VaginaFlower

Not a term one would use to find "flower"; nor is it biologically accurate. Flowers contain both male and female organs; and platns have nothing resembling a penis or a vagina. Looks like someone being naughty to me. If anyone with better biological knowledge than I thinks this is appropriate, though, I'll quickly change my mind. EngineerScotty 05:52, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.

Votes for deletionMisplaced Pages:Articles for deletion

Cross namespace redirect Yanksox 05:09, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

June 22

AetherometryAether theories

Aetherometry isn't mentioned at all on the Aether theories page, and it is very different from the theories discussed there. It doesn't really have too much in common with aether theories at all, concentrating more on things like leukemia early warning kits and measurements with no uncertainty. Philosophus 21:07, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Pearland JROTCGeorge W. Bush

No apparent connection, former target was deleted, see Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Pearland Army JROTC. Rory096 08:22, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

The nominated redirect was Speedy deleted R1 by InShaneee (talkcontribsblocksprotectsdeletionsmoves). --Rory096 05:21, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Warren wickmanWarren Wickman

Target deleted Johndarrington 01:42, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.
The nominated redirect was speedy delete as G6, although it doesn't matter either way. Kusma (討論) 00:42, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Path integralTalk:Line integral

Path integral has been rewritten as a disambig, so this seems unnecessary. (I reverted blanking of the redirect, as I feel that it would be better if it were deleted entirely, and it's better discussed as an RfD than an MfD.) — Arthur Rubin | (talk) 00:34, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.

June 21

The nominated redirect was Converted to disambig. -- JLaTondre 01:09, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

SwirlSwirl (band)

Since the addition of the swirl (organization) page there are now two swirl pages. I'm thinking that the Swirl redirect shouldn't direct to just one of them because if you search for swirl meaning to find the organization you won't be able to find it. Rugadh 21:32, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.

Image copyright tagsMisplaced Pages:Image copyright tags

Cross-space redirect. SCHZMO 21:18, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Image tagsMisplaced Pages:Image copyright tags

Cross-space redirect SCHZMO 21:17, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

SchlongPenis

I don't beleive that this should be deleted, as it is conceivable that someone might search "Schlong" on Misplaced Pages; however, the {{rfd}} tag was placed on it by 194.66.185.193 at 10:29 on 19 June 2006, so I feel duty-bound to list it here. In other words: keep. Lockesdonkey 20:05, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

The nominated redirect was already deleted by somebody else. — Jun. 21, '06 <freak|talk>

A VCFred Wilson (venture capitalist)

Redirect to deleted article Bugwit grunt / scribbles 10:48, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.
The nominated redirect was speedy deleted because I saw no mention of "shain" on the latter page. If I'm missing something, let me know. — Jun. 21, '06 <freak|talk>

ShainBabe: Pig in the City

Makes no sense. Wizard @ 08:00, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.
The nominated redirect was speedy deleted, cross-namespace redirect, malformed, made no sense. — Jun. 21, '06 <freak|talk>

SqwirlImage:Manet,_Edouard_-_The_Absinthe_Drinker.jpg

Makes no sense. Wizard @ 07:58, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.
The nominated redirect was deleted, phrase is not mentioned in target article. — Jun. 21, '06 <freak|talk>

Fuck Misplaced PagesCriticism of Misplaced Pages

Pretentious, useless. Kookykman|(t)e 15:44, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

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Cake SnifferLemony Snicket

- What does the insult Cake Sniffer have to do with the author/character from The Series of Unfortunite Events? All systems go 17:45, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

TwentysomethingTwentysomething (disambig)

I'm trying to do a complicated sort of reshuffling to merge Twenty something into its correct spelling Twentysomething while still preserving the talk page and without deleting either page's information. So, basically, I need this page freed up to complete the merge myself. KyleGarvey 19:29, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

June 20

Richard Sharpe Story PlotsMisplaced Pages:Richard Sharpe Story Plots

Cross-space redirect created by move —Mira 05:11, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

The nominated redirect was deleted as cross-namespace redirect. Kimchi.sg 11:33, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Napoleonic/Sharpe:WikiprojectMisplaced Pages:Richard Sharpe Story Plots

Cross-space redirect created by move —Mira 05:11, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

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Template:MonopolyTemplate:LondonMonopolyBoard

The Monopoly template was just a copy of the London game board layout of the board game Monopoly, copied from the Monopoly (game) page. I considered the template name to be too generic, moved the content to Template:LondonMonopolyBoard, and made the necessary change in the article. Nothing now links to Template:Monopoly; it could be deleted. JohnDBuell 01:26, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

The nominated redirect was Speedy deleted by smurrayinchester 18:17, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Integrated Science, Business, and TechnologyIntegrated Science, Business and Technology

Target article was deleted qswitch426 18:02, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Integrated Science Business and TechnologyIntegrated Science, Business and Technology

Target article deleted qswitch426 17:59, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

The nominated redirect was Speedy deleted by Gwernol (talkcontribsblocksprotectsdeletionsmoves). --Rory096 18:04, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Andy anggiantoUser:Fiexe

Cross-space redirect Fram 13:24, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

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Multiple unofficial anthemsNational Anthem of Scotland

No obvious logical connection: if someone would look for "multiple unofficial anthems" (however improbable that is), there is no reason for them to expect to be carried to the one for Scotland Fram 13:16, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Bartholomew (Spyro charcacter)Bentley (Spyro character)

Typo by the Wikipedian creating the article. Actual article was Bartholomew (Spyro character), which has since been merged into Bentley (Spyro character) for lack of notability. No further edit history or apparent internal links to the old redirect. Stratadrake 12:56, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Clarifying: I've already merged the Bartholomew article's info into the article for Bentley and changed the old article (Bartholomew (Spyro character)) into a redirect. That was when I noticed the redirect in question, Bartholomew (Spyro charcacter). --Stratadrake 00:24, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
The nominated redirect was delete as CSD G4 - repost. Kimchi.sg 14:30, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

March 27, 1964Good Friday Earthquake

If an article for a date is to be created, (which I would oppose, as we don't have any dates around there), it should be an ARTICLE, not a redirect. — Arthur Rubin | (talk) 02:08, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

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The nominated redirect was Deleted by Kusma (talkcontribsblocksprotectsdeletionsmoves). --Rory096 06:16, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

July 1979July

or perhaps, it's redirecting to 1979. In any case, we don't have any nearby month/year articles or redirects. — Arthur Rubin | (talk) 02:08, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

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The nominated redirect was speedy deleted. -- King of 23:03, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

"Comment Spam Number Mystery"Comment spam number mystery

No sensible reason why this would ever be referenced with quotes around it, most likely a mistake that was then redirected, but should probably be deleted now Gnewf 19:52, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

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The nominated redirect was Nothing to be done here --Cyde↔Weys 17:38, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

My Chemical RomanceYou know what they do to guys like us in prison

It is a song that should have its own page and not get redirected to the band. All systems go 23:41, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

I guess you want to delete the redirect You Know What They Do To Guys Like Us In Prison pointing to My Chemical Romance. If you want to create an article about the song, just do so, the redirect does not have to be deleted for that. See the top of this page. Kusma (討論) 23:59, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
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June 19

The nominated redirect was all deleted per precedent, etc. — Jun. 19, '06 <freak|talk>

WikipediestMisplaced Pages:Wikipedians

Cross-namespace redirect. AmiDaniel (talk) 20:40, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Wp wikipediansMisplaced Pages:Wikipedians

Cross-namespace redirect. AmiDaniel (talk) 20:36, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Wp list of wikipediansMisplaced Pages:Wikipedians

Cross-namespace redirect, trying to be some sort of odd shortcut. AmiDaniel (talk) 20:35, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

WikipedistMisplaced Pages:Wikipedians

Cross-namespace redirect. AmiDaniel (talk) 20:32, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages communityMisplaced Pages:Wikipedians

Yet another cross-namespace redirect. AmiDaniel (talk) 20:22, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

WikipedeMisplaced Pages:Wikipedians

Unhelpful cross-namespace redirect. Only two incoming links. AmiDaniel (talk) 20:20, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

WikiPediansMisplaced Pages:Wikipedians

Cross-namespace, CamelCase redirect with no particularly useful history and only two incoming links. AmiDaniel (talk) 20:07, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

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--Rory096 06:17, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

List of cartoon and comic character pairsList of comic and cartoon character pairs

Reason Target page non-existant CPAScott 19:05, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

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BarineArvède Barine

The name "Barine" used to result in a long list of possible entries that use this last name, this list is bypassed if this redirect remains. Bob em 16:57, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Like what other entries? Aside from Arvède, the only other Barine seems to be a character in a play by Sartre . --Mathew5000 21:47, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

  • Comment, I have no problem making it into a dab page if there are other entries... but looking through the edit history there was the redirect or just " ]" which didn't automatically redirect... so, I'll say keep unless there is a dab page. gren グレン 22:09, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
The nominated redirects were both deleted as malformed (no space before parentheses, thus the pipe trick fails it). One of them contained the edit history of the target article, due to a copy/paste move. I have fixed this. In the future, please check for non-trivial edit history and mention it when making RFD nominations, thanks. — Jun. 19, '06 <freak|talk>

Do No Harm(Tv Episode)Do No Harm (Lost)

No one would type this in, people will be able to find the correct article by visiting Do No Harm. Also no links to the page.TomcageTalk Contribs 10:48, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Edit: no links except a disambiguation page which is listed for deletion and another redirect which I am about to list. TomcageTalk Contribs 10:51, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Do No Harm(TV Episode)Do No Harm(Tv Episode)

Redirect to another redirect. Unrequired as no one will type this in. No links to the page. TomcageTalk Contribs 10:53, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

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June 18

Knob rotGonorrhoea

nonsense redirect, original article was submitted for speedy deletion whoda 21:23, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

June 17

The nominated redirect was cross namespace gren グレン 22:11, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Blank mapMisplaced Pages:Blank maps

Cross-namespace redirect. Mathew5000 20:39, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

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Adam WangUser:MUBOTE

Cross-namespace redirect. Mr. Lefty Talk to me! 16:18, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

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The nominated redirect was Deleted by Freakofnurture (talkcontribsblocksprotectsdeletionsmoves)

TawkerbotUser:Tawkerbot

... Rory096 14:42, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

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Shadow the Hedgehog (video game features)Shadow the Hedgehog (video game)

Unlikely to be entered into the search bar. ' 04:21, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

It is useful in discouraging recreation of a deleted page. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 04:42, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
Can't page protections be used for that? ' 04:58, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
Right, but then it would be a {{deletedpage}}. Redirects are always better than random pages with self-references in them that are completely useless. --Rory096 14:43, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Bad-lad and trap-bath splits and æ-tensingPhonological history of English short A

Odd redirect. No one's going to type in this looking for the phonological history of English short a. I wonder why this redirect was created? Voortle 23:43, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

The nominated redirect was Deleted by Johnleemk (talkcontribsblocksprotectsdeletionsmoves)

Requested picturesMisplaced Pages:Requested pictures

Needless orphaned cross-namespace redirect. Rory096 18:55, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

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The nominated redirect was Speedy deleted by Derek Ross (talkcontribsblocksprotectsdeletionsmoves) --Rory096 18:56, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Direct logicDirect Logic

article doesn't exist — Arthur Rubin | (talk) 17:49, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

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The nominated redirect was deleted. Kimchi.sg 10:45, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

WAITESWaits

If someone's looking for an article on waits they're not going to type it in ALL CAPS. – (), 10:30, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

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The nominated redirect was Converted to disambig. -- JLaTondre 12:20, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

KutterAnton_Kutter

Redirect should be removed and replaced by a disambiguation page referring to Anton Kutter and Hermann Kutter 84.150.250.197 11:21, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

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The nominated redirect was deleted. Kimchi.sg 11:26, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Bolos, got to love them... or else! → ]

Appears to be a pointless redir, has only one contributer with one edit, the contributer was in fact queried about it roughly 7 months ago to no avail whoda 11:57, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

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The nominated redirect was Changed target to Tracy and tagged with {{R from alternate spelling}}. -- JLaTondre 14:18, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

TraciTracy Brookshaw

There is more than one Traci, but I don't think we should go down the path of disambig pages by first name. JLaTondre 13:39, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

  • Comment Seems reasonable. Checking the "Traci" articles we have () finds pretty much Traci Lords the most notable of the few listed, and she's included on the Tracy DAB page, as are people with other spellings like "Tracey". Fan1967 02:37, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
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The nominated redirect was redirected to neologism. There is a 6-to-3 majority in favo(u)r of doing so, and Rory's argument was convincing. Kimchi.sg 11:21, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

ProtologismMisplaced Pages:Avoid neologisms

There's a bit of history here. Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Protologism was closed as delete on 23 March this year. The article was recreated as a redirect a couple of days later, and the redirect was listed here immediately. The RfD did not lead to a consensus, so when I closed it I decided to make the article a soft redirect to wikt:protologism, which I judged to be a good compromise between the various positions taken at the RfD debate (see Misplaced Pages:Redirects for deletion/Redirect Archives/March 2006#March 27). However, this soft redirect did not last long. I'm bringing the redirect up again in the hope that we now do manage to get a consensus.

Personally, I think cross-namespace redirects are to be avoided. I don't think this one is useful enough that it merits ignoring the rule. Thus, delete. -- Jitse Niesen (talk) 14:15, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

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June 16

The nominated redirect was redirected to Psalms. Kimchi.sg 11:07, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Psalm 82Yam (god)

Misleading. zafiroblue05 | Talk 00:09, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

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The nominated redirect was Deleted by Naconkantari. -- JLaTondre 12:22, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Marc scibiliaMarc scibilia(Singer)Marc Scibilia(Singer)

One's a double-redirect; and they both lead to an empty page up for speedy --EngineerScotty 20:11, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

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The nominated redirect was William Annis converted to disambig. William annis redirected to William Annis. -- JLaTondre 20:07, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

William_AnnisBilly_Annis

See William annis RFD below. LordMcD 18:41, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

William_annisBilly_Annis

There are only two articles linking to William annis; one is looking for Billy Annis and the other is not, which confusingly leads people to believe that an English footballer is in an synthpop band. LordMcD 18:41, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

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The nominated redirect was Converted to disambig page. -- JLaTondre 12:42, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

toolkitWidget toolkit

there exist other toolkits than widget toolkits e.g. Toolkits for User Innovation Zigo1232 09:49, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

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June 15

The nominated redirect was Deleted by Johnleemk. -- JLaTondre 13:19, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

As of version, As of version 1.0, As of version 3.2, As of version 4.0Misplaced Pages:As of version

CSRs. Invitatious 23:19, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

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The nominated redirect was Deleted --Cyde↔Weys 13:07, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Articles needing attention, Pages needing attention, Misplaced Pages utilities/Pages needing attentionMisplaced Pages:Pages needing attention

CNRs. Invitatious 23:19, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

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The nominated redirect was Deleted by Johnleemk. -- JLaTondre 13:20, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Blank mapsMisplaced Pages:Blank maps

Cross-namespace redirect SCHZMO 22:57, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

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The nominated redirect was All deleted --Cyde↔Weys 13:04, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Australian Mathematics CompetitionMisplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Australian Mathematics Competition

CSR to closed AfD discussion. Invitatious 22:56, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

19xx in AustraliaMisplaced Pages:Australian Wikipedians' notice board/19xx in Australia

Obvious CSR. (I'm tired already. There's lots of them!) Invitatious 22:50, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Article deletionMisplaced Pages:Deletion Policy

CSR.Invitatious 22:39, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Article improvement driveMisplaced Pages:Article Improvement Drive

CSR.Invitatious 22:39, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Article mergeMisplaced Pages:Proposed mergers

CSR.Invitatious 22:39, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Article seriesMisplaced Pages:Article series

CSR.Invitatious 22:39, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Articles for CreationMisplaced Pages:Articles for creation

CSR.Invitatious 22:39, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Articles for DeletionMisplaced Pages:Articles for deletion

CSR.Invitatious 22:39, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Armenian cuisineCategory:Armenian cuisine

CSR. Invitatious 22:33, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Are You a Wikipediholic TestMisplaced Pages:Are You a Wikipediholic Test

CSR. Invitatious 22:24, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

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The nominated redirect was all deleted. The template should be changed to avoid linking directly to the templates. A list article would be a more appropriate target. — Jun. 18, '06 <freak|talk>

BC-FedRepTemplate:BC-FedRep (and MANY OTHERS)

Main space to Template redirect. AB-FedRep deleted below, but not the others. I was also nominating, in addition to the redirect above, MB-FedRep, NB-FedRep, NL-FedRep, NS-FedRep, NT-FedRep, NU-FedRep, ON-FedRep, PE-FedRep, PQ-FedRepTemplate:QC-FedRep, QC-FedRep, SK-FedRep, VA-FedRep, YK-FedRepTemplate:YT-FedRep, YT-FedRep. All have the same redirect pattern unless otherwise noted. Invitatious 22:21, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

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The nominated redirect was Deleted --Cyde↔Weys 13:00, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Arbitration CommitteeMisplaced Pages:Arbitration Committee

I'm pretty sure it isn't specific to Misplaced Pages. Invitatious 21:48, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

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The nominated redirect was Deleted by Freakofnurture. -- JLaTondre 20:14, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Archaean/InfoboxTemplate:Archaean Infobox

What do you think it is? Invitatious 21:43, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

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The nominated redirect was Deleted --Cyde↔Weys 13:00, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Being a dickMisplaced Pages:Don't be a dick

CSR linking to essay on meta:Don't be a dick. Invitatious 21:33, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

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The nominated redirect was kept. — Jun. 18, '06 <freak|talk>

ISB numberISBN

I personally have no idea what the "N" part is for, but I have never came across a book which states the "ISB number". Plus, any search engine hits are un-releated to each other. Kilo-Lima| 18:06, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

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The nominated redirect was deleted. — Jun. 15, '06 <freak|talk>

"TCC"The Casual Courier

quoted string, bypassing TCC disambig page, etc. — Arthur Rubin | (talk) 18:02, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

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The nominated redirect was Deleted by Can't sleep, clown will eat me (talkcontribsblocksprotectsdeletionsmoves). --Rory096 21:11, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages is gayMisplaced Pages

POV and offensive name. SCHZMO 14:03, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Deleted anyway. Kilo-Lima| 18:01, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
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The nominated redirect was Converted to a disambig as there are other Goehring's. -- JLaTondre 10:47, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

GoehringHermann Göring

I'm guessing the sole purpose of this is for an uncyclopedia page Qqqqqqq 14:02, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

  • Keep This one seems useful to me because (a) it's a common English spelling; (b) he's certainly the most famous person of that name. Fan1967 14:25, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
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The nominated redirect was Deleted --Cyde↔Weys 12:58, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Be bald (sic) → Misplaced Pages:Be bold in updating pages

I don't know what my reason for nomination is. Cross-space redirect maybe? Invitatious 13:39, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

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The nominated redirects were redirected to Good faith, except for one, which was redirected to Bad faith. — Jun. 15, '06 <freak|talk>

Assume Good FaithMisplaced Pages:Assume good faith

Also: Assume good intent, Assumed good faith, Assuming bad faith, Assuming good faith. Not specific to Misplaced Pages. Invitatious 13:31, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

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The nominated redirect was all deleted. — Jun. 15, '06 <freak|talk>

Animated Films by Bill PlymptonTemplate:Animated Films by Bill Plympton

CSR to template space. Implausible search as well. Invitatious 13:25, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Appropriate toneMisplaced Pages:Guide to writing better articles

Cross-space redirect. Term does not only apply to Misplaced Pages. Invitatious 13:17, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Anetode/Death-stubTemplate:Death-stub

CSR. Invitatious 02:47, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

And now for something completely different... Bad Jokes and Other Deleted Nonsense!Misplaced Pages:And now for something completely different... Bad Jokes and Other Deleted Nonsense!

Useless unused cross space redirect. Invitatious 02:45, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Aluminum alloysCategory:Aluminium alloys

Cross space redirect. Invitatious 02:40, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Airports in Bosnia and HerzegovinaCategory:Airports in Bosnia and Herzegovina

Cross space redirect. Invitatious 02:31, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Airlines of Bosnia and HerzegovinaCategory:Airlines of Bosnia and Herzegovina

Cross space redirect. Invitatious 02:31, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

AIO category redirectCategory:Adventures in Odyssey

Obvious Invitatious 02:26, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Aerospace museumCategory:Aerospace museums

Cross-space redirect. What should this be changed to? Invitatious 02:21, 15 June 2006 (UTC) Also Air museum. 02:28, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Adolf Hitler/InfoboxTemplate:HitlerInfo

Cross-space redirect. Nothing links here. Invitatious 02:17, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

AdelSuburbBoxTemplate:AdelSuburbBox

Redirect from main space to template. Invitatious 02:17, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

A template for making year pagesMisplaced Pages:Timeline standards

Obvious. Cross-namespace redirect, and implausible search. Invitatious 02:08, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

AB-FedRepTemplate:AB-FedRep et al.

Main space to Template redirect. Invitatious 02:08, 15 June 2006 (UTC) Also nominating BC-FedRep, MB-FedRep, NB-FedRep, NL-FedRep, NS-FedRep, NT-FedRep, NU-FedRep, ON-FedRep, PE-FedRep, PQ-FedRepTemplate:QC-FedRep, QC-FedRep, SK-FedRep, VA-FedRep, YK-FedRepTemplate:YT-FedRep, YT-FedRep. All have the same redirect pattern unless otherwise noted. Invitatious 21:10, 15 June 2006 (UTC) 21:19, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

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The nominated redirect was redirected per below. — Jun. 15, '06 <freak|talk>

AD/CEMisplaced Pages:Manual of Style (dates and numbers)

Should this be changed to AD, CE, or simply deleted? Invitatious 01:46, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

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The nominated redirect was Deleted by Freakofnurture. -- JLaTondre 20:21, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

2012 US Presidential ElectionMisplaced Pages:Votes for deletion/U.S. presidential election, 2012

Redirect from Main space to old VfD discussion. Invitatious 01:36, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

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The nominated redirect was Deleted --Cyde↔Weys 12:55, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

2006 AFL season/LadderTemplate:2006 AFL season/"Simple" Ladder

Unlinked Main space to Template redirect, also 2006 AFL Season/Ladder. Invitatious 01:36, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

2005 Britannica takeover of WikimediaMisplaced Pages:2005 Britannica takeover of Wikimedia

Main space to April Fool's joke redirect. The main space is for encyclopaedic content only. Also nominating other redirects that go to the same place:

Invitatious 01:16, 15 June 2006 (UTC) 13:13, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

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The nominated redirect was Deleted by Freakofnurture. -- JLaTondre 20:21, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

2004 U.S. presidential election controversy/2004 U.S. presidential election controversyMisplaced Pages:Votes for deletion/2004 U.S. presidential election controversy

Main space redirect to old VfD discussion. Invitatious 01:16, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

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The nominated redirect was redirected to 1 (number). — Jun. 15, '06 <freak|talk>

1.0Misplaced Pages:Pushing to 1.0

Cross-namespace redirect. Linked from several software articles not having to do with Misplaced Pages. Invitatious 01:04, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

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The nominated redirect was deleted. — Jun. 15, '06 <freak|talk>

1933 Atlantic hurricane season buttonsTemplate:1933 Atlantic hurricane season buttons et al.

And the following others:

All have the same format target as the main one listed at the top. Useless unlinked Main space to Template space redirects. By the way, there should be a procedure for listing many similar redirects in one nomination on RfD. Invitatious 00:33, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

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The nominated redirect was Deleted by Freakofnurture. -- JLaTondre 20:21, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

1924 songsCategory:1924 songs

Cross-namespace redirect Invitatious 00:09, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

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June 14

The nominated redirect was Deleted by Freakofnurture. -- JLaTondre 20:25, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

League Leader’s ShieldLeague Leader's Shield

Looks like result of wherever the article title was pasted from. Article was moved, leaving this behind. Unlikely search term, to say the least. Fan1967 21:17, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages manual of styleMisplaced Pages:Manual of Style

Cross-namespace redirect SCHZMO 20:23, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages Manual of StyleMisplaced Pages:Manual of Style

Cross-namespace redirect SCHZMO 20:23, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

What Misplaced Pages is notMisplaced Pages:What Misplaced Pages is not

Cross-namespace redirect. SCHZMO 20:20, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

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The nominated redirect was Redirected to Tilde --Cyde↔Weys 18:35, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

] → Misplaced Pages:Sign your posts on talk pages

Cross-namespace redirect. Delete or change redirect to Tilde. (Sorry, I'm having trouble with the links.) SCHZMO 20:05, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

] → Misplaced Pages:Sign your posts on talk pages

Cross-namespace redirect. Delete or change redirect to Tilde. SCHZMO 20:05, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

] → Misplaced Pages:Sign your posts on talk pages

Cross-namespace redirect. Delete or change redirect to Tilde. SCHZMO 20:05, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

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The nominated redirect was Deleted by Freakofnurture. -- JLaTondre 20:25, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

President George W. Bush's anger and resolveGeorge W. Bush

Strange, wordy, and POV name for a redirect. SCHZMO 19:58, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

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The nominated redirect was Deleted and/or redirected --Cyde↔Weys 18:40, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Featured imageMisplaced Pages:Featured pictures

Cross-namespace redirect Mr. Lefty Talk to me! 17:23, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

3RRMisplaced Pages:Three-revert rule

Cross-namespace redirect. WP:3RR should be used instead. Zoz (t) 16:52, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Village pumpMisplaced Pages:Village pump

Cross-namespace redirect. Zoz (t) 16:49, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

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The nominated redirect was Speedy Keep as this belongs at Misplaced Pages:Requested moves instead of here. -- JLaTondre 23:20, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Pan-Iranist partyPan-Iranist Party

It is better to move the article to "party" than "Party" however it is not possible unless the redirect is deleted first. Thanks K a s h 13:43, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

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The nominated redirect was kept. Kimchi.sg 18:01, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Isolasi DNADNA extraction

Non English redirect. So craze tes 10:45, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

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The nominated redirect was Deleted by Freakofnurture. -- JLaTondre 20:25, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Deletion policyMisplaced Pages:deletion policy

Needless cross-namespace redirect. Rory096 03:00, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

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The nominated redirect was Deleted --Cyde↔Weys 18:39, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Featured imagesMisplaced Pages:Featured pictures

Cross-namespace redirect. Mr. Lefty Talk to me! 02:07, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

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The nominated redirect was Deleted by Freakofnurture. -- JLaTondre 20:25, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

"road safety"Road-traffic safety

Same reasoning as for this redirect's alternate capitalisation cousin (nominated for deletion below), "Road safety". In this case, there are no incoming links. User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 01:55, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

"Road safety"Road-traffic safety

I don't think we need to retain redirects that are quotated terms such as this; its not a likely search or direct URL-use term nor would I anticipate uses in the context of articles to require retention of the quotated redirect (there is a single such use now, Seat belt legislation, which I will leave intact pending resolution of this discussion. User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 01:46, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

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June 11

The nominated redirect was Withdrawn by nominator. --Rory096 20:47, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Keith RichardKeith Richards

Currently it redirects to Rolling Stones guitarist, while there is a notable footballer with exactly this name. MaxSem 17:13, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Nomination withdrawn since it looks like that there were no Keith Richard the footballer. MaxSem 16:34, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Keith Richards was known as Keith Richard in his early days. If there is another Keith Richard, then this should be turned into a disambig page. I would do that except that a quick Google search on Keith Richard or Keith Richard football didn't produce any hits that stood out to me. Can you provide more details? -- JLaTondre 17:51, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
See 1958 FIFA World Cup (squads). MaxSem 19:27, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
Just to confuse matters further, FIFA suggests the footballer was actually Richard Keith (which is a redirect to somebody else again :) — sjorford++ 20:34, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
This site (have to expand next to last arrow) also shows his name as Richard Keith. It looks like 1958 FIFA World Cup (squads) should be changed to Richard Keith and Richard Keith changed to a disambig. If there is no disagreement, I'll do that. -- JLaTondre 22:48, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
Absolutely. MaxSem 16:34, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Revise as follows ... If there is a person who is notable enough for an article who goes by the name 'Keith Richard', that article should be entitled 'Keith Richard' and a {{Distinguish}} template used to point at the Keith Richards article (I don't think a reciprocal one would be necessary). If there is not a person who is sufficiently notable for inclusion who is named 'Keith Richard', keep the redirect and tag it with {{R from alternate name}}, as long as the note that 'Richard' was 'Richards' former name is included in the article; if it turns out that this name change did not take place, then tag it with {{R from misspelling}}. In addition, perhaps a {{Distinguish}} template should be added to Keith Richards pointing at Richard Keith, but that might be unnecessary. User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 00:18, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Read the top of this page. "Note: If all you want to do is replace a currently existing redirect with an actual article, you do not need to list it here. Turning redirects into fleshed-out encyclopedic articles is wholly encouraged at Misplaced Pages. Be bold." --Rory096 00:52, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
I wasn't going to write an article about him, I simply noticed misleading link while filling this category with existing articles. MaxSem 09:24, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
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The nominated redirect was Nominator removed the RfD tag, which is the same thing he did with the one below, so withdrawn. --Rory096 20:46, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Frank bennettFrank Bennett

Same as below. Personally I'll be more careful creating articles, but I'm not sure I understand the procedure for capitalization redirects (it seems below that this type of request for deletion is generally denied). I'd imagine that many users don't use any capitalization in searches, and thus an intermediate redirect would be sort of pointless. Inarcadiaego 16:49, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

  • Keep The first letter is automatically capitalized, so if someone entered 'frank bennett' as a search term, it would give you the first article. Cowman109 17:53, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete unneeded redirect as "frank benett" will go directly to "Frank Bennett" without this, and with it simply uses a redirect. (Mixed captialasation issues in WP:REDIRECT do not apply for this as they did for the CoES (below) (This redirect was up for afd, which I closed as a speedy close) Regards, MartinRe 21:29, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep as "frank benett" will not go to "Frank Bennett" when it's typed into the address bar (i.e. http://en.wikipedia.org/Frank_bennett). Not everyone uses the go button and since it's already created, there's no need to delete. Redirects are cheap. -- JLaTondre 22:54, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
    • I understand what you're saying, but do enough people search for articles by typing in the address bar that it's worth it to keep a redirect that we all seem to agree is pointless (and unnecessary according to WP:REDIRECT and MartinRe's comment)? I don't think (m)any other similar titles have redirects on here. Inarcadiaego 01:48, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
      • Some do, some don't. john smith does, for example. Having the redirect allows entry from the title bar, and lower case wiki-links, but also uses a redirct if typed from the go bar. nothing significant either way, I wouldn't create one, but I also wouldn't rfd one if I found one. But as it was rfd'd I lean towards delete, as while redirects are cheap, doing lots of unneeded cheap things can mount up. Regards, MartinRe 11:22, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep and tag with {{R from other capitalisation}}. User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 00:20, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep. Although unlikely, this redirect is not confusing or offensive in any manner, and redirects are cheap. Grandmasterka 05:45, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
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The nominated redirect was Withdrawn by nominator. --Rory096 04:16, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Council for european studiesCouncil for European Studies

Simple capitalization error in creating the article. Searches for "council for european studies" should go directly to the correctly capitalized article; the original redirect doesn't need to exist. Inarcadiaego 15:51, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

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The nominated redirect was redirected to equalization filter. Kimchi.sg 13:35, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Shelving filterBand-stop filter

Shelving filters or Shelf filters are not band-stop filters. someone should create a good Shelving filter article (and someone started to, but it wasn't very good) but, until they do, it's misinformation to equate to BSF. no information is better than wrong information. r b-j 02:27, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Why not change target to Electronic filter in the mean time? --KJ 04:43, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
Or Equalization filter. --KJ 04:45, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
And tag with {{R with possibilities}}. --Rory096 20:48, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
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The nominated redirect was Speedy deleted by Academic Challenger (talkcontribsblocksprotectsdeletionsmoves)

Ckatz/Workspace/TemplatesUser:Ckatz/Workspace/Templates

Created by mistake in the main space; thanks to Dancter for catching this. Ckatz 05:18, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

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The nominated redirect was deleted. Kimchi.sg 16:32, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Copper High SchoolRobbinsdale Cooper High School

RFD1 tag applied by Schulte on 08-June, but not listed here. Rationale of typo -- incorrect name provided in edit summary.

  • Delete. While we normally keep misspelling redirects, Copper is a word itself and it possible there is a Copper High School which means this redirect would actually create confusion. -- JLaTondre 13:42, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. My apologies for not listing it here. When Gephart was creating the redirect, he simply made a typo with the name. --Schulte 18:28, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
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The nominated redirect was deleted. Kimchi.sg 16:34, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Rabah ZobeirZobeir

RFD1 tag applied by Ori Redler on 04-June, but not listed here as RFD2 tag was mistakenly added to article. Rationale of It's not the right person. Rabah Zobeir should direct to "RABAH ZOBEIR" which was actually a slave of Zobeir Pasha.

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June 10

The nominated redirect was corrected to point to Xserve RAID. Kimchi.sg 10:48, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

RAID AdminRAID

was tagged for speedy as "implausible typo. RAID Admin is Mac OS X software and is different from RAID". I don't know if it should rather be re-redirected elsewhere, so I bring this here. Kusma (討論) 20:19, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

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The nominated redirect was kept and changed to point to continuity. Kimchi.sg 18:13, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

ContinouosZero and First Order Holds

misspelling that is non sequitur of redirect topic. target article should go, too. r b-j 05:50, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

boy, i sure thought i filled out the template correctly, but it reversed the articles. i fixed it here. r b-j 14:43, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
should every misspelling of every word have a WP article or redirect? perhaps the common misspellings of noteworthy topic names, but not every misspelling. r b-j 18:29, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
do to it want you want. i think it should disappear. it dumbs down WP. r b-j 02:27, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
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June 9

The nominated redirect was kept. Kimchi.sg 16:29, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

AcucullophalliaCircumcision

Made-up term does not exist in any dictionary, save dubious 'web dictionaries' Jakew 13:39, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

  • After looking at websites I never want to see again, it's a slang term meaning sexual arousal by circumcison. :\ It probably should be deleted'. And if notable, gain a page. Yanksox 05:05, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per above - not a sensible redirect. PJM 05:11, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per above. Lose the extra weight, it's not needed... Shenme 19:31, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep per User:Dabljuh/teusp and discussion at Talk:Circumcision. — Scm83x 20:08, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep. The word appears in at least one well-known printed book (cited at circumcision, unless Jakew has recently culled it). Also, note that above there seems to have been some confusion between acucullophallia (the redirect page) and acucullophilia, a different word which means "sexual arousal by circumcision." Acucullophallia means "the state of being circumcised", so the redirect is quite sensible. Further, the redirect seems to be needed, as it was created as a requested article. Wizard @ 07:07, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Strong keep Both web and print citations show that the word exists and is a synonym for "circumcised". The hostility towards this term stems from confusion with "acucullophilia", which refers to a fetish for circumcised men. This confusion has been cleared up on the circumcision page, which now briefly mentions both terms in the lead. Of course, this mention is further reason to keep the redirect. Al 14:18, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
    • Comment Actually, the 'hostility' stems from no such thing - there's no indication that there is or was any confusion between the two. The objection to the term is as stated - that no definition can be found in any credible dictionary (the term is mentioned in passing in one book, but is not defined). So we are left with the situation that we have no reliable source telling us what it means - hence it should not be included. Jakew 15:54, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
      • Unfortunately, this is simply false. We know exactly what it means and there is no doubt whatsoever on this issue. Worse, you know it's false, so this appears to be intentional deception. Al 16:26, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
        • If there is no doubt as to what it means, then why are you unable to cite a WP:RS giving a definition? Why do you insist instead upon citing a 'source' to support the claimed definition that does not even define the term? Jakew 16:32, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
      • I listed three on the talk page. Your response, of course, is to deny that they're WP:RS and then to ignore the etymology on top of that. This is not an honest response. Al 18:48, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
        • I agree - I did indeed state that they were not reliable sources. Furthermore, the theory of the etymology is original research (partly my own), and cannot therefore be included. Finally, please review WP:CIVIL and WP:FAITH. Accusing me of dishonesty is unacceptable behaviour, whether you agree with my views or not. Jakew 18:58, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
      • Whatever. There is clearly no consensus for deletion, so I'm not going to debate this further. Al 23:10, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
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June 8

The nominated redirect was keep. Kimchi.sg 16:26, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Software Devlopment ProcessSoftware Development Process

worthless typo MaxEnt 04:50, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

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The nominated redirects were deleted. Kimchi.sg 18:09, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Talk:X-Men:_The_Last_Stand/Archive2Talk:X-Men:_The_Last_Stand/Archive 2

unneeded redirect --Facto 02:42, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Talk:X-Men:_The_Last_Stand/Archive1Talk:X-Men:_The_Last_Stand/Archive 1

unneeded redirect --Facto 02:42, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

  • Keep: For both of these I have to say that the page titles look similar enough to me that entering the redirect into the search engine could be a forseeable problem. Deathawk 23:56, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
they are useless redirects to talk page archives. The original archives were improperly named Archive1 and Archive2 (without the spaces) so I had to move them to Archive 1 and Archive 2. --Facto 00:02, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
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The nominated redirect was keep. Kimchi.sg 16:24, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Kepone toxinKepone

Kepone is poison, but is not a toxin (see the toxin article why, kepone is synthetic. Unlikely search target. No links. No useful history (only pagemove redirect, fix and rfd. Polonium 23:40, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

  • Keep there are a handful of "Kepone toxin" finds on Google...not hurting anything, plausible —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Adambiswanger1 (talkcontribs) .
  • Keep. If someone made this mistake before, someone will make it again. This redirect prevents the creation of redundant and inaccurate articles. Johnleemk | Talk 11:20, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
No. Kepone is not a toxin. This redirect is activly harmful, because it claims that kepone is a toxin. The redirect should be deleted and the page protected to prevent recreation. Polonium 23:20, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
Well, the toxin article says people use the word to describe all poisons, whether they be organic or synthetic. If some people think that should be discouraged, I think the redirect (which deletes an occurrence of "toxin") actually helps in this case. --KJ 02:06, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
So we should delete Dubya to discourage references to Bush as Dubya? Terminological errors like these are the reason we have redirects. Saying this title endorses the categorisation of Kepone as a toxin is like saying the existence of Dubya endorses calling Bush by that nickname or that the existence of misspelling redirects endorse the misspelling of certain names. Johnleemk | Talk 10:32, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
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June 7

The nominated redirect was no consensus - default to keep. Kimchi.sg 12:25, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Mixed expresswayRIRO expressway

This term is not in common use, and there is no obvious target for it. --SPUI (T - C) 16:32, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

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The nominated redirect was delete. Kimchi.sg 16:19, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Textpert & Textperts82ASK

Neologism, seems to be used solely for advertising by Re5ult, aka 82ASK. ArglebargleIV 04:58, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

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The nominated redirect was kept and corrected to point to Rob Zicari. Kimchi.sg 18:07, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Extreme VideoExtreme Video

Redirects to itself (loop) WillMak050389 11:53, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

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The nominated redirect was deleted. Kimchi.sg 18:04, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Kady GoldlistONE Family Fund

A bit of a mess. The creation of the redirect was a result of an AFD, but in hindsight there seems no benefit (indeed, no rhyme or reason) to the redirect since Ms Goldlist is not mentioned in the article (and seems not notable enough to be added). The redirect has already been blanked once by another contributor (I found it as an empty page). Arguably the AFD's "merge" consensus has been satisfied, because one of the external links on the ONE Family Fund article has a reference to Kady Goldlist as a donor. RobertGtalk 15:41, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

  • Ehhh...Keep...weakly, if people are searching for "Kady Goldlist," they're probably looking for OFF, so I'm weakily saying keep. Yanksox 05:17, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Strong Delete, her name brings up a whopping 35 google hits. I can't imagine that any significant number of people would be searchign for her- pm_shef 22:27, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
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The nominated redirect was kept. Kimchi.sg 18:03, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Paul KitchenRothesay Netherwood School

Was previously up for deletion as non-notable. It was changed to a redirect instead of deletion. Paul Kitchen is the current head of the school. Up until today, there was link from the school article to the Paul Kitchen article (which of course redirected back to the school article). Usgnus 19:58, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

  • Keep and just don't link to it. Anyone who searches for Paul Kitchen might benefit from the school's article, so it's good. It also helps prevent recreation of that article. --Rory096 20:02, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
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