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Swami Satyananda

There are numerous issues I have with this page. Firstly, there are a couple of discrepancies on the page - it has 2 different dates for Satyananda starting the International Yoga Fellowship (1956 and 1963) - this organisation does nothing that I am aware of, so why is it there anyway - Secondly is the Bihar School of Yoga - was it 1963 or 1964 when it started? Thirdly, most of the statements on the page are sourced from Satyananda's own books about himself and there is no-one alive to prove or disprove them. Members of his Ashram support his statements and continually re-publish them. Reports of several members of Sivananda's Divine Life Society who knew Satyananda there (not published) say other things. The material on sexual assault can be divided into 2. That of Swami Akhandananda in Australia went through the courts so there will be records. Allegations against Sw Satyananda and others remains statements by individuals that has not been before courts or been published. What should be left in and what removed? Sanatan Saraswati 203.171.95.168 (talk) 05:11, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

I suggest we discuss this at the Swami Satyananda talk page, okay? Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 06:54, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks

For watching my back. Funny couple of days. The guy who took me to ANI is a pain - new editor with 64 edits who thinks he knows it all (unless he's a sock, which is possible and ironic if he is). The IP just seems to be another denier. Dougweller (talk) 13:46, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

You'r welcome, of course. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 14:03, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

hi Joshua

Namaskaram ,hi Joshua how are you?i hope you are fine as like ever.:).could you participate with the below talk page Discussion called

Neo-advaita

Hi Joshua, with regards to the Advaita-vedanta template, although neo-Advaita partly came out of Papaji's teachings, he himself is of Ramana's time, and I don't believe should be grouped (in this instance) with with Gangaji and co. Just like Raphael wouldn't be grouped with the pre-raphaelite movement. Raphael may have had an influence on their philosophy and this should of course be duly noted in places, but he himself was nonetheless a renaissance painter and should therefore be grouped with Da Vinci, Botticelli and co. Best, Bodhadeepika (talk) 08:24, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Hm, I don't think I agree here, but that's my personal opinion (or preference). Poonja seems to have been a great stimulans in the spread of neo-Advaita, giving all those people the idea that they were fully enlightened etc. So I'd prefer to group him under "neo-Advaita". But again, that's my opinion, though based on some literature, namely Schwarz. But Schwarz is definitely not a secondary source, so we're all together here among us, believers. And yes, the term "neo-Advaita" has degrinatory undertones. No "smooth" solution here, I'm afraid. "Pop-Advaita" could also be used, but that's even more insulting. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 08:34, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Oh, that's elegant! Placing him under neo-Vedanta. Good! Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 08:36, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Cool! :) Also, good stuff working on the Satyananda article. His was the first book that really got me hooked. 'Sure Ways To Self-Realization'. I was never big into the Bihar School of Yoga, but I visited his ashram in 2003 in Bihar, and I liked him. He was there. He had a nice energy. 86.31.77.127 (talk) 08:48, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Oops, forgot to log in! 86.31.77.127 is Bodhadeepika Bodhadeepika (talk) 08:49, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks

I get very few of those! I think you may be rather more deserving one than I am given your sustained efforts. Paul B (talk) 12:00, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Oh no. I'm aware of my itchy responses; your behavior reminds me to stay civil. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 12:04, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Babasaheb Ambedkar

Hello Adorable Joshua, Your recents edits have been reverted by me. I want to inform you something about him.

First Law minister of India - Dr.Ambedkar . (Is Indian Lawyer a better name?) It should be Jurist. Father of Indian Constitution (Largest Indian Democracy) - Dr. Ambedkar . (Is this line to be removed?) Philosopher - He wrote several books on Buddhism such as Buddha or Karl Marx, Buddha and his Dhamma etc., Riddles in Hinduism etc. (Words were removed)

Barack Obama praised him when he came to India. Noble Prize Winner Amartya Sen calls him his father in Economics. (Economist) The Table concering his writings and speeches were removed without any proper justification. Please dont revert those changes. Why am I in trouble as you mentioned? Your's sincerely. Sid Siddheart (talk) 19:55, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

By the way . Wow..You are a Buddhist...I am very happy to know that but please edit Dr.Ambedkar page care fully.. you are removing his tables of writings. My salutation for you by the way.  :) Siddheart (talk) 20:43, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi Siddheart. Thanks for your salutation; I aprreciate that. And my salutation back to you too. I understand that dr. Ambedkar is important for the Buddhists in India. I've seen some of the social clashes going on in India also happening here at Misplaced Pages. My sympathies are with the Dalits. Nevertheless, if there is a concensus to avoid a long list in the lead, than that should be respected. Also, I think he doesn't need it. True greatness is self-sufficient, even if others attack it. Let the man and his deeds speak for themself. Best regards, Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 06:48, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Spirituality

Hi, I've added a section in the talk pages defending my changes to the lead. All my changes are referenced and I hope after consideration you may change your mind, or at least we can have a healthy discussion on the talk page about improvements. Thanks! 22:45, 2 June 2014‎ user:Bhny

I'll have a look; thnaks for the message. Don't get me wrong on these issues; definitions are highly appreciated, but this is humanities, not maths or physics. And these topics attract a lot of syncretistic enthusiasts, who think that spirituality, mysticism, nondualism etc. all boil down to "union with the Divine", and that all religions have the same "mystical" "essence". It's this kind of enthusiastic syncreticism which I'm countering at those articles. Best regards, Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 06:52, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Fire temple

Hello Joshua -- I just wondered if you would take a look at the latest edit to Fire temple. An editor removed a picture with no explanation. CorinneSD (talk) 21:54, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Editor's Barnstar
	Hello Joshua -- I am very new to Misplaced Pages. I am learning. It is interesting. Thinks for your help. TraceyWonder (talk) 05:48, 3 June 2014 (UTC)