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::*When there isn't enough information being added on a new article, it is better to keep it all as one paragraph and not divided into sections. Always use natural complete sentences. Do not separate the article into multiple sections each containing only one or two words. For example, instead of sayng ''"== Habitat == Freshwater and Brackish water"'', write instead ''"They are found in freshwater and brackish water."'' ::*When there isn't enough information being added on a new article, it is better to keep it all as one paragraph and not divided into sections. Always use natural complete sentences. Do not separate the article into multiple sections each containing only one or two words. For example, instead of sayng ''"== Habitat == Freshwater and Brackish water"'', write instead ''"They are found in freshwater and brackish water."''


::*Do not add Thailand-specific information unless the species is endemic to Thailand. And do not presume that the information in the Thai database applies globally. This is misleading and should be avoided. For example, you wrote that the ] is found in the "sea boundary". This is completely meaningless to the readers. Since you did not identify which sea and which boundary. Even if you had said "Thailand sea boundary", it is still incorrect, since pinkbar gobies are widely found in the Indian Ocean. From South Africa to the Andaman Islands, not only Thailand. ::*Do not add Thailand-specific information unless the species is endemic to Thailand. And do not presume that the information in the Thai database applies globally. This is misleading and should be avoided. For example, you wrote that the ] is found in the "sea boundary". This is completely meaningless to the readers since you did not identify which sea. Even if you had said "Thailand sea boundary", it is still incorrect, since pinkbar gobies are widely found in the Indian Ocean. From South Africa to the Andaman Islands, not only Thailand.


:The best advice I can give you currently is to '''start slowly'''. Study existing articles. Study their formatting, their layout, and how they are written. After that, write ONE article. Do your best to bring it to the same quality as the articles you studied. Copy them if you must. If you have problems doing this, don't be afraid to ''ask''. Ask me, any of the editors in ], or even the ]. This page might also help: ] :The best advice I can give you currently is to '''start slowly'''. Study existing articles. Study their formatting, their layout, and how they are written. After that, write ONE article. Do your best to bring it to the same quality as the articles you studied. Copy them if you must. If you have problems doing this, don't be afraid to ''ask''. Ask me, any of the editors in ], or even the ]. This page might also help: ]

Revision as of 18:32, 23 January 2015

Welcome!

Hello, Pi-gimjiRu, and welcome to Misplaced Pages! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few links to pages you might find helpful:

Please remember to sign your messages on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Misplaced Pages:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or click here to ask for help here on your talk page and a volunteer will visit you here shortly. Again, welcome! Dan Koehl (talk) 16:28, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

Acentrogobius kranjiensis

Trying to find out if Acentrogobius kranjiensis is a valid species, it isnt present at http://www.itis.gov/servlet/SingleRpt/SingleRpt?search_topic=TSN&search_value=172092. Do you have further sources? Dan Koehl (talk) 16:29, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your comment please give me some time to check with my data source. I want to tell you about this Data were then Derived from a study by scientists of Thailand. However, I am pleased to check the information again. Please do not delete data from the database. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pi-gimjiRu (talk • contribs) 14:24, 14 January 2015‎

(I signed your edit above) By all means no, the article want be deleted, and your contribution is highly appreciated, but its good if we can work out if this is a valid species or not, or whether the article should be redirected to Drombus kranjiensis? In any case, Misplaced Pages wins in volume and quaility through your contribution. Are you aware of how to use taxoboxes? Ill be more than happy to give a brief introduction. If you are into fishes and taxonomy, you may also enjoy Wikispecies. best regards, Dan Koehl (talk) 14:44, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for instructions on how to use Taxoboxes now I had add more information on this Taxonomy data. If the template is correct or not . I am pleased to bring back to investigate further.unsigned comment added by Pi-gimjiRu (talk • contribs) 22:51, 14 January 2015‎
In the taxobox I just changed species name from A. cyanomos to A. kranjiensis. The question is if this article should be redirected to Drombus kranjiensis? Did you read the discussions on Wiki project fishes, a group you may wish to be added as member? Dan Koehl (talk) 16:22, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

According to discussions on WikiProject Fishes there seem to be a consensus that this fish is presently belonging to Drombus globiceps until any source argue for another suggestion. If you agree I will move the article through recirect to Drombus globiceps Dan Koehl (talk) 20:20, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi. First off congrats on your first article. As noted above, I had to move the article to Drombus globiceps and revise much of the text. Please ensure that the species is valid, and always check for and list the synonyms if they exist. That's the best way to make sure that you are creating the article on the correct title and most importantly, on the correct taxon. Reading the following might help familiarize you on the usual practices of creating taxonomic articles: Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Tree of Life. Cheers. -- OBSIDIAN†SOUL 12:00, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

A page you started (Anematichthys repasson) has been reviewed!

Thanks for creating Anematichthys repasson, Pi-gimjiRu!

Misplaced Pages editor Animalparty just reviewed your page, and wrote this note for you:

I converted the outline you had written to sentence style. Please strive to write articles in paragraph format, with a clear introduction. Also, please make sure the reference URL links to the correct page: the current link is an unrelated goby.

To reply, leave a comment on Animalparty's talk page.

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I believe those two articles actually describe the same species? >> Cyclocheilichthys repasson and >> Anematichthys repasson. What do you think? Dan Koehl (talk) 22:52, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Some helpful tips

Hi and thanks for your contributions. I have some helpful tips. First, when adding images to taxoboxes, just the file name should be added, not the thumbnail (e.g. "Fish.jpg" , not "]"). This reduces white space around the image and makes the image fit better. Secondly, I've noticed you adding Thai language references and External links to some articles. While non-English sources are allowed on English Misplaced Pages, English-language sources that have the same information are preferred (see WP:NONENG), so please don't feel bad if they are replaced. For example, FishBase would be preferable to Thaibiodiversity.org. Examples of non-English sources that would be suitable to use include scientific journal articles, in-depth magazine articles, or scholarly book chapters in Thai that elaborates on the information summarized in sites like ThaiBiodiversity.org and FishBase. Similarly, non-English websites should generally not be listed as External Links, or when equivalent English resources are already cited (see WP:NONENGEL). If you have any questions, please consult the resources above or ask! Cheers, --Animalparty-- (talk) 23:00, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Nomination of Cryptocentrus caeruleopunctatus for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Cryptocentrus caeruleopunctatus is suitable for inclusion in Misplaced Pages according to Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Cryptocentrus caeruleopunctatus until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. ToonLucas22 (talk) 17:25, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

Your recent edits to fish articles

Hi. I'm sorry but I have to revert most of your recent changes to fish articles. One-sentence sections are not very informative, and most of them seem to just repeat what is already present in the article (they're redundant). They're also bad for the layout. More importantly, they seem to be specific to THAILAND. Please note that Misplaced Pages is global. We generally do not use country-specific information unless that species is endemic.

I really recommend that you first familiarize yourself with how articles are usually written about organisms. Don't go on large amounts of edits since you are still new. Focus on a few articles and try to bring them up to the quality of other related articles. Your taxoboxes as well are incomplete and/or coded incorrectly.

At the moment, you are increasing the workload of other volunteers since we have to follow up on your edits and fix them.-- OBSIDIAN†SOUL 02:00, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

If you want, you can focus on ONE article and I can guide you in how to create one that is acceptable to Misplaced Pages guidelines. I would be happy to help.-- OBSIDIAN†SOUL 02:05, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice If possible, I want to know which section are all in trouble. Because i have many data thai i want published via Misplaced Pages. Thanks again.user talk:Pi-gimjiru 11:51 23 January 2015 (UTC+7)

Thank you. Firstly here are specific points you need to pay attention to:
  • It seems that your primary goal is to use the Thai database as widely as possible. While you are not forbidden from doing this, please do not add it where it is not necessary as that would constitute spamming and would violate Misplaced Pages policies. Use it only to add new information that does not yet exist in the article. More so given that this is the English Misplaced Pages, and sources written in English are preferred.
  • Your formatting does not follow the standard layout and/or use incomplete or broken templates. For example, you are incorrectly adding pictures as thumbnails in the {{Taxobox}}. User:Animalparty above already explained how this can be fixed. Please also fill in the {{Taxobox}} completely. Do not leave the Species, Genus, Phylum, and Kingdom fields blank in your articles.
  • When there isn't enough information being added on a new article, it is better to keep it all as one paragraph and not divided into sections. Always use natural complete sentences. Do not separate the article into multiple sections each containing only one or two words. For example, instead of sayng "== Habitat == Freshwater and Brackish water", write instead "They are found in freshwater and brackish water."
  • Do not add Thailand-specific information unless the species is endemic to Thailand. And do not presume that the information in the Thai database applies globally. This is misleading and should be avoided. For example, you wrote that the pinkbar goby is found in the "sea boundary". This is completely meaningless to the readers since you did not identify which sea. Even if you had said "Thailand sea boundary", it is still incorrect, since pinkbar gobies are widely found in the Indian Ocean. From South Africa to the Andaman Islands, not only Thailand.
The best advice I can give you currently is to start slowly. Study existing articles. Study their formatting, their layout, and how they are written. After that, write ONE article. Do your best to bring it to the same quality as the articles you studied. Copy them if you must. If you have problems doing this, don't be afraid to ask. Ask me, any of the editors in Misplaced Pages Talk:WikiProject Fishes, or even the Misplaced Pages:Help Desk. This page might also help: Misplaced Pages:Writing better articles
Please do not make too many articles too fast without fixing their problems. That is bad practice. I had to spend several hours this morning fixing your articles. Don't write another article unless you have ensured that your current article has no misspellings, formatting or layout problems, and fully complies with Misplaced Pages guidelines to the best of your abilities.
You can see the fixes done to some of your articles in the following links. Please study the changes so you can understand which parts of your edits were problematic:
https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Brachygobius_doriae&diff=643758574&oldid=643687799
https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Boleophthalmus&diff=643758532&oldid=643687465
https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Pinkbar_goby&diff=643758389&oldid=643686124
https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Cryptocentrus_caeruleopunctatus&diff=643759347&oldid=643691004
Cheers-- OBSIDIAN†SOUL 18:29, 23 January 2015 (UTC)