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February 4

Template:Amy Adams sidebar

Template:Amy Adams sidebar (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Per precedent set in discussions for other similar templates, this is redundant to the main article with only three links that are all contained on main page and thus this template should be deleted. Snuggums (talk / edits) 23:10, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Template:First Families of Pakistan

Template:First Families of Pakistan (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Template:Political families of Pakistan (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:First Families of Pakistan with Template:Political families of Pakistan.
Template:Political families of Pakistan has all of the links from the first families. Redtigerxyz 20:28, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

• Delete - It is a fundamental principle of Misplaced Pages navboxes that they exist to provide links to navigate among existing Misplaced Pages articles. First, these templates are completely redundant to each other for navigation purposes: the Political Families template includes all 13 of the families listed in the First Families (presidential families?) template. Second, 8 of the 13 articles listed in the First Families template, and 22 of 30 articles listeed in the Political Families template are red links to non-existent articles. Both templates should be deleted for the high percentage of non-existent linked content. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 21:03, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Template:The Times They Are a-Changin'

Template:The Times They Are a-Changin' (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Recreation of deleted template. I quote the previous nomination, "There are two quite similar templates for each of these albums which navigate to and are transcluded in the same exact articles. The other templates are track list templates, such as {{Blonde on Blonde tracks}} and {{Highway 61 Revisited tracks}}. Outside of location, they serve the same function so, really, only one of each needs to exist. I'm nominating the navboxes because 1) similar ones have been deleted in previous TfDs and 2) track list templates exist for other Dylan albums that don't have a complete set of articles for each song and, thus, no navbox at all. All are categorized under Category:Bob Dylan album templates." Richhoncho (talk) 19:59, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

• Keep Aids in navigation. Why would we want to delete something that aids in navigation? A reader reaches the bottom of the page and wants to know how to get to the next song on the album, for instance. Besides, there are articles within these templates besides the track listing (also, I have not yet made an albums footer for the navboxes). - Bossanoven (talk) 20:02, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
• Query - Can we get a comment from two or more WikiProject Albums members? What is the established WP:Albums consensus regarding a navbox footer for an individual album that includes a linked list of the individual song tracks from the album? Is this a standard practice -- yes or no? Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 20:47, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

• I have left a TfD notice on the WP:Albums talk page, requesting the participation of knowledgeable WikiProject members. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 21:06, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Template:Another Side of Bob Dylan

Template:Another Side of Bob Dylan (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Recreation of previously deleted template. I quote the last nomination for ease. "There are two quite similar templates for each of these albums which navigate to and are transcluded in the same exact articles. The other templates are track list templates, such as {{Blonde on Blonde tracks}} and {{Highway 61 Revisited tracks}}. Outside of location, they serve the same function so, really, only one of each needs to exist. I'm nominating the navboxes because 1) similar ones have been deleted in previous TfDs and 2) track list templates exist for other Dylan albums that don't have a complete set of articles for each song and, thus, no navbox at all. All are categorized under Category:Bob Dylan album templates." Richhoncho (talk) 19:56, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

• Keep Aids in navigation. Why would we want to delete something that aids in navigation? A reader reaches the bottom of the page and wants to know how to get to the next song on the album, for instance. Besides, there are articles within these templates besides the track listing (also, I have not yet made an albums footer for the navboxes). - Bossanoven (talk) 20:02, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
• Delete Why are both of these types of templates (navboxes and track listings) needed when the serve the same purpose by linking to the same exact articles and transcluded on the same exact pages? One or the other should go. Since not all Bob Dylan songs have an article for each album (nor needs one) and the fact that other Bob Dylan album navboxes have been deleted in TfD before, I support this nomination to delete the navbox. --Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars 21:18, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Template:PropertyLink

Template:PropertyLink (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, undocumented, no links to it or any clue in its history what it's for. Functionally it just wraps a call to Module:PropertyLink but that itself is little used, I think as the functionality has migrated to Lua itself. I.e. today this would just be done in Lua (in an infobox say), making this redundant. JohnBlackburne_deeds 16:33, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Template:Burgan SC

Template:Burgan SC (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Per WP:NENAN, plus only one of the links bar the one to the parent article actually link to what the navbox says, the rest just to general articles that may or may not contain some relevant content. Fenix down (talk) 12:22, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Template:USA-MA

Template:USA-MA (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Template:USA (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

This template appears to be redundant to {{flag|Massachusetts}}, which it wraps. There are no similar templates for other states, though this appears to be an extension of {{USA}} and this state's name is one of the long ones... —PC-XT+ 10:41, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

• I have changed to Propose a merge, where a parameter would be added to {{USA}} for states. Instead of {{USA-MA}}, it would be {{USA|MA}}. Thoughts? —PC-XT+ 10:45, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
  • And, I'm not sure about tagging {{USA}}. It might just be confusing. I put in an edit request, but it might be better to go back to a deletion discussion or withdraw, and meanwhile put in an edit request for {{USA}} to incorporate this feature. I would like some discussion, though. Any thoughts? —PC-XT+ 11:58, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
    • I found {{User US postal}}, which I think was actually created for userboxes, but I added it to {{USA/sandbox}} to make it support states: {{USA/sandbox|MA}} →  Massachusetts, {{USA/sandbox|MI}} →  Michigan, {{USA/sandbox}} →  United States There might be a better helper template to use, but this illustrates the concept. —PC-XT+ 12:26, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
      • I find this template {{USA-MA}}, or if we change it to {{USA|MA}}, easier to use than the current state flag and name templates. --Aidan721 (talk) 14:04, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
        • I also think this has its use, which is why I changed to propose the merge instead of deletion. —PC-XT+ 13:31, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
• Query for @PC-XT: Do any of these proposed new or merged formats exist for flag icons of other states of the United States, or, for that matter, the states or provinces of countries other than the United States? Do templates or redirects for flag icons of other states employ U.S. postal code abbreviations, as this one does? Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 21:10, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
  • That's part of the reason I wanted discussion. I haven't checked all the country codes on all 3 lists, but {{USA-MA}} is the only template I know of its kind, though {{US-MA-stub}} is a redirect to {{Massachusetts-stub}}. (US-MA is a ISO 3166-2:US code. There are codes for other country divisions, as well, based on 2-letter ISO for the country part. {{US}} redirects to {{USA}}. Canada would be {{CA}}, which has been deleted multiple times, so I am not sure it is related. {{DE}} is unrelated. Massachusetts is the only US state with templates named this way, that I know of.) {{GER/Nazi}} displays a variant, so may be considered close, but the loop error in the documentation makes me think it is nonstandard. (The way to fix the loop would probably be to either merge it to {{GER}} or rename it to {{GER-Nazi}}, but if renamed, it would still have problems with the code. I added documentation to {{USA-MA}}, which works except for calling the state a country and the code ISO. If you take out the code parameter, it gives {{?}} as the usage.) Germany has two templates: {{DEU}} (3-letter ISO and FIFA) and {{GER}} (IOC) but its documentation says FIFA uses GER. {{GER/Nazi}} has no {{DEU/Nazi}} counterpart. Template talk:USA has a suggestion to show variants, which could still be done, though {{flag}} already provides this feature. Otherwise, I don't know of a Misplaced Pages standard in this area. —PC-XT+ 13:31, 5 February 2015 (UTC)