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| ::You fail to acknowledge she has also acted on many television series, which are watched by millions of people globally.] (]) 21:30, 15 September 2014 (UTC) | ::You fail to acknowledge she has also acted on many television series, which are watched by millions of people globally.] (]) 21:30, 15 September 2014 (UTC) | ||
| :::You fail to acknowledge that these were all minor roles. ] (]) 21:43, 15 September 2014 (UTC) | :::You fail to acknowledge that these were all minor roles. ] (]) 21:43, 15 September 2014 (UTC) | ||
| ::::Could you please be more specific about why you claim her roles are "minor" when they are seen by millions on TV and on film? Thank you.] (]) 23:42, 15 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Delete''' ] requires "significant roles in multiple films, television shows...." As she has mostly has minor roles, she has yet to met WP:NACTOR yet. ] does not necessarily change that.-- ] <sup>]</sup> <sub>]</sub> 23:11, 15 September 2014 (UTC) | *'''Delete''' ] requires "significant roles in multiple films, television shows...." As she has mostly has minor roles, she has yet to met WP:NACTOR yet. ] does not necessarily change that.-- ] <sup>]</sup> <sub>]</sub> 23:11, 15 September 2014 (UTC) | ||
| :Could you please be more specific about why you claim her roles are "minor"? Thank you.] (]) 23:37, 15 September 2014 (UTC) | :::Could you please be more specific about why you claim her roles are "minor" when they are seen by millions on TV and on film? Thank you.] (]) 23:37, 15 September 2014 (UTC) | ||
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Film/TV actress with only minor roles. Mostly covered in the news lately, for a minor story, that's likely to result in undue negative content. (Some editors, who added hearsay from poor sources, have added that she is "best known" for this.) Specifically, for being handcuffed by the LAPD while with her partner, according to her account because she was mistaken for a prostitute. —innotata 20:45, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- Strong Keep. As I tried to explain on the talkpage, I created this stub because she has acted on film and television. She is "best known" (not necessarily famous) for acting in Django Unchained, because it was an internationally distributed film. She has also appeared on many television series, which are also shown internationally. I added the "incident" to the "personal life" section because it is a minor event (indeed, an incident), but it did get international coverage in the press (for example, in France). I believe she is notable as an actress, regardless of the incident. I would recommend keeping this page and hopefully expanding it, as it is a mere stub. When/where was she born, etc.Zigzig20s (talk) 20:52, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- It's up to you to establish her notability as an actress by adding sources and content. She doesn't seem notable to a non-expert, looking at articles like Django Unchained. The international coverage of the police incident isn't relevant to her notability, as it's just coverage of an isolated event, and not a very significant one at all. —innotata 21:13, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, upon creating the article, I added references for her acting work on Django but also several other films and television series, which are watched by millions of people globally. It's also a stub, which means it is a work in process which should be expanded.Zigzig20s (talk) 21:27, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- To establish that she's notable, you need to add sources with coverage of her career, and a bit of content too. All the more so, with the police incident and negative coverage of her. —innotata 21:35, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- The article is fully sourced, but it is a stub. Help us expand it with more referenced info if you want. Otherwise, hopefully others will expand the page too. Misplaced Pages is a collaborative effort, and a work in progress. Don't tell me what to do or try to start a fight. I also don't think her page should be deleted because she is black--she is an actress seen on screen by millions of people--no need to debase her work. Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 21:45, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- Assume good faith, please! I brought this to AfD because this is person who didn't seem notable (and still doesn't), and because the article has little more than the police incident, so it needs more scrutiny to ensure we aren't providing inappropriate, negative coverage of the subject. I guess race, perhaps, means it's more likely we'll get vandalism/POV-pushing. It's quite OK for the article to be a stub, and lack detail, but it needs to establish the subject's notability in some way. Adding more coverage of the police incident, because it has mentions of her acting career, doesn't help with that. —innotata 23:10, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- I think deleting her page may be seen by some as racist. I'm sure you're not, but the process may be misconstrued as such. Would her page really have been suggested for deletion if she were white? As I said, she is an actress seen by millions on TV and on the big screen.Zigzig20s (talk) 23:40, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- Assume good faith, please! I brought this to AfD because this is person who didn't seem notable (and still doesn't), and because the article has little more than the police incident, so it needs more scrutiny to ensure we aren't providing inappropriate, negative coverage of the subject. I guess race, perhaps, means it's more likely we'll get vandalism/POV-pushing. It's quite OK for the article to be a stub, and lack detail, but it needs to establish the subject's notability in some way. Adding more coverage of the police incident, because it has mentions of her acting career, doesn't help with that. —innotata 23:10, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- The article is fully sourced, but it is a stub. Help us expand it with more referenced info if you want. Otherwise, hopefully others will expand the page too. Misplaced Pages is a collaborative effort, and a work in progress. Don't tell me what to do or try to start a fight. I also don't think her page should be deleted because she is black--she is an actress seen on screen by millions of people--no need to debase her work. Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 21:45, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- To establish that she's notable, you need to add sources with coverage of her career, and a bit of content too. All the more so, with the police incident and negative coverage of her. —innotata 21:35, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, upon creating the article, I added references for her acting work on Django but also several other films and television series, which are watched by millions of people globally. It's also a stub, which means it is a work in process which should be expanded.Zigzig20s (talk) 21:27, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- It's up to you to establish her notability as an actress by adding sources and content. She doesn't seem notable to a non-expert, looking at articles like Django Unchained. The international coverage of the police incident isn't relevant to her notability, as it's just coverage of an isolated event, and not a very significant one at all. —innotata 21:13, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- Delete: Famous for a police incident in which she may or not not have been accused of being a prostitute. A minor role in a film does not equate to notability. RealDealBillMcNeal (talk) 21:09, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- You fail to acknowledge she has also acted on many television series, which are watched by millions of people globally.Zigzig20s (talk) 21:30, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- You fail to acknowledge that these were all minor roles. RealDealBillMcNeal (talk) 21:43, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- Could you please be more specific about why you claim her roles are "minor" when they are seen by millions on TV and on film? Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 23:42, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- You fail to acknowledge that these were all minor roles. RealDealBillMcNeal (talk) 21:43, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- You fail to acknowledge she has also acted on many television series, which are watched by millions of people globally.Zigzig20s (talk) 21:30, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- Delete WP:NACTOR requires "significant roles in multiple films, television shows...." As she has mostly has minor roles, she has yet to met WP:NACTOR yet. One incident does not necessarily change that.-- danntm C 23:11, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- Could you please be more specific about why you claim her roles are "minor" when they are seen by millions on TV and on film? Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 23:37, 15 September 2014 (UTC)