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| {{Clerk-Note}} We've moved beyond the point of providing info that the checkuser might need for the request; I moved the rest of the discussion to the talk page. ] 22:44, 10 July 2006 (UTC) | {{Clerk-Note}} We've moved beyond the point of providing info that the checkuser might need for the request; I moved the rest of the discussion to the talk page. ] 22:44, 10 July 2006 (UTC) | ||
| :There's really no reason to continue with this request, it has been established that the two accounts are meatpuppets, and that Tobias used IP socks. The checkuser will tell you |
:There's really no reason to continue with this request, it has been established that the two accounts are meatpuppets, and that Tobias used IP socks. The checkuser will tell you that one meatpuppet in in Germany, the other is in the UK, and will show the multiple ISP's and IP#'s that Tobias uses and besides, it has already been run. People with checkuser can verify this in their logs. ] | ] 00:02, 11 July 2006 (UTC) | ||
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Tobias Conradi
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- Chrisjj2 (talk · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Hauke (talk · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
Sockpuppet denials on userpage . Contributions look like people from tangotango.info, which he claims they are. See 15:45, 9 July 2006 (UTC) timestamp for claim of friendship Possible meatpuppets, would like confirmation. ShaunES 07:24, 10 July 2006 (UTC).
- Another admin, User:Pschemp, has been saying that a checkuser has confirmed that these are socks of Conradi. Conradi vehmantly denies this. I have looked for the previous Checkuser, which would have had to have been in the last couple of weeks, but cannot find it. If there was a previous checkuser, then all that is needed to settle this is a pointer to that checkuser. If not, then it would be nice to have this officially settle this once and for all. - TexasAndroid 19:04, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
- Tex was so kind to point me here. I did not claim nowhere that they are from tangotango.info nor tango.info. They are tango dancers and friends of mine. Hauke lives in Rostock and Chris in the UK. I strongly doubt that there could be any checkuser evidence that says they are me, because I use Deutsche Telekom, Berlin. I would like to see the other checkuser that Pschemp claims to have confirmed sock puppetry . They are not meat puppets nor any other kind of puppets. They are Hauke and Chris people that can decide by themselves what they do and what not. And yes, they know tango.info and contribute to it as do many tango people. Thank you. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 19:18, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
- I looked in the chekuser request history and could not find any edit by Pschemp. What other way can people go to request checkuser? Are there logs were all checked users can be found? Tobias Conradi (Talk) 19:43, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
- That means little, Tobias. Nothing says that Pschemp made the request. And the clerk below makes that point that some requests do not even go through this page. I would just like to know if it was performed. If so, what was the official result. If not, I would like to see it performed now to try to settle this.
- On a side note, if a new check is performed... Just before the two above accounts came into question, there were a series of edits by Tobias from several IP addresses. Tobias has admitted these were done by him, so there's really no need to bring them into the check. The only issue in contention at this point are the two other IDs listed above. - TexasAndroid 19:57, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
- I agree and confirm. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 21:50, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
- I looked in the chekuser request history and could not find any edit by Pschemp. What other way can people go to request checkuser? Are there logs were all checked users can be found? Tobias Conradi (Talk) 19:43, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
- Tex was so kind to point me here. I did not claim nowhere that they are from tangotango.info nor tango.info. They are tango dancers and friends of mine. Hauke lives in Rostock and Chris in the UK. I strongly doubt that there could be any checkuser evidence that says they are me, because I use Deutsche Telekom, Berlin. I would like to see the other checkuser that Pschemp claims to have confirmed sock puppetry . They are not meat puppets nor any other kind of puppets. They are Hauke and Chris people that can decide by themselves what they do and what not. And yes, they know tango.info and contribute to it as do many tango people. Thank you. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 19:18, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Clerk note: The situation was discussed at WP:ANI here (bottom of the page), although it does not seem to be in the ANI archives (a bot archiving problem?). I can also not find any record of a public checkuser request before, although the name rings a bell. Not all checkuser results are posted here, as sometimes the checkuser admins discuss cases on talk pages, ANI, etc. However, Chrisjj2's only edits were in response to Voice of All's denial of removing the protection from User talk:Tobias Conradi, which was proposed by Hauke . Thatcher131 19:48, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Clerk note: We've moved beyond the point of providing info that the checkuser might need for the request; I moved the rest of the discussion to the talk page. Thatcher131 22:44, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
- There's really no reason to continue with this request, it has been established that the two accounts are meatpuppets, and that Tobias used IP socks. The checkuser will tell you that one meatpuppet in in Germany, the other is in the UK, and will show the multiple ISP's and IP#'s that Tobias uses and besides, it has already been run. People with checkuser can verify this in their logs. pschemp | talk 00:02, 11 July 2006 (UTC)