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Since you seem to be so good at everything involving Misplaced Pages, could you try and fix my userpage? some of the Dropdown sections don't seem to work properly. No need for a response unless you can't fix it. Thanks alot, Misplaced Pages's False Prophet holla at me Improve Me 01:07, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

I'll check into it shortly. :) Essjay (Talk) 01:09, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Any ideas of what's wrong? Misplaced Pages's False Prophet holla at me Improve Me 03:10, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

I looked at it, and asked two others to do so as well; all three of us are stumped. There are, however, examples of dropdowns at User:Kylu and User:Lar; perhaps if you used their code you'd have more luck? Essjay (Talk) 03:23, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Checkuser clerk

I would like to help out on the checkuser page by becoming a checkuser clerk. --PinchasC | £€åV€ m€ å m€§§åg€ 01:42, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

I know Thatcher is out there listening, and some of the other clerks as well. Could you guys offer up an overview of what you do and how to get into doing it? (I'd prefer it done here so I can keep track, but whatever. ;)) Essjay (Talk) 02:13, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

(I must be too predictable.) See WP:RFCU/Clerks for more info. Anyhoo, its mostly janitorial. At the listing stage, check that the subpage is transcluded properly, that the {{checkip}} and {{checkuser}} templates are used, and fix any other formatting problems. Some cases get created under the wrong name and need to be moved (from Misplaced Pages:Requests for checkuser/Lightbringer to Wikipidia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Lightbringer, for example.

At your discretion, you may want to add a comment or ask a question to help the requester format their request better, or provide a bit of missing background info. (for example see the July 5 request at Misplaced Pages:Requests for checkuser/Case/Zapatancas where Squeakbox failed to mention the name of the article he was in dispute at, and I kindly added it for him.) Voice of All does more detailed commenting than I do, and the other clerks do very little. Basically, if I think I can make Essjay and Mackensen's job easier with a quick comment, I'll make it. This is entirely optional and you do want to avoid giving the impression that you are acting to screen or pre-approve requests. There is more discussion about this in the talk archives of the clerk pages. We also try to keep the arguing to a minimun. I usually let the alleged sock make one statement in his/her own defense, but if it gets more conversational than that, I move the conversation to the talk page.

After a request is answered, the name gets moved to the proper section (declined or completed). Since you're an admin, you may choose to issue warnings or blocks, which is especially helpful if the requester is not an admin, although this too is optional. Eventually the case gets archived. This is usually after 4 days, but may be sooner if it is clear that the requester has seen the answer, or if there gets to be a lot of trolling on the page. The request gets enclosed with closing templates, removed from the CU page list, and added to the alphabetical list at WP:RFCU/Case. This is also described at Misplaced Pages:Requests for checkuser/Clerks/Guide and there is discussion at Misplaced Pages:Requests for checkuser/Clerks/Requests and Misplaced Pages talk:Requests for checkuser/Clerks/Requests where we worked out some of the bugs.

I think that's about it. Let me know if you have any other questions. (with most things on wikipedia, you learn best by doing) Thatcher131 02:43, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

In a case like Misplaced Pages:Requests for checkuser/Case/NikoSilver where one of the users Telex has been requested to be checkusered here, here, here where Hectorian is also mentioned and here, would I make a clerk note pointing this out? Or since they were all declined, it would serve no purpose besides for letting the checkuser know that this user has been suspected in the past. --PinchasC | £€åV€ m€ å m€§§åg€ 03:40, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

I think that's worth pointing out. Too late. (Looked like a decline a mile away anyhow.) Thatcher131 03:55, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

I forgot to mention that the new subpage template includes a tag reminding users to list the page for transclusion; this tag also contains Category:Checkuser requests to be listed. The tag can be removed once the page is listed if the user doesn't do it themselves. The category gives us a way to check to see if any cases were created and then not listed (if someone is confused about the process and goofs up for example) Thatcher131 06:03, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Penguin

Is it just me, or is there a tux on your theme's login page? —Xyrael _{/ 20:39, 18 July 2006 (UTC)}

It depends; are you using my monobook.css and have new messages? Essjay (Talk) 00:04, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I now have it referencing yours for dynamic updating. Is this the new version? Personally, I preferred the one with the little blue border round it. —Xyrael _{/ 09:00, 19 July 2006 (UTC)}

You think you can get Jude to use that penguin thing, Essjay? :) ~Kylu (u|t) 09:09, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

To Xyrael: That's the problem with using someone else's preferences: As I have said until I am sick of saying it, it's *my* skin, and the purpose of it is to display this site the way *I* want to see it. I can deal with people complaining about the way templates look, I can even accept people whinging about the color of my userpage, but I'm going to have my frickin skin the way I want it, and if you don't like it, don't use it.

To Kylu: He's welcome to use it if he likes, but as above, I'm not listening to complaints when I change my skin to do something I want it to do. Essjay (Talk) 18:41, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry to have offended you like that - I wasn't complaining, just commenting on my preference and was certainly not asking you to change your theme. My main purpose was to confirm where it was coming from. —Xyrael _{/ 13:38, 22 July 2006 (UTC)}

You didn't offend me, you irritated me, because you're about the 10th person to come along and tell me how my site skin should look. I don't mind suggestions (Hey, I use and I think you might like it) or bug reports (Hey, isn't working), and I'm thrilled that other people find it useful and want to copy it, but I don't like it when people presume to tell me what's best *in my own skin*. My skin, particularly my CSS, has been carefully put together to help me stay out of the fights over template layout, page colors, and all the rest of the stuff that people get into it over. I just change the way it displays *for me* and leave the bickering to others. Since the purpose of the page is to customize my view of the site, I view complaints about it's content as complaints about my preferences; I've spent a lot of time getting it just how I like it, and I expect others to do the same. Use my skin as a starting place, but if you don't like something, don't complain to me or ask me to change the way I view the site, change it in your own skin. That's what *your* monobook.css/.js files are for. Essjay (Talk) 14:16, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Moral of the story: If you like someone else's layout, copy it to your own userspace and edit it instead? ~Kylu (u|t) 20:13, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Indeed. Essjay (Talk) 20:17, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

My point about offending you was that above I had hoped that I had expressed my opinion but not asked anything of you and I apologise if it seemed that way as it was not my intention. We have no disagreement, just a misunderstanding - I would agree with *all* your comments above. —Xyrael _{/ 17:27, 23 July 2006 (UTC)}

Questionable block

I think your block of User:CovenantD was highly questionable. I'm not sure it was appropriate, and I'm not sure discussion couldn't have resolved the problem better. Blocks are not meant to be punitive, to my eye that looked like severe punishment for speaking out of school. Can't see any disruption to the Misplaced Pages, maybe a few egos ruffled is all. I think the refusal to grant a check user is just as disruptive. Steve block Talk 19:07, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

EssjayBot

There appears to be a slight glitch in it, as it's doing "Sandbox talk)" instead of "Sandbox talk". Thought you might like to tweak it. :-) Jude (talk) 00:10, 24 July 2006 (UTC)