Misplaced Pages

Revision as of 14:15, 18 December 2014

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Child sexual abuse article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic. New to Misplaced Pages? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help. Assume good faith Be polite and avoid personal attacks Be welcoming to newcomers Seek dispute resolution if needed Article policies Neutral point of view No original research Verifiability

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Archives: Index, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9Auto-archiving period: 15 days

Please stay calm and civil while commenting or presenting evidence, and do not make personal attacks. Be patient when approaching solutions to any issues. If consensus is not reached, other solutions exist to draw attention and ensure that more editors mediate or comment on the dispute.

This article has not yet been rated on Misplaced Pages's content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects:

Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details. Law Mid‑importance This article is within the scope of WikiProject Law, an attempt at providing a comprehensive, standardised, pan-jurisdictional and up-to-date resource for the legal field and the subjects encompassed by it.LawWikipedia:WikiProject LawTemplate:WikiProject Lawlaw Mid This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale. Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details. Crime and Criminal Biography Mid‑importance This article is within the scope of WikiProject Crime and Criminal Biography, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Crime and Criminal Biography articles on Misplaced Pages. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Crime and Criminal BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject Crime and Criminal BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Crime and Criminal BiographyCrime-related Mid This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale. Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details. Sexology and sexuality Mid‑importance This article is within the scope of WikiProject Sexology and sexuality, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of human sexuality on Misplaced Pages. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Sexology and sexualityWikipedia:WikiProject Sexology and sexualityTemplate:WikiProject Sexology and sexualitySexology and sexuality Mid This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale. Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details. Psychology Mid‑importance This article is within the scope of WikiProject Psychology, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Psychology on Misplaced Pages. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.PsychologyWikipedia:WikiProject PsychologyTemplate:WikiProject Psychologypsychology Mid This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

	Pedophilia Article Watch (defunct)
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Pedophilia Article Watch, a project which is currently considered to be defunct.Pedophilia Article WatchWikipedia:WikiProject Pedophilia Article WatchTemplate:WikiProject Pedophilia Article WatchPedophilia Article Watch

This topic contains controversial issues, some of which have reached a consensus for approach and neutrality, and some of which may be disputed. Before making any potentially controversial changes to the article, please carefully read the discussion-page dialogue to see if the issue has been raised before, and ensure that your edit meets all of Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines. Please also ensure you use an accurate and concise edit summary.

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Child sexual abuse article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic. New to Misplaced Pages? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help. Assume good faith Be polite and avoid personal attacks Be welcoming to newcomers Seek dispute resolution if needed Article policies Neutral point of view No original research Verifiability

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Archives: Index, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9Auto-archiving period: 15 days

Archives

Index Archive 1 Archive 2 Archive 3 Archive 4 Archive 5 Archive 6 Archive 7 Archive 8 Archive 9

This page has archives. Sections older than 15 days may be automatically archived by Lowercase sigmabot III.

Template:Findsourcesnotice

Logic behind criteria for abuse

Suppose that a 14-year-old American girl goes on vacation to Italy and willfully (and lawfully) sleeps with a 30-something Italian man. Do scholars/physicians/psychologists/courts etc. in the US consider her to be abused sexually? Will she need to go into therapy once back in the States just like her peers who had intercourse with an adult on American soil? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.71.153.13 (talk • contribs) 18:53, 24 November 2014 Answer: US law might require that. Here there is no attempt to prevent the night and early morning acts of rape suspected practiced by the resuscitation of my father Herbert Otto Altar, and he commits them so as to demand that I return to him the life supplementary reserve he provided me with and does this with deliberation and molests me with pocket farmer´s radio. He refuses to understand that normally rape is a capital crime and even more if of daughters and that otherwise he needs to be interned in a mental asylum that is in a picturebook world to improve, but he has probably it seems been there and is false and deliberate and therefore would even in a picturebook world need to be sentenced to life imprisonment with no parole access to his daughter and compensation under Brazilian legal practice of his assets, and he is a Brazilian citizen.

Your question has no answer. It contains too many unjustified assumptions, oversimplifies an extremely complex issue, and confuses laws/morality and medical science.Legitimus (talk) 20:20, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

Nevertheless, medical/moral/legal issues got lumped together in the article's very lead and they purport to add up miraculously...— Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.71.153.13 (talk • contribs) 21:36, 24 November 2014

That is one issue I pointed out with your question. I pointed out several issues. You seem to come to the article with either an poor understanding of the subject-matter and/or the English language, or an agenda. So here's the deal: You want to have a conversation about specific changes to make to this article? If so, good; go click "Create Account" at the top of the page, make an account, and we'll discuss. I'm not interesting in talking to a random Polish IP address about a locked article, because it was locked for a very good reason. However, if you're intent to just soap-box about your views or disagreement about the general subject matter, which includes asking loaded questions, this is expressly prohibited under wikipedia's rules and there is nothing further to discuss and this thread will be deleted or archived.Legitimus (talk) 14:50, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Perhaps creating two articles on CSA-one dealing with medical concerns and the other with legal/moral ones-could help to prevent a paradox like the one I presented. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.71.153.13 (talk • contribs)

The paradox you presented is in no way brought up in this article, because the article only gives brief, passing mention of legal issues and no "criteria" based chronological age are used in the manner you described. Hence, your concern still makes no sense. Legal issues are already handled in Laws regarding child sexual abuse and Age of consent.Legitimus (talk) 17:48, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Anon, the opening should sum up the contents of the article, and the article as a whole certainly does not need to "add up". We are an encyclopedia, remember. ♫ SqueakBox talk contribs 22:21, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

• All unassessed articles
• B-Class law articles
• Mid-importance law articles
• WikiProject Law articles
• B-Class Crime-related articles
• Mid-importance Crime-related articles
• WikiProject Crime and Criminal Biography articles
• B-Class Sexology and sexuality articles
• Mid-importance Sexology and sexuality articles
• WikiProject Sexology and sexuality articles
• B-Class psychology articles
• Mid-importance psychology articles
• WikiProject Psychology articles
• Misplaced Pages controversial topics