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: Hey, hey, you guys are a mafia! How about you warn Kansas Bear for breaking Misplaced Pages rules and deleting added info without asking for citations. I can provide you all the citations you need. But I sense there is another agenda here. Anyway, Misplaced Pages is never going to be a credible source of information with users who do not play by the rules and administrators who don't act impartially. And to threaten another user with another ban! Where are other administrators? Are they on break? Do I have to complain to get attention? What a waste of time... -] (]) 08:17, 4 April 2015 (UTC) : Hey, hey, you guys are a mafia! How about you warn Kansas Bear for breaking Misplaced Pages rules and deleting added info without asking for citations. I can provide you all the citations you need. But I sense there is another agenda here. Anyway, Misplaced Pages is never going to be a credible source of information with users who do not play by the rules and administrators who don't act impartially. And to threaten another user with another ban! Where are other administrators? Are they on break? Do I have to complain to get attention? What a waste of time... -] (]) 08:17, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

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It's not for us to decide how to interpret history. Recent edits made by you to Hezârfen Ahmed Çelebi and Lycia seem aimed not to more accurately reflect sources, but to favour an interpretation. To be frank, several edits seem motivated by "feelings", personal disposition to the subject; this is something we all struggle with- just a well intended 'heads-up'. Mavigogun (talk) 06:40, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

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Malatya

I would be interested in seeing your sources that state Malatya/Melitene was taken by the Danishmend Turks in 934. --Kansas Bear (talk) 18:44, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, I got it confused with the final 1101 taking over of the city by the Danishmend Turks. Thank you for enlightening me.Yozer1 (talk) 07:32, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

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Reverts on Hasan_Cemal

I saw your reverts on Hasan_Cemal. On wikipedia, we're picky about living people, anything that's said about them has to have a reliable source behind it. Your post has what looks to be an opinion piece from a Turkish newspaper. Admittedly, I can't tell if the newspaper is reliable, the piece itself appears to not be reliable. Instead of reverting, may I suggest you place a note on our reliable sources board and ask if this is indeed a reliable source. If you keep reverting , you could be blocked for it.  KoshVorlon. We are all Kosh   17:30, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your notification KoshVorlon. It seems that you will accept my contributions to Hasan Cemal if I find a "reliable" source. Sure, I can do that. In fact, I can find numerous sources to justify my case. But there is no need, it is not that important. The source that I had on is admittedly from the pen of another writer. I am fluent in a couple of languages, you will have to take my word for the translation.

As for reverting, may I remind you that my contribution were deleted. I would have thought the person who removed them would be warned of vandalism. Thank you.

Yozer1 - thanks for your response, actually, I was able to read the Turkish source you presented with Chrome (I have a translator plugin for it ). It looks like an opinion piece, and yes, it does talk about Hasan Cemal, but it never uses the word "unappologetic". If you want that term to be in that article, you'll need a reliable source that says just that (take a look at our BLP policy and you'll see what I mean. As far as taking your word for it, actually, even if it's in another language, we have speakers of other languages that could verify what the source says. We almost never take anyone's word for it, we require a source that says what the entry is saying (the only exception is anything from our OTRS team as they deal with non-public information. I invite you to ask around about this, since I'm not a sysop, nor an admin, nor anything other than an editor, just as you are.  KoshVorlon. We are all Kosh   11:53, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
KoshVorlon - I see. Thanks again for the valuable info.

Conquest of...

Hallo Yozer,
I reverted you because you wrote "Conquest of Istanbul" which is a nonsense and as link points to nothing (red link). Alex2006 (talk) 15:30, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

Edit-warring and comment removal

You've been warned for edit-warring: if you revert again you can expect to be blocked. Additionally, if you remove other editors' comments again, you may be blocked for disruptive editing. Please use the article talkpage to arrive at a consensus. Acroterion (talk) 16:52, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Don't do this again. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt this time because my warning may not have come in time. Acroterion (talk) 16:55, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

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I blocked your account for 24 hours for edit warring on Erzurum, Talk:Erzurum, and User talk:Sandstein. In particular, in Talk:Erzurum you made four reverts, and on the two talk pages I mentioned you made no constructive contribution, just reverting edits of other users. This is not an acceptable dispute resolution avenue. Please resort to constructive editing when the block expires. Note that I treat the block as usual and I did not check whether you have any Arbcom restrictions. If you do, the block can be modified by any administrator.--Ymblanter (talk) 17:06, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

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Request reason:

The contributions I made on Erzurum were reversed without a discussion on Talk:Erzurum. Yozer1 (talk) 17:20, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Decline reason:

You tried to prevent your edits from being discussed on the talkpage and edit-warred there and at Sandstein's talkpage to hide other users' comments. Acroterion (talk) 18:08, 20 November 2013 (UTC)


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Please read WP:BRD to see how it's done. Yozer1 made no attempt to discuss it on the talk page and repeatedly removed the talk page discussion I started. HelenOnline 17:55, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
I strongly recommend you follow Helen's advice. It's clear that you don't understand how to constructively interact with other editors and your subterfuge saying that your edit warring opponents did not discuss things on the talk page is pure WP:TE. If this continues after your block expires, your next block will likely be indefinite. Toddst1 (talk) 21:34, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
I am entitled to my point of view, supported by evidence, as you are to yours.Yozer1 (talk) 15:29, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

Erroneous Turkish Translations

Your interpretation of the Turkish "fetih" as "liberation" instead of the ubiquitous "conquest" is bizarre; the Turks universally proffer "conquest". What is your explanation for this? It seems that either your apprehension of English or Turkish is in error, or you are advocating an atypical personal preference.Mavigogun (talk) 21:45, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Trying to debate with and satisfy the opposing point of view is not easy. Thank you for your support.Yozer1 (talk) 15:30, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
What opposing view? Please cite one instance of "Mehmet the Liberator" - as I can find NOTHING. Who are these people that call Mehmet The Conqueror "liberator"? What are their names? Where are they published?Mavigogun (talk) 22:48, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
Ayrı şeylerden bahsediyoruz. "Fall of Constantinople" yerine bir "Conquest of Constantinople" dene, gör kaç kişi karşı çıkıyor.Yozer1 (talk) 12:44, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
So, no credible references?Mavigogun (talk) 16:31, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
Wake up and do some research. It is a liberation from the tyranny of the Byzantines from a Muslim point of view. E.g.: http://www.alsunna.org/forum/index.php?topic=62.0 or http://www.muslimmotherhoodsg.com/sultan-muhd-alfateh-result-of-islamic-religious-education-from-young/. But as you can see, I have not pursued pushing that label since it might not be considered neutral.Yozer1 (talk) 18:07, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
That settles the issue nicely: the edit was most definitely propaganda. Misplaced Pages is not a venue for promoting a political agenda, a particular view, or favoured interpretation- nor is a forum rant a credible source. YOU should have disdained such a label because YOU assessed that it would advocate a highly marginal partisan point of view. Unless you are able to report judiciously and faithfully adhere to the tenants of Misplaced Pages, desisting would be wise. Mavigogun (talk) 20:26, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
So says a User:Mavigogun who falsely claims trees were cut in the construction of the Yavuz Sultan Selim Bridge. Your reference does not mention any trees being cut. In addition, the Italian construction company says the plans never changed during construction. Are you ignoring that point of view and pushing your own Gezi-minded propaganda? Yozer1 (talk) 16:47, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

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Suggestion

If I were you, I would avoid removing any information that could be construed as disruptive editing. Since the references were there, simply at the end of the following sentence. I have restored the information, including a quote from the source. --Kansas Bear (talk) 19:48, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for adding the rest of the sentence. Now, what would you do if I were to bring you contrary evidence? Yozer1 (talk) 19:51, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

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See the decision at this AE thread. Let me know if you have any questions. EdJohnston (talk) 20:22, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

A little late, aren't you? Yozer1 (talk) 20:36, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

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Sandstein is uncomfortable discussing this issue, I presume. Yozer1 (talk) 08:07, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
Your next block may very well have indefinite duration, so I strongly advise you to take the ArbCom enforcement and your topic ban seriously.--Ymblanter (talk) 08:27, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
Thank you Ymblanter. You would be doing me a favor. I would have more time for other activities in life. The loosers would be Misplaced Pages users. Yozer1 (talk) 08:42, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

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See here. --Kansas Bear (talk) 20:52, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

You call it violation, I call it fixing errors. Yozer1 (talk) 23:09, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

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Is it time to sign-up for a new account? Why bother? Not many people take Misplaced Pages seriously anyway. Yozer1 (talk) 23:13, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
That would be agianst policy, and the new account would be blocked as well (it's quite easy to detect such things). You can appeal the block if you think you shouldn't have been blocked or if you think the duration is unfair. Either place {{unblock}} below, along with your statement, which will be copied over to AE, or email arbcom-appeals-en@lists.wikimedia.org. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 23:29, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for the info. Yozer1 (talk) 14:02, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

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I've reverted you. Tumblr fails WP:RS, as does the other website if only because MalwareBytes blocked it. I presume it's also another personal website, but I couldn't check it. In any case, it can't be used if it's going to cause people concern - if it's accurate there will be other more reliable sources. Dougweller (talk) 17:01, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

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Hello! Thanks for your recent edits to Timeline of Istanbul. Some of the items seem most relevant to Turkish history in general (rather than to the city of Istanbul), and therefore might be placed instead in the Timeline of Turkish history. What do you think? -- M2545 (talk) 13:09, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Hello! You are absolutely correct. Except for the Marmaray project which belongs to Istanbul, the rest can go. Thank you for the notice. -Yozer1 (talk) 13:29, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

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Please fix broken links rather than just flagging them. It took less than 30 seconds via Archive.org to find the webpage you flagged as a broken link at Van cat.  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ⱷ҅ⱷ≼  03:25, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the info and heads up. -Yozer1 (talk) 16:50, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

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Your comment at Talk:Defense of Van (1915)

Per an AE decision you are banned from the topic areas covered by WP:ARBAA2 on all pages of Misplaced Pages including Talk. Please undo your comment at Talk:Defense of Van (1915) to avoid a block. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 17:12, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

Hello, that ban was revised to a one-year period. Thank you, -Yozer1 (talk) 04:03, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
No, you were blocked for one year (at first indefinitely). The ban is still in effect. EdJohnston is correct and you must undo your comment. Dougweller (talk) 10:08, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
And you edit at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement‎ certainly seems disruptive (and was reverted by another Arbitrator). Dougweller (talk) 10:11, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
I was wondering about that. How was my edit there 'disruptive'? Please explain your logic. -Yozer1 (talk) 10:16, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
Let's see. You changed the archiving, something you definitely shouldn't touch. You added a closed report on Lecen from 2013. And your own ban report from the same year. Neither of which belonged there. So I can't see how it was anything but disruptive. Dougweller (talk) 10:38, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
Sorry, I did not read the section in the user manual on what can be touched and what cannot, or where things belong and where they do not. Anyway... -Yozer1 (talk) 13:35, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

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Personal attack should be removed

Please remove this personal attack against User:Kansas Bear. Since you are under a topic ban from WP:ARBAA2, there is no excuse for you to comment on any Armenian matters, or to accuse others of editing with 'Armenian tendencies'. Please remember that your last block was for one year. Don't tempt fate by showing us that you are still continuing with your former ways. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 02:16, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Hey, hey, you guys are a mafia! How about you warn Kansas Bear for breaking Misplaced Pages rules and deleting added info without asking for citations. I can provide you all the citations you need. But I sense there is another agenda here. Anyway, Misplaced Pages is never going to be a credible source of information with users who do not play by the rules and administrators who don't act impartially. And to threaten another user with another ban! Where are other administrators? Are they on break? Do I have to complain to get attention? What a waste of time... -Yozer1 (talk) 08:17, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

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Per my comments above, you were given a chance to fix the situation by reverting your statements that violated your ban from WP:ARBAA2. You declined to remove the statement in which you accused Kansas Bear of having "Armenian tendencies". You made a new edit where you childishly address him as 'Yogi Bear'. Mere insults will probably roll off his back, but your behavior suggests you have no intention of following the rules in this part of the encyclopedia. The only option for us is to repeat your last one-year block. Topic bans have value only for those who understand and are willing to follow them. EdJohnston (talk) 02:00, 5 April 2015 (UTC)