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	Hi, i just explicitly requested to you, within the ongoing RFD about ] redirects, that you remove the tag(s) you added to the ] redirect. It's bringing the RFD off-topic, if it has to be discussed more, so I'll try here. Seriously, i do appreciate your adding the soft redirect to the top of the RFD, and your trying to help. But, it is undermining the usefulness of the soft redirect example, if it is tagged. It makes it look bad and does not show what users would see if the soft redirect is kept. It is actually interfering with the RFD, imo, though I assume you do not intend that. I'll watch here, hope to keep this side discussion out of the RFD itself as much as possible. I hope you could just remove the tag and briefly indicate you've done so at the RFD, in response to my request. sincerely --]]] 04:25, 14 February 2015 (UTC)		Hi, i just explicitly requested to you, within the ongoing RFD about ] redirects, that you remove the tag(s) you added to the ] redirect. It's bringing the RFD off-topic, if it has to be discussed more, so I'll try here. Seriously, i do appreciate your adding the soft redirect to the top of the RFD, and your trying to help. But, it is undermining the usefulness of the soft redirect example, if it is tagged. It makes it look bad and does not show what users would see if the soft redirect is kept. It is actually interfering with the RFD, imo, though I assume you do not intend that. I'll watch here, hope to keep this side discussion out of the RFD itself as much as possible. I hope you could just remove the tag and briefly indicate you've done so at the RFD, in response to my request. sincerely --]]] 04:25, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
	:Thanks for removing it. Mousing over it, I now see exactly: "Kaffeeklatsch: a user-space place for women to get together, hear, and support each other. This is a soft redirect. This is a redirect from a page outside the user namespace to a user" and then it is cut off. I gather from your statements that you see "nothing" or something different. Perhaps your settings are different than mine. Anyhow, thanks for allowing me and probably others to see the intended message again now. --]]] 15:14, 14 February 2015 (UTC)		:Thanks for removing it. Mousing over it, I now see exactly: "Kaffeeklatsch: a user-space place for women to get together, hear, and support each other. This is a soft redirect. This is a redirect from a page outside the user namespace to a user" and then it is cut off. I gather from your statements that you see "nothing" or something different. Perhaps your settings are different than mine. Anyhow, thanks for allowing me and probably others to see the intended message again now. --]]] 15:14, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
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	:::Please see my comment directly below - you've already added the Rfd template back and I'm not going to revert. The {{tlx\|R to user namespace}} template has nothing to do with project pages. It only indicates that the redirect goes to a page in user space from a redirect that is ''not'' in user space (i.e. categorizing cross-namespace redirects). ] (]) 16:26, 14 February 2015 (UTC)		:::Please see my comment directly below - you've already added the Rfd template back and I'm not going to revert. The {{tlx\|R to user namespace}} template has nothing to do with project pages. It only indicates that the redirect goes to a page in user space from a redirect that is ''not'' in user space (i.e. categorizing cross-namespace redirects). ] (]) 16:26, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
	::As for what you see now, maybe we are using different popup scripts, or maybe it works differently in different browsers. I see just the title of the page, and some stats. Normal redirects usually show the title of the redirect, followed by "redirects to" and then the title and content from the target. Anyway ''I'' won't add the template back, but someone else might. ] (]) 15:21, 14 February 2015 (UTC)		::As for what you see now, maybe we are using different popup scripts, or maybe it works differently in different browsers. I see just the title of the page, and some stats. Normal redirects usually show the title of the redirect, followed by "redirects to" and then the title and content from the target. Anyway ''I'' won't add the template back, but someone else might. ] (]) 15:21, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
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HALLO IVAN, Me as a Iranian-German is really sad someone make Samira SAMII wikipedi page with lots of wrong information. SAMII´s are a famous family in iran... why I can not edit anything in her page. why the article of Mahdavikia are in her page.. why they edit worng resident in her page... what is a picture??? Please answer me as an export user — Preceding unsigned comment added by MaxXXX-max (talk • contribs) 19:02, 12 January 2015 (UTC) Hello MaxXXX-max, and welcome to Misplaced Pages. Recently, an anonymous user made changes to the article that did not follow our policy on pages about living people and those changes had to be changed back. We have a rule that all pages about living people have to have the best information. Because anonymous users were making changes that broke the rule, the page on Samira Samii has been protected for a little while. Since you're a new user you won't be able to make changes to the page, but you can make a request by asking at Talk:Samira Samii. I hope this helps. Ivanvector (talk) 19:32, 12 January 2015 (UTC) IVAN, thanks for your Massage... can you please change the SMAIRA SAMII resident... she is living in Monte Carlo SAMIRA SAMII is also doesn't like to talk about Mahdavikia- She said in all her interviews this is her privacy... tats why it would be great if you delete FOCUS.DE article. SAMIRA SAMII is coming from well-known family. (Noble Family of Persia) She is permian-german not Iranian-German. She is famous i soccer Business and she has her own home-Page with many articles which you can find as a administrator.... Please remove all article about Mahdavikia because this is shame for us as person people to our SAMIRA SAMII - Person which we proud of her in IRAN — Preceding unsigned comment added by MaxXXX-max (talk • contribs) 20:51, 12 January 2015 (UTC) Why anyone can help me???? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MaxXXX-max (talk • contribs) 10:25, 13 January 2015 (UTC) Hi again MaxXXX-max. You're likely to get a faster answer to your questions if you ask on the talk page for the article, at Talk:Samira Samii. I see that you've posted your request in a few different places. Samira has contacted Misplaced Pages already to ask that her article be deleted and we are discussing the request, according to our guidelines. The article can't be deleted in the meantime. Our policy says that we can't change information about a person unless there is a reliable source, and it looks like the part about Mahdavikia has reliable sources, so I can't remove it. If you have a source that says something different, then please let me know, but I'm not allowed to make that kind of change just because you don't like the article. Also, just so you know, I'm not an administrator, I'm just an editor like you, although I've been editing the encyclopedia longer. Let me know if you have more questions. Ivanvector (talk) 17:21, 13 January 2015 (UTC) Hi Ivan, I can not understand your comment in SamiraSamii deletion... see this link: http://www.samirasamii.com/en/ It snot nice to used the publicity PUBLIC FIGURS or famous people like Samira SAMII to use for Misplaced Pages in wrong from.... Anyway she warns everyone and her fans... Delete all Mahdavikia´s Article and picture with Fadi Merze and correct the Residence... I really wanna speedy deletion of her page... Its unfair what the user do it..... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jasmin-Shams (talk • contribs) 12:04, 14 January 2015 (UTC) @Jasmin-Shams and MaxXXX-max: I think that you do not understand that we only have information that comes from sources that we trust. You say that it is wrong, but you do not provide proof, and proof is needed. I think it might help you to read a guideline from other language Wikipedias: on reliable sources: in Simple English (Reliable Sources) or Arabic (ويكيبيديا:مصادر موثوق بها) on verifiability: in Simple English (Verifiability), German (Belege) or Arabic (ويكيبيديا:إمكان التحقق) our policy on pages about living people: in Arabic (ويكيبيديا:سير الأحياء) or German (Artikel über lebende Personen) I hope that these links help. If I am wrong and you read a different language, then when you click on the link to the English guideline, look for your language on the left in the list of languages. That will take you to the page in your language. But remember that we follow the rules of English Misplaced Pages, which might be different from the rules of Wikipedias in other languages, but that should give you some idea of the rules here. Ivanvector (talk) 16:45, 14 January 2015 (UTC) HI IVAN, thanks for your massage... but you have to delete the wrong articles... For example her residence... She is a public Figure which she doesn't like to speak about her private life. But I know, that she never lives in AUGSBURG and she doesn't live in Germany... You don't have any sources, that make u sure about it. Also you dont have any sources that Mahdavikia´s History is correct. in Iranian NEWS-PAPERS all the apologized from SAMII Family... How you can add these things... WIKIPEDIA is the site for know the person and know about update and correct information but nor false.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by MaxXXX-max (talk • contribs) 17:41, 14 January 2015 (UTC) According to this article she is living in Monte Carlo- The name of Newspaper is ABEND ZEITUNG NÜRNBERG http://www.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http://www.samirasamii.com/14/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/20080902_-B-_-Samiee-fcn-marketing_0647.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.samirasamii.com/az-3/&h=2283&w=1465&tbnid=fp4SqX3qJcA1HM:&zoom=1&tbnh=90&tbnw=58&usg=__Hp5VIxTNLK1BF087h1gGovDzZDY=&docid=8_j7Nn_FDw95BM&sa=X&ei=wq22VISSD8n3UqragZAN&ved=0CCMQ9QEwAA&dur=581 So you have a source which your residence info is wrong.... !!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jasmin-Shams (talk • contribs) 18:00, 14 January 2015 (UTC) http://www.nordbayern.de/nuernberger-nachrichten/nuernberg/exotin-in-der-mannerwelt-1.895329 regarding this page you information is wrong... She is living in Monaco.... I can not understand which play you are playing.... Why you don't search exactly what you editing.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jasmin-Shams (talk • contribs) 18:18, 14 January 2015 (UTC) Thank you for providing a link, now there is something I can respond to. The article you gave is from 2008, and says that she lives in Nuremberg, which is in Germany. The article also says that she commutes to Hamburg and Frankfurt (also in Germany) and to Monte Carlo (Monaco), but it does not say that she lives in Monaco, so it is wrong to say that she lives in Monaco based on that article. There are other articles from that time that also say she lives in Germany, and none that I have seen that say that she does not. So we cannot change the information. Ivanvector (talk) 18:43, 14 January 2015 (UTC) Dear IVAN, http://rund-magazin.de/uploads/images/am_ball/abcdefgh/samirapoldi.jpg Please upload this picture. Which is free of Charge and free of right and fits much better to the WIKIPEDIA PAGE. Under the Photo it is written: SPORT MANAGER- SPORT COLUMNIST I CAN UNDERSTAND GERMAN. If u have any question don't hesitate to contact me... THANKS!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jasmin-Shams (talk • contribs) 20:59, 14 January 2015 (UTC) Thanks again, Jasmin. I am going to forward your request to add the image to the article talk page. Please see here in a few minutes. Ivanvector (talk) 22:22, 14 January 2015 (UTC) Hi, to donate an image, that is already online, please see WP:DONATEIMAGE. Sincerely, Taketa (talk) 01:47, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

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HALLO IVAN,

Me as a Iranian-German is really sad someone make Samira SAMII wikipedi page with lots of wrong information. SAMII´s are a famous family in iran... why I can not edit anything in her page. why the article of Mahdavikia are in her page..

why they edit worng resident in her page... what is a picture???

Please answer me as an export user — Preceding unsigned comment added by MaxXXX-max (talk • contribs) 19:02, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Hello MaxXXX-max, and welcome to Misplaced Pages. Recently, an anonymous user made changes to the article that did not follow our policy on pages about living people and those changes had to be changed back. We have a rule that all pages about living people have to have the best information. Because anonymous users were making changes that broke the rule, the page on Samira Samii has been protected for a little while. Since you're a new user you won't be able to make changes to the page, but you can make a request by asking at Talk:Samira Samii. I hope this helps. Ivanvector (talk) 19:32, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

IVAN,

thanks for your Massage... can you please change the SMAIRA SAMII resident... she is living in Monte Carlo SAMIRA SAMII is also doesn't like to talk about Mahdavikia- She said in all her interviews this is her privacy... tats why it would be great if you delete FOCUS.DE article.

SAMIRA SAMII is coming from well-known family. (Noble Family of Persia) She is permian-german not Iranian-German.

She is famous i soccer Business and she has her own home-Page with many articles which you can find as a administrator....

Please remove all article about Mahdavikia because this is shame for us as person people to our SAMIRA SAMII - Person which we proud of her in IRAN — Preceding unsigned comment added by MaxXXX-max (talk • contribs) 20:51, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Why anyone can help me???? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MaxXXX-max (talk • contribs) 10:25, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi again MaxXXX-max. You're likely to get a faster answer to your questions if you ask on the talk page for the article, at Talk:Samira Samii. I see that you've posted your request in a few different places. Samira has contacted Misplaced Pages already to ask that her article be deleted and we are discussing the request, according to our guidelines. The article can't be deleted in the meantime. Our policy says that we can't change information about a person unless there is a reliable source, and it looks like the part about Mahdavikia has reliable sources, so I can't remove it. If you have a source that says something different, then please let me know, but I'm not allowed to make that kind of change just because you don't like the article. Also, just so you know, I'm not an administrator, I'm just an editor like you, although I've been editing the encyclopedia longer. Let me know if you have more questions. Ivanvector (talk) 17:21, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi Ivan,

I can not understand your comment in SamiraSamii deletion... see this link: http://www.samirasamii.com/en/ It snot nice to used the publicity PUBLIC FIGURS or famous people like Samira SAMII to use for Misplaced Pages in wrong from.... Anyway she warns everyone and her fans... Delete all Mahdavikia´s Article and picture with Fadi Merze and correct the Residence... I really wanna speedy deletion of her page... Its unfair what the user do it..... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jasmin-Shams (talk • contribs) 12:04, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

@Jasmin-Shams and MaxXXX-max: I think that you do not understand that we only have information that comes from sources that we trust. You say that it is wrong, but you do not provide proof, and proof is needed. I think it might help you to read a guideline from other language Wikipedias:

I hope that these links help. If I am wrong and you read a different language, then when you click on the link to the English guideline, look for your language on the left in the list of languages. That will take you to the page in your language. But remember that we follow the rules of English Misplaced Pages, which might be different from the rules of Wikipedias in other languages, but that should give you some idea of the rules here. Ivanvector (talk) 16:45, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

HI IVAN,

thanks for your massage... but you have to delete the wrong articles... For example her residence... She is a public Figure which she doesn't like to speak about her private life. But I know, that she never lives in AUGSBURG and she doesn't live in Germany... You don't have any sources, that make u sure about it. Also you dont have any sources that Mahdavikia´s History is correct. in Iranian NEWS-PAPERS all the apologized from SAMII Family... How you can add these things... WIKIPEDIA is the site for know the person and know about update and correct information but nor false.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by MaxXXX-max (talk • contribs) 17:41, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

According to this article she is living in Monte Carlo- The name of Newspaper is ABEND ZEITUNG NÜRNBERG http://www.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http://www.samirasamii.com/14/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/20080902_-B-_-Samiee-fcn-marketing_0647.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.samirasamii.com/az-3/&h=2283&w=1465&tbnid=fp4SqX3qJcA1HM:&zoom=1&tbnh=90&tbnw=58&usg=__Hp5VIxTNLK1BF087h1gGovDzZDY=&docid=8_j7Nn_FDw95BM&sa=X&ei=wq22VISSD8n3UqragZAN&ved=0CCMQ9QEwAA&dur=581

So you have a source which your residence info is wrong.... !!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jasmin-Shams (talk • contribs) 18:00, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

http://www.nordbayern.de/nuernberger-nachrichten/nuernberg/exotin-in-der-mannerwelt-1.895329 regarding this page you information is wrong... She is living in Monaco.... I can not understand which play you are playing.... Why you don't search exactly what you editing.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jasmin-Shams (talk • contribs) 18:18, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for providing a link, now there is something I can respond to. The article you gave is from 2008, and says that she lives in Nuremberg, which is in Germany. The article also says that she commutes to Hamburg and Frankfurt (also in Germany) and to Monte Carlo (Monaco), but it does not say that she lives in Monaco, so it is wrong to say that she lives in Monaco based on that article. There are other articles from that time that also say she lives in Germany, and none that I have seen that say that she does not. So we cannot change the information. Ivanvector (talk) 18:43, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Dear IVAN, http://rund-magazin.de/uploads/images/am_ball/abcdefgh/samirapoldi.jpg

Please upload this picture. Which is free of Charge and free of right and fits much better to the WIKIPEDIA PAGE. Under the Photo it is written: SPORT MANAGER- SPORT COLUMNIST

I CAN UNDERSTAND GERMAN. If u have any question don't hesitate to contact me... THANKS!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jasmin-Shams (talk • contribs) 20:59, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks again, Jasmin. I am going to forward your request to add the image to the article talk page. Please see here in a few minutes. Ivanvector (talk) 22:22, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi, to donate an image, that is already online, please see WP:DONATEIMAGE. Sincerely, Taketa (talk) 01:47, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

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Lightning in a tropical cyclone

I've closed the longstanding RFD for Lightning in a tropical cyclone as no consensus with an unusually detailed rationale. Basically, nobody wanted to keep it, but there wasn't consensus on what to do, so I've taken a bold step of un-redirecting it and immediately sending it to AFD to get input from people who don't often show up at RFD. I'd really appreciate your input at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Lightning in a tropical cyclone, where I've given a strong suggestion that people pick between the RFD-favored steps of deletion or retargeting to lightning. I'm attempting to notify everyone who participated in the RFD (that's BDD, Ivanvector, Inks.LWC, Guy1890, Steel1943, and Thryduulf), but if I missed someone, please do the notification for me. Nyttend (talk) 18:46, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

Regarding User:IvanVector

Hey Ivanvector,

~~Just wanted to give you a heads-up that I tagged User:IvanVector for speedy deletion criterion U2.~~ If you want to make sure that "IvanVector" is always associated with you in regards to its spelling, there's a couple of options that I know that you can do:

Go to Special:CreateAccount while logged in as this account to create User:IvanVector so that it is associated with your current account. Then, you can either reinstate the redirect to target your page, it possibly utilize tagging the page with {{Doppelganger}}, or:
Request that your username be changed to "IvanVector" via Misplaced Pages:Changing username/Simple since that name currently doesn't belong to any other editor.

Hope this helps! Steel1943 (talk) 20:13, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the tips, and that's fine if the capital-V redirect gets deleted. I did try some time ago to create the "IvanVector" user account but the system blocked it, I don't remember why exactly but I assume it has to do with case-non-sensitivity, so I created the redirect instead. My username is what I always intended, and I've been here six years without the absence of that redirect being an issue. Cheers! Ivanvector (talk) 21:57, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

No rant required

Ivanvector, from the outset I thought the action 'ill-advised', but well intended. For that reason (on my part), no rant is required.Pincrete (talk) 16:58, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

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"The Raven" in MOS

Thanks for the revert. Yes, I thought somebody had typed in the lines and misspelled "visitor", but then I went to The Raven and saw the spelling there, tracked it back to the cited source, and found what you already knew... and then spread the word about the word, so to speak. --Thnidu (talk) 01:20, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

RFD help

Hi, i just explicitly requested to you, within the ongoing RFD about wp:KAFFEEKLATSCH redirects, that you remove the tag(s) you added to the wp:kaffeeklatsch redirect. It's bringing the RFD off-topic, if it has to be discussed more, so I'll try here. Seriously, i do appreciate your adding the soft redirect to the top of the RFD, and your trying to help. But, it is undermining the usefulness of the soft redirect example, if it is tagged. It makes it look bad and does not show what users would see if the soft redirect is kept. It is actually interfering with the RFD, imo, though I assume you do not intend that. I'll watch here, hope to keep this side discussion out of the RFD itself as much as possible. I hope you could just remove the tag and briefly indicate you've done so at the RFD, in response to my request. sincerely --do ncr am 04:25, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for removing it. Mousing over it, I now see exactly: "Kaffeeklatsch: a user-space place for women to get together, hear, and support each other. This is a soft redirect. This is a redirect from a page outside the user namespace to a user" and then it is cut off. I gather from your statements that you see "nothing" or something different. Perhaps your settings are different than mine. Anyhow, thanks for allowing me and probably others to see the intended message again now. --do ncr am 15:14, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Cool, I don't often get edit conflicts on my own talk page. The template should be there, because it's proper procedure to notify editors who come across the redirect that it's being discussed, and there are templates and scripts that depend on it. Popups ignores the template (and other Xfd templates) and previews the page below the code. It's not showing what you think it should because soft redirects are not interpreted as redirects by the script, and it can't load the target page to preview. But I have removed it anyway so you can see what it looks like. I'm still not sure what the other error is caused by, you don't need any special permissions to create redirects.

(edit conflict)Please put "currently under discussion notice back. It is part of the discussion at Misplaced Pages:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 February 12#Misplaced Pages:KAFFEEKLATSCH and is listed at the top as such, so your removal of the notice is wrong and interferes with those editors that are working on maintenance categories.

Also, that redirect is incorrectly placed in a hidden category that refers to project pages. Nothing about Lightbreather's subpage nor that redirect to it has anything to do with a project. Please correct your mistakes. EChastain (talk) 15:47, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Please see my comment directly below - you've already added the Rfd template back and I'm not going to revert. The {{R to user namespace}} template has nothing to do with project pages. It only indicates that the redirect goes to a page in user space from a redirect that is not in user space (i.e. categorizing cross-namespace redirects). Ivanvector (talk) 16:26, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

As for what you see now, maybe we are using different popup scripts, or maybe it works differently in different browsers. I see just the title of the page, and some stats. Normal redirects usually show the title of the redirect, followed by "redirects to" and then the title and content from the target. Anyway I won't add the template back, but someone else might. Ivanvector (talk) 15:21, 14 February 2015 (UTC)