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Africa Movie Academy Awards

Do you have proof that some of these categories are going to be discontinued in 2013 and 2014? FYI, the article has a section for discontinued categories. You cannot add original research to articles on Misplaced Pages per WP:OR. 00:16, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Where does common sense tell you that original research is being involved when if there is a category for something such as an award that has been given out over time and someone has vreated such an article of section for that award yet no where except by going into the article is there any indication of what years span there is covered by that article or section. That is not original research. That is "X" article or section has "X" information. What point is there to making two moves when one will do? When I am searching out information the last thing I want to have to do is look at EVERYTHING to find out just where I need to look when all it takes is a competent compiler to indicate just what is in the article/section. You do not create an article on "Mental capability" leaving it to the reader to have to go to EVERY article/section on MENTAL CAPABILITY when if there is a "yours" article, a "his" article or a "mine" article. It does not matter when an award was started or when it was discontinued. All that matters is a centralized source of information or routing through that article.66.74.176.59 (talk) 00:25, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Again, how do you know that some of the current categories were discontinued this year or last year? If you want to help improve the article, you can include the year in which the AMAA started handing out awards for each category in the current category section. Use the Academy Awards article as a guide. If you choose not to do so, your revision will be reverted sooner or later. Versace1608 (Talk) 00:33, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

When your article uses indefinite language it is best to describe year span.66.74.176.59 (talk) 00:42, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

If you add a timespan to each category in the said category, you are implying that the category started X year and ended X year. The categories in the current category section are ongoing. They have not been discontinued and won't be anytime soon. Versace1608 (Talk) 00:48, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

And when you use indefinite language you are stating that is could or it could not be there?66.74.176.59 (talk) 00:50, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

I don't know what you mean by that. Let me ask you a simple question. How would you interpret this statement: Michael Jackson's recording career: 1967–2009? Versace1608 (Talk) 01:01, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

• 66.74.176.59, stop making copyedits to articles and in the process distorting the meanings or committing grammatical errors.--Jamie Tubers (talk) 01:09, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

That is not an indefinite statement? What is your point of using a wrong example to state your point.

The following is the use of two examples of indefinite language. If you are unable to see that and the confusing that can result when someone is seeking out particular year range(s) of information then I really do not know what I can help you with?

"As of 2014, the Africa Movie Academy Awards have approximately 26 categories. Some of these include:"66.74.176.59 (talk) 01:12, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

If the use of "approximate" and "some" are good indications of what is there then I must have missed a day or two of composition. That is not appropriate to WP standards.66.74.176.59 (talk) 01:14, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

• I'm not exactly referring to AMAA article. I mean everyother article you're editing; including I'll Take My Chances and "Cinema of Africa".--Jamie Tubers (talk) 01:23, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Is there some type of African continental English or Nigerian English as after reviewing some of the cited sources the publishing was in British spelling but sometimes of a composition style that was absent words to be found in the other types of publications. And then I read the plots iin the film articles and there seems to be something up with those expressions, including capitalization of pronouns, etc that seems rather unexplained from what I have read. Is this common and could someone suggest a master's thesis or dissertation submitted to an African University in English that I could read to get a better understanding about the writing style?66.74.176.59 (talk) 11:12, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

September 2014

This is the final warning that you will receive regarding continued genre changing without discussion or sources. If you choose to continue, as you did at Africa Movie Academy Awards, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Versace1608 (Talk) 01:15, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

If this is a shared IP address, and you did not make the edits, consider creating an account for yourself so you can avoid further irrelevant notices.

When did bullying become an accepted form of saying you are right and others are wrong. The very use of use a tactic shows that you are point is baseless. Stick to the question at hand.66.74.176.59 (talk) 01:18, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

@66.74.176.59: User: Jamie Tubers just made the right edit to the page. This is what you should have done instead of adding a timespan. Versace1608 (Talk) 01:22, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

The need to change it was recognized and it has been done. My job with that is probably over. Move on please instead of evoking that "you do everything wrong" stance. Okay? I never asked to be your flavor of the day. Just when was it implemented that your decision was right and that it was not necessary for you to change what had been proposed but criticize someone was doing something that in the end was accepted? Your attitude is not appreciated in a cooperative environment.

I don't get you. The changes you made to the article were not right. You were reverted on three different occasions. I asked you a simple question which you refused to answer. No one is trying to evoke anything here. FYI, if an edit of yours was reverted by another user, you must either leave a note on the article's talk page or the user's. If a single user reverts an edit three times in a span of 24 hours, that editor can get block for breaking Misplaced Pages's WP:3RR. Versace1608 (Talk) 01:42, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

This is a cooperative effort? If so then stop the attitude and recommend to others what would be appropriate instead of a revert and then move on. You both decided to challenge instead of assist. If you know netter then use that to the benefit of WP. Again, the attitude? That is not needed in a cooperative effort. Reverting is an attitude. It does not take the best to make the article better for WP's sake. Instead it presents your views and actions as mandatory as to be part of the WP community. It does not work that way. Sorry if you feel differently but that is to be expected from those that have worked often and long in that manner in the WP effort. So please, I have moved on because what I encountered has been clarified. Can you move on? Otherwise, you have a problem that the solution of which is within you. MOVE ON! Merely by the perception that you have more experience and/or knowledge or status (within WP) does not mean that you can bully others. Reverting without taking what is good to make the article better is an aggressive move that is tantamount in psychological terms as bullying. The outcome of situation shows that there was a problem with the article, I provided a suggestion and you two reverted w/o taking the good that eventually evolved out of the situation. So. can you see that there was a problem, there were solutions proposed (according to the WP cooperative effort), they were shot down and yet what happened--there was change that supported my original position. You can say and do whatever you want about how you REALLY d=feel about the actions and views of others but I will not stand for being bullied. No person in their right mind would do so. So maybe it best for you to understand that I am not one to let bullying persist. If I see an example of someone being reverted and there being even one gob or usefulness to the proposal of the other I will in most likelihood support the person that has been reverted. That is the WP way of a cooperative effort. Sorry if you disagree with this very fundamental principal of WP. I take the time to work with people, not against them. For me this activity is not for power play. And I will never be treated as someone's flavor of the day.

Your response at the Teahouse

...was probably how I should have framed my response. That said, the editor appears to have expectations about what Misplaced Pages is about and goals that are not easy to dispel, as they've asked repeatedly about whether they can write about themselves. Tonality and negativity are important factors, but the expectations of the editor and their willingness or ability to reevaluate those expectations are also fairly important in appraising what is really going on. I, JethroBT 06:22, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

J--I'd like to say more but no problem with me and no need to explain. Hindsight always shows that there can be no problems in the world.66.74.176.59 (talk) 09:23, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Your edits

You've been making nonconstructive edits on wikipedia for the past few hours, please stop!!! You need to realize that you only make copyedits not just because you can, but to correct grammar (not to introduce more errors like you do) or to make sure sentences conform more with the citation given (and not make it deviate more from its source like in your case). You can also make copyedits to solve ambiguous statements and present a more explicit meaning (not make it more ambiguous). It's like you are doing the opposite; recently you edited Desmond Elliot and removed "10th" from it without even confirming if there's actually a 10th edition or not. You need to realize Misplaced Pages is not suppose to contain "what you think", but what can be sourced. sometimes too, you replace appropriate sentences with sentences with bad grammar. If you think your edit is proper, discuss it with other editors, instead of readding your reverted edits. Misplaced Pages is a collaborative project, and not a one man's show. If you continue vandalizing articles, your IP may be blocked from editing wikipedia.--Jamie Tubers (talk) 10:35, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Yes I did confirm that there is not a 10th edition of a ceremony especially if it was established as an annual event in 2005.66.74.176.59 (talk) 12:22, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

• I don't think you did, cos the 10th edition is on wikipedia here, so it's not even far fetched! Anyway, Just take note of what I've said and let's make wikipedia a better platform together. Regards--Jamie Tubers (talk) 12:42, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Again, if a ceremony is said in the lede to be "annual" and was started in 2005 then it cannot be an "annual" ceremony therefore the lede is incorrect. That is logic. Sorry if you disagree but is not that the point of correct grammar--logic. And of course facts are logic. One or the other or both are incorrect. I will leave that determination up to you since you have cast yourself in the role of decoder.

• You still don't get it, do you? No one cares about your logic. If wikipedia was operating on personal "logics" of editors, there will be so many unnecessary conflicts of interest. Like in your case; your logic is unreasonable. Now, calm down and start counting one after the other the number of ceremonies that can be held; with the first ceremony holding in 2005.--Jamie Tubers (talk) 13:10, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

I get it when a statement is wrong. You may not like it being pointed out but there are many things in life that we do not like and seem to live on. Again, "annual" ceremony started in "2005" and it is "2014". You cannot have 10 annual ceremonies in 9 years. It would seem appropriate that there be an explanation so that at some point if there is a discrepancy it is on record.66.74.176.59 (talk) 13:17, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

• Okay, since you seem lazy to do what I asked you, lemme do it for you:

1. 2005 - 1st ceremony
2. 2006 - 2nd ceremony
3. 2007 - 3rd
4. 2008 - 4th
5. 2009 - 5th
6. 2010 - 6th
7. 2011 - 7th
8. 2012 - 8th
9. 2013 - 9th
10. 2014 - 10th

I hope you can now see how skewed your "logic" is.--Jamie Tubers (talk) 13:25, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Again, you seem to be missing what has been pointed out about something being wrong. You seem to be fixed on 10 ceremonies and I have raised the question that the lede of an article says that something is annual and it started in 2005 that you cannot have 10 ceremonies without there having been more than one in any 12 month "annual" period. Therefore if there has been a ceremony in a period of time less than 12 months then it has not been annual? Successive, yes, but not annual. Please keep on point and not confuse what point is being made. If the lede in the article says "annual" then that is incorrect. It is difficult enough to explain and have someone understand that there can never be a first annual ceremony of anything because such an event can only become annual with a successor event. Is there at all the possibility of this ending as it is just becoming very much the carousel ride of going up and down and all a round and getting no where. Now it is day break and I am about to get on with watching my flicks which I annually do so on the anniversary of 9/11.66.74.176.59 (talk) 13:38, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Please don't "fix" redirects

Re: Your recent edits changing links to Biafran War to Nigerian Civil War, please read Misplaced Pages:Redirect#Do not "fix" links to redirects that are not broken. "Doing so is generally an unhelpful, time-wasting exercise that can actually be detrimental". DuncanHill (talk) 02:42, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

IP user identification

PLEASE refrain from appearing prejudicial about my continued WP participant with an IP. Yes, I know about user names and do not have one. That is explanation far more than what the question is worth. Nothing against those that do have a user name. AGAIN -- PLEASE, refrain from appearing prejudicial especially by those that seem to take great pleasure toward those with which they disagree about WP content and attack the IP user for being identified as such.66.74.176.59 (talk) 14:29, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Helpme tag

Do you still need help, or is it taken care of? Oiyarbepsy (talk) 05:01, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your concern. The person in question has decided to come to the realization that their action was a knee jerk persistent reaction without realizing the content.66.74.176.59 (talk) 05:12, 26 October 2014 (UTC)