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| == https://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Persecution_of_Hindus#Request_for_comments == | |||
| {{help me-helped}} I have requested comments from others at https://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Persecution_of_Hindus#Request_for_comments. How do I ask others for help without being pulled up for canvassing (I've already read the matter at https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment)? The mob killed many Hindus in and around the temple and so, I want that section restored.—] (]) 04:56, 24 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :] and notifications at community places, such as ], fall within the appropriate means of gathering community participation as explained at ]. Where you will draw problems in terms of canvassing would be to notify individuals at places where you know or even believe would benefit only one side of the discussion. I would strongly discourage you to notify people off-Misplaced Pages. You will also need to ensure that when you notify people that you do not present your own argument with out equally and fairly presenting the other side. Generally people avoid this by simply notifying people that a discussion regarding a certain topic is taking place and do not mention your own preference of the situation. Your RFC borderlines on this. ]] 05:28, 24 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| Hello. I posted a reply to your question here . Better late than never. ] (]) 14:10, 28 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| == AE notice == | |||
| Hello Khabboos. I have filed an Arbitration Enforcement request related to your recent edits ]. -- ] <sup>]</sup> 14:06, 16 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| ::O.K., thanks!—] (]) 14:22, 18 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| 3. If they are internet links, they have to work at the time you post them.--] (]) 21:14, 17 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :O.K., thanks!—] (]) 14:22, 18 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| :O.K., thanks!—] (]) 16:21, 19 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| Either enable email or mail me, I believe you to be a sock of a currently banned user, but as I am not positive I would prefer to keep it off wiki. ] (]) 23:20, 19 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :I created this User ID (Khabboos) only in Jan. this year and have made some edits with my I.P. before that. Does that make me a sock - please educate me about that? I have enabled my e-mail, so pls do e-mail me. Thanks!—] (]) 13:34, 20 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::I got your e-mail. I am not a 'sock' of that user at all, so stop harassing me.—] (]) 13:57, 21 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| :O.K., thank you!—] (]) 13:55, 21 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| ==Khan, M.A. (2009), Islamic Jihad: A Legacy of Forced Conversion, Imperialism, and Slavery== | |||
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| I am not being hostile. I know it seems that way. But I want to try to help you to make good edits that stand up, and do not have to be reverted.--] (]) 19:37, 23 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
| : It is ref#30 at ] Toddy1!—] (]) 19:43, 23 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::So you admit that you have not actually looked at this book?--] (]) 23:24, 23 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::How can you expect me to go, buy and look at the book?—] (]) 18:59, 24 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::::You should not be citing sources that you have not read.--] (]) 22:51, 24 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| I warned you that the next time I caught you making crap up this would happen. ] (]) 15:59, 24 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| To clarify, this means Islam related to any one of these countries, not necessarily all of them. <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 05:52, 26 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
| * Khabboos, your topic ban was after community discussion. You are making an appeal using the '''same argument that was declined''' in the enforcement action. By making that appeal in that manner, you're risking further additional sanctions. You'd be wise to follow the topic ban process - edit ''outside'' that area for at least 3 months, make significant, positive contributions and have positive interactions with others. In 3 months, if you've done the above, then appeal. Right now you risk having your ability to appeal removed. I'd remove it quickly if I were you <span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]]</span> 09:21, 26 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::O.K., thank you Sir!—] (]) 09:29, 26 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::Can you please explain to me what all articles I'm topic banned from (none of the links provided by Sandstein show me that). Can I post on the Talk page of those articles?—] (]) 09:32, 26 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::Please also let me know if these references for 'forced conversions' are acceptable to be added to other articles (both citations mention 'forced conversions')?:<nowiki> <ref> Timur's memoirs on his invasion of India; describes in detail the massacre of Hindus, forced conversions to Islam and the plunder of the wealth of Hindustan (India). Compiled in the book: "]", by Sir H. M. Elliot, Edited by John Dowson; London, Trubner Company; 1867–1877</ref> </nowiki><b>and</b><nowiki> <ref name="Gier">Nicholas F. Gier, ''FROM MONGOLS TO MUGHALS: RELIGIOUS VIOLENCE IN INDIA 9TH-18TH CENTURIES'', Presented at the Pacific Northwest Regional Meeting American Academy of Religion, Gonzaga University, May 2006 </ref></nowiki>—] (]) 09:40, 26 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| ::::] You can write things that do not mention Islam or Moslems. | |||
| ::::] If you feel that you must write about Moslems, then write about Moslems in other countries - but very careful iy you do this.--] (]) 18:24, 26 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::::Which means I can edit the articles on ], ] and ], as long as I don't write about muslims and avoid OR, right? What about the article on ]?—] (]) 22:01, 26 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| If you're going to use the AE appeal form, then you need to appeal it on AE, not on ] <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 18:17, 14 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :I have moved it to moved to ], which I believe is the correct page.--] (]) 18:26, 14 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| I told you and yet you continue to spread your bizarre take on wp policies to other CAM talk pages. Until you understand what you are talking about, you are in no position to go around advising others. ] <small>]</small> 14:38, 24 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :I was only linking to '''your''' statement, LSD!—] (]) 15:24, 24 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| ::: I have removed those sections as spam. -- ] (]) 04:51, 25 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::::I have replaced it with this sentence,"If you don't like the way this article is presented, please do what LeadSongDog says here", which will then avoid the accusation of spamming (because I've put that only on one discussion/Talk page, which only tells the user to do what you, "LSD" said)!—] (]) 13:49, 26 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::::Really, still spewing the same nonsense at ], despite repeated requests to stop? You are not helping anyone, least of all yourself. ] <small>]</small> 02:23, 30 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::::: I agree. As a newbie, you are in no position to be advising others (and spamming that advice) about policies which you barely understand. LSD has repeatedly expressed displeasure with you doing so, and especially with referring to him in that connection. Just comment and edit without doing such things. When you get quite a bit more experience, then you'll be prepared to give advice. -- ] (]) 03:02, 30 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::At ], it says, "There are three main types of spam on Misplaced Pages. These are: advertisements masquerading as articles; external link spamming; and adding references with the aim of promoting the author or the work being referenced." I'm merely telling newcomers that if they don't like the way the article is presented, they should do what you, '''LeadSongDog''' says and linking to what you said. Please tell me what rules I have broken.—] (]) 14:52, 1 July 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| == Persecution of Hindus == | |||
| <s>You did not respond to my email, so I am posting here; can you tell me why I shouldn't report you for ?</s> ] (]) 06:12, 30 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| : Apologies, after re-reading your t-ban one last time it would appear that you are outside it, but only just. ] (]) 06:14, 30 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :: ], should the topic ban be extended to apply to all such topics, regardless of country? -- ] (]) 06:28, 30 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::The reason I posted this was that in the multitude of sanctions this user has received, I lost track of the precise nature of their t-ban, and thought they had violated it. I have not encountered them outside the India-Pakistan-Afghanistan area, because that is my primary overlap with them; so, I can't comment on their behaviour elsewhere. ] (]) 06:42, 30 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::::], I have not violated my TBan, so you can't report me for it (besides it was just a comment on a Talk Page). I did read your e-mail to me, but my wife suddenly wanted me to take her somewhere and so I couldn't reply to your e-mail then and it slipped my mind after that. | |||
| :::::], I don't think my TBan can be extended unless I make another mistake - is it possible?—] (]) 14:43, 1 July 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::::: I don't know the history of your topic ban, but if you were to exercise the same types of behavior (which got you topic banned) in articles about other nations, then the ban could be extended to the subject, regardless of nation. Topic bans usually include mention of the subject, even on one's own talk page. It would be the behavior, not just the nations, which would be the target of the topic ban. So, be careful to avoid anything that is even similar to such behavior. If you do that, you should be okay. -- ] (]) 14:52, 1 July 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::OK, thanks ]—] (]) 14:55, 1 July 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::], As you must have noticed, I apologised above for mis-reading the terms of your ban. Although since you don't seem to be aware of it, a talk page comment can also be a ban violation; in this case it only wasn't because you spoke of malaysia. ] (]) 04:16, 2 July 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::::I'm aware of it, thanks for the warning anyway.—] (]) 17:35, 2 July 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| :I haven't yet broken the rules with respect to the ] article, but I will be careful!—] (]) 15:05, 4 July 2014 (UTC) | |||
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Please be aware that articles related to the topic of homeopathy are specifically included in the scope of the 'fringe science' arbitration decision. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 14:38, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
- I haven't yet broken the rules with respect to the homeopathy article, but I will be careful!—Khabboos (talk) 15:05, 4 July 2014 (UTC)