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::Also read "Foreign slurs that have become English language loanwords may be included, as long as the definition and sources are in English" as written on ]. English sources are available for each of those terms that you have removed. ] <small>(] • ] • ])</small> 03:51, 3 December 2014 (UTC) ::Also read "Foreign slurs that have become English language loanwords may be included, as long as the definition and sources are in English" as written on ]. English sources are available for each of those terms that you have removed. ] <small>(] • ] • ])</small> 03:51, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
:::Thanks for the civil response. "in the English speaking world" modifies the whole sentence. It doesn't mean any word that occurs in some speech where some people speak English. If there is a specific slur which you have evidence is used ''in English'', without italics, scare quotes, or explanations, simply provide a reliable source. An article in English about a dispute that took place where the speakers used a foreign language and insulted each other would not be sufficient--we'd need a dictionary type source that says ''"word" meaning X that originates in language Z''. (See secondary versus tertiary sources for ].) Not ''word that means X in language Z''. Otherwise this article becomes an encyclopedia of world slurs, not a list of Ethnic slurs used in English. ] (]) 04:24, 3 December 2014 (UTC) :::Thanks for the civil response. "in the English speaking world" modifies the whole sentence. It doesn't mean any word that occurs in some speech where some people speak English. If there is a specific slur which you have evidence is used ''in English'', without italics, scare quotes, or explanations, simply provide a reliable source. An article in English about a dispute that took place where the speakers used a foreign language and insulted each other would not be sufficient--we'd need a dictionary type source that says ''"word" meaning X that originates in language Z''. (See secondary versus tertiary sources for ].) Not ''word that means X in language Z''. Otherwise this article becomes an encyclopedia of world slurs, not a list of Ethnic slurs used in English. ] (]) 04:24, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
::::The article is about slurs, not slurs by the English.. that would be ] and highly POV to bias the article on a generic topic towards the English speaking world. --<span style="text-shadow:#396 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; class=texhtml">] (])</span> 09:24, 3 December 2014 (UTC)


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Halloween cheer!

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Thanks for the references and cleanup at Sanskrit!

Thank you! --AmritasyaPutra 09:47, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

REPLY TO YOUR WARNING

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I am not disrupting wikipedia, I am providing right information. Sir i am really disappointed with your community. now i will never post or change anything bye.

Thank you for viewing. Shaharyar.121 (talk) 18:16, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

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Patrolled?

I got an e-mail that said you patrolled me. What's that? I got this really cool shivery thing like Batman was on the roof. Can any of us patrol people or is it special? Djcheburashka (talk) 08:47, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

@Djcheburashka: You would want to read WP:New pages patrol, any newly created page would need to be reviewed. Unless the page creator has permissions like WP:ADMIN or WP:Autopatrolled. Review is important for assuring that page is not a attack page, violation of copyrights, etc. OccultZone (TalkContributionsLog) 08:58, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Oooooh that sounds fun - can anyone be a patroller? Do I get a cape? Djcheburashka (talk) 09:15, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Anyone can be. OccultZone (TalkContributionsLog) 10:13, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

google map

Can we use google map as reference for geographic towns or villages.--Vin09 (talk) 15:06, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Not really. OccultZone (TalkContributionsLog) 15:10, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
So, how to provide references to geo location for villages or small towns?--Vin09 (talk) 07:21, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
Google books or websites that could be considered as WP:RS. OccultZone (TalkContributionsLog) 08:50, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Carmine Miranda

Hie, I am writing to ask for your input about your opinion of this page Carmine Miranda. I am writing to you since you were one of the few who added contributions to it. At present moment it has been nominated for deletion. Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Carmine Miranda I am hoping that if you have time, that you could take a look at its current state and chime in your opinion on whether it should be kept or not. Thank you in advanceLilianarice (talk) 04:00, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Thank You

Thank You
Thank you for participating in my topic ban. This really is a genuine thank you, no sarcasm is intended. I was in the wrong and I accept that. Rotten regard 23:38, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
@Rotten regard: In a matter of hours, you will see that whole incident buried somewhere in the archives. You haven't been blocked, that's good! You have to consider that it was just an alert. Whatever you want to do next, it is your choice, and if you need my help, you can let me know. OccultZone (TalkContributionsLog) 04:16, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

AN Notices

I was going through diffs and histories and just passed by yours and wondering why would you leave notices to editors I never mentioned? Not that I mind either way. --lTopGunl (talk) 12:16, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

@TopGun: They are the participants of the last ANI thread concerning DS. OccultZone (TalkContributionsLog) 13:02, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
I know, but I asked since they were not related to my long standing conduct disputes with DS. Anyway, no problem. More eyes are always welcome. --lTopGunl (talk) 13:36, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

Kaspar Glatz

You put the "Start" category on the article Kaspar Glatz. I'm not sure you read it closely. I wrote most of the article and I can tell you that there is really nothing more to add about him. As far as references, most of the info comes from his entry in the 19th century Allgemeine Deutsche Biographie, because that's the only source that I could find that mentioned him at all. A few other facts are filled in from letters to and from Luther which mention him and from his signature on one of the responses to the Augsburg Interim.

I'm not sure what more information or sources are needed. This is as complete a history of this man as can be established.Bob Caldwell CSL (talk) 15:01, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

It seemed fair enough for Start/C class. If you want higher rating, then you may want to use the sources that are available online. B-criteria must pass 6 criteria, check WP:BCLASS. OccultZone (TalkContributionsLog) 15:10, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
I don't "want" a higher class. The title "Starter" just seemed odd. Personally, I think it meets the requirements of Class B: It is suitably referenced, actually better than a lot of other articles. Reasonably covers the topic, especially since there appears to be no more information about him. It has a good structure. I think it is quite well written. There really are no supporting materials to include; I suppose I could have scanned the signature page of Der Prediger der Jungen Herrn/Johans Friderichen Hertzogen zu Sachssen etc. Sönen/Christlich Bedencken auss das Interim to be an image--maybe I will. Finally, I think it is quite understandable by anyone.
Anyway, I'm not going to argue the point. It's a fine article and anyone who wants to know about this guy will find out all there is to know. And I'm satisfied with that. Bob Caldwell CSL (talk) 17:27, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

Your signature

Resolved

Hi, the code in your signature breaks the html syntax, and as a result user who edit anywhere after your signature have problems with syntax highlighting in the editor. Would you be kind to ensure that <span> and italics markings do not cross-cut each other but are correctly nested? Thanks. kashmiri 07:41, 19 November 2014 (UTC) ] <small>(] • ] • ])</small>

@Kashmiri: I have written my signature above, edit where it's needed. Thanks OccultZone (TalkContributionsLog) 08:06, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
Okay, simply moved <span> from the end to just after "Zone". Color parameter has no influence on special links anyway. kashmiri 08:17, 19 November 2014‎ (UTC)
@Kashmiri: Thank you very much!
Also thanks for contributing on Kargil War, I have got some pages for you, what you have to say about this merger? We had merged it to Rape in India before, but some of the users were thinking of Human rights abuses in Kashmir. I think it can be merged anywhere but the current article is really redundant. OccultZone (TalkContributionsLog) 08:58, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
Hi, Human rights abuses in Kashmir is a misnomer in my view. Human rights were codified in Europe in mid-twentieth century; other cultures and legal traditions did not really have a concept of a "universal human right", so IMHO it is a bit unusual to ever talk about "human rights abuses in Kashmir" in 16th century! True, the article could discuss only the post-1948 period, but then there is disagreement whether human rights can apply to territories in a state of armed conflict - one legal tradition says that IHL supersedes human rights laws in armed conflict; even as another view considers IHL a subset of the human rights law. Anyhow, the article would need tremendous work, unsure I'd be able to do it before the X-mass break.
As to rape article, I don't think I want to spend too much time on it - having lived in India, I will say that whatever is written will never match the grim reality. I might only remove "terrorist" wording from the J&K section as per WP:TERRORIST and, time permitting, might add a few media reports of rape by the military (a very common occurrence in J&K) - the current text is completely out of balance.
But thank you to pointing out to these two articles. Regards, kashmiri 09:32, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
@Kashmiri: can you have a look at Battle of Chawinda? Also see Talk:Battle of Chawinda#RSN and have your input. OccultZone (TalkContributionsLog) 16:10, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Wiki commons

I want to modify this file and update it like this file, could you guide me. When I try to update it says Please choose a different title, because this title is already in use by another file.--Vin09 (talk) 04:22, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

You have to use different title when you are uploading a new image. OccultZone (TalkContributionsLog) 07:01, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Copy-vio

How to nominate it for copy-vio Jagannatha Gattu Temple, Kurnool. Copy-vio--Vin09 (talk) 07:34, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Read WP:G12. OccultZone (TalkContributionsLog) 07:41, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Did not intend to do that.

Misclick because of on mobile. Turned off screen and continually 'taps' once or twice after that. I'll need to log off of Misplaced Pages before I turn off the screen. Sorry. Tutelary (talk) 16:05, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

@Tutelary: Yeah it seemed. OccultZone (TalkContributionsLog) 16:07, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Listings

Are these listings really necessary?--Vin09 (talk) 10:22, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

No and you can also check WP:Source list, it is good to have the pages of linked items. OccultZone (TalkContributionsLog) 10:28, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
linked lists in the sense? Pages with Wiki articles?--Vin09 (talk) 10:31, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
Yeah those. OccultZone (TalkContributionsLog) 15:58, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

Need help

If we place Update after template. Will the article come out of potentially dated statements section.

containing potentially dated statements?--Vin09 (talk) 11:01, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

Why did you revert my edits ?

Hello, Why did you revert my edits on Mufaddal Saifuddin page ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.70.168.184 (talkcontribs) 10:39, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

"Syedna" is an WP:HONORIFIC. OccultZone (TalkContributionsLog) 10:57, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

Notability

Wiki notability in the sense, need to provide any third party references? Third party references in the sense any blog or website or newspaper? I read the page of Notability but some confusion.--Vin09 (talk) 12:18, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

They have to be WP:RS. OccultZone (TalkContributionsLog) 12:57, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
Thank you for always being an editor who has been kind and supportive toward me. I appreciate it very much, Daniellagreen 00:56, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
You have helped a lot in many queries and issues. I hope the same will continue in future. Cheers! Vin09 (talk) 05:07, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Geo locations

How to cite any location if it is situated near River of coast. Any geographic map references suitable?--Vin09 (talk) 05:08, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Depends upon the type of reference you are using. As per WP:V, you can add this type of information without any reference if you believe that you can prove them if they have been challenged. OccultZone (TalkContributionsLog) 05:57, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

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Copies of deleted articles

I've got your email. For some reason I had assumed that you were referring to articles that I had deleted, though you didn't say so. I could send you copies of the articles, but on the whole I think it would be better if you were to ask the administrators who deleted them. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 20:33, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

I have asked Ronhjones for 2 articles, since he had deleted them first. But what about the other one? Which was deleted by Atama who is inactive since 10 July. OccultZone (TalkContributionsLog) 03:37, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks Dear, for your kind understanding. Being a third party editor your comments are valuable, may please cooperate against vandalism done by some people like User: Summichum.--Md iet (talk) 11:58, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

List of ethnic slurs

I suggest you read the first sentence of the article: "The following is a list of ethnic slurs (ethnophaulisms) that are, or have been, used as insinuations or allegations about members of a given ethnicity or to refer to them in a derogatory (critical or disrespectful), pejorative (disapproving or contemptuous), or insulting manner in the English-speaking world" and the warning notes at the top of each section that additions require references, as well as WP:LIST. Long discursions are not proper for lists. μηδείς (talk) 03:27, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

@Medeis: It is actually : "used as insinuations or allegations about members of a given ethnicity" and "or to refer to them in a derogatory (critical or disrespectful), pejorative (disapproving or contemptuous)," and "or insulting manner in the English-speaking world." It is not necessary that the terms have to be English words, otherwise we wouldn't be listing the non-English songs or names anywhere in en.wiki. OccultZone (TalkContributionsLog) 03:46, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
Also read "Foreign slurs that have become English language loanwords may be included, as long as the definition and sources are in English" as written on Talk:List of ethnic slurs. English sources are available for each of those terms that you have removed. OccultZone (TalkContributionsLog) 03:51, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the civil response. "in the English speaking world" modifies the whole sentence. It doesn't mean any word that occurs in some speech where some people speak English. If there is a specific slur which you have evidence is used in English, without italics, scare quotes, or explanations, simply provide a reliable source. An article in English about a dispute that took place where the speakers used a foreign language and insulted each other would not be sufficient--we'd need a dictionary type source that says "word" meaning X that originates in language Z. (See secondary versus tertiary sources for WP:RS.) Not word that means X in language Z. Otherwise this article becomes an encyclopedia of world slurs, not a list of Ethnic slurs used in English. μηδείς (talk) 04:24, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
The article is about slurs, not slurs by the English.. that would be WP:COATRACK and highly POV to bias the article on a generic topic towards the English speaking world. --lTopGunl (talk) 09:24, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

December 2014

Information iconIt appears that you have been canvassing—leaving messages on a biased choice of users' talk pages to notify them of an ongoing community decision, debate, or vote—in order to influence User:Strike Eagle. While friendly notices are allowed, they should be limited and nonpartisan in distribution and should reflect a neutral point of view. Please do not post notices which are indiscriminately cross-posted, which espouse a certain point of view or side of a debate, or which are selectively sent only to those who are believed to hold the same opinion as you. Remember to respect Misplaced Pages's principle of consensus-building by allowing decisions to reflect the prevailing opinion among the community at large. Thank you. You've been doing it first at subtly WT India, then via pings to bring in the editors of your choice (both of which I left alone trying not to engage you) but now you are directly posting it to talkpages and asking another user on your own talkpage to join you. This is blatant canvassing. The next time you do it, you are going to ANI. lTopGunl (talk) 09:11, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

I've watchlisted the page more than 2 years ago when you and your friends tried to change the outcome of the battle by synthesis of sources....in case you haven't noticed, I returned from a break just yesterday and my went through my watchlist just today... ƬheStrikeΣagle 09:23, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
@ OccultZone: Please use the community talk pages(like WT:INDIA) for notifications about ongoing discussions and please be more neutral next time. ƬheStrikeΣagle 09:23, 3 December 2014 (UTC)