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Andy Dingley (talk) 00:49, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

?--Wtshymanski (talk) 03:37, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Same story. DieSwartzPunkt (talk) 12:56, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

This explanation should be interesting. I made popcorn... --Guy Macon (talk) 17:17, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

It would certainly need to be phenomenally good. I believe the admins are running a book on the response. DieSwartzPunkt (talk) 18:17, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Wtshymanski, with this edit User:111.119.170.12 made an obvious error. With this edit you not only reverted IP 111.119.170.12, but also User:Keesal, who had fixed an obvious typo and User:Monkbot, who was just doing his normal robot work of fixing deprecated coauthor parameter errors. Furthermore, your edit summary labeled your edit "rv anon v" with zero evidence that 111.119.170.12 had vandalized as opposed to making a good-faith error.

In this edit You once again accuse an IP editor of being a vandal, when the edit he made, while not an improvement, shows no evidence of being vandalism, and again your edit also reverted someone else (in this case User:Ruakh), who made a normal copyediting decision which, to my eyes, was an improvement to the article.

Could you please explain this behavior? --Guy Macon (talk) 13:37, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Oh this is ludicrous. On the Misplaced Pages, where the Winnipeg river flows through Winnipeg and power factor has bold new dimensions, of course "kilograms per second" are a volumetric unit of flow. And a "unijunction transistor" is a "junction transistor". Sure, why not? --Wtshymanski (talk) 02:47, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Those were bad edits and should have been reverted. Please explain on what basis you concluded that they were vandalism. You also failed to answer as to why you reverted Keesal, Monkbot, and Ruakh. Would you be so kind as to do so now? BTW, your views on power factor are still WP:FRINGE and unsupported by any source. --Guy Macon (talk) 03:14, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

My views are pretty core, according to the standard. But Misplaced Pages knows best. --Wtshymanski (talk) 03:16, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

So, no explanation for your behavior at all? ---Guy Macon (talk) 06:18, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

(...Sound of Crickets...) --Guy Macon (talk) 19:40, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

I never could understand how the power factor formula could result in a negative number. If you're "returning power to the source" then your putative load is not a load at that time, it's the source, and vice versa. So your power factor is still a positive number. Granted that meters will show negative numbers, that makes complete sense in this context, but it is merely an indication that the source and sink have swapped roles. Jeh (talk) 04:45, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

What we call things is often a matter of convention. A classic example is calling a terminal on an AA battery "-" when it is a source of electrons.

In the case of power factor, there is a current, standards-based definition and an obsolete definition used on some very old test equipment.

Current, standards-based definition: Phase angles (leading and lagging) in the range of -90° to -0° and +0° to +90° have a positive power factor. Phase angles in the range of -90° to -180° and +180° to +90° have a negative power factor. Power factor readings do not indicate leading or lagging. Modern meters often have a separate display giving the phase angle.

Obsolete convention: Phase angles (lagging) in the range of -90° to -0° have a negative power factor. Phase angles (leading) in the range of +0° to +90° to have a positive power factor. Phase angles in the range of -90° to -180° and +90° to +180° are undefined. Some meters using the obsolete convention incorrectly show -90° to -180° as having a power factor in the range of -1.0 to -2.0. Some incorrectly "peg the needle" at -1.0. Some display "error". Some incorrectly give the same reading for -45° and -135° (this appears to be the source of the fringe theory). Also, some meters using the obsolete convention display "-" for leading and "+" for lagging while others display "+" for leading and "-" for lagging.

There is more on this at http://powerstandards.com/Shymanski/draft.pdf -- a paper written by by Alex McEachern, (Author of Electric Power Measurements and Handbook of Power Signatures, Chair of IEEE 1159.1 (Power Quality Measurements)]) specifically to correct Wtshymanski‎'s WP:FRINGE claim that "power factor can only be positive", a claim that has only been published in one place (that we've found so far), in the form of an error in a single IEEE standards document -- and Alex McEachern is the chair of the IEEE committee that made the error. --Guy Macon (talk) 06:18, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Jeh, did the above answer your question? --Guy Macon (talk) 19:40, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

March 2015

There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Editor routinely reverting contributions from IP address editors.. Thank you. DieSwartzPunkt (talk) 16:52, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

Suddenly I'm the biggest threat to Misplaced Pages since Essjay. This is what happens when I don't log in for a few days. --Wtshymanski (talk) 20:41, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

No, you are not the biggest threat to Misplaced Pages since Essjay. What you are is someone who refuses to simply engage in a dialog about your behavior, forcing multiple frustrated editors to take to to ANI in the hope that an admin will intervene. Your every interaction drips with sarcasm and disdain for anyone who dares to disagree with you, and you never admit defeat, even in cases such as negative power factor where you have never, ever been able to produce a single cite supporting your position after it became clear (the author himself told you so) that the IEEE standard had an error in it. You piss people off, and not just a few of them. Some withdraw in frustration, some misbehave in retaliation, and a few keep trying to reduce the disruption to the encyclopedia. Your actual level of disruption is actually rather mild compared to most cases, but it drives people crazy when they cannot get you to simply talk over your differences like adults. But of course you know all of this. --Guy Macon (talk) 20:07, 9 March 2015 (UTC)