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Bug #550

What is Bug #550?--Chili14 04:18, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Basically, the fix for Bug 550 allows admins to block IPs from edting without affecting logged-in users. Previously, if, for instance, you blocked all of AOL, then nobody from AOL could edit, even if they had an account. See Bug 550 for all the details, if you'd like. 207.145.133.34 16:07, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

WIkipedia:Esperanza/User Page Award

Kylu, thanks for signing up for the Esperanza User Page Contest. The judges have received the fifteen entries, and are ready to start judging. The judges will take a week to complete the judging process, and they will contact all the participants when the judging is done.

Please drop by the contest page for contest updates and questions. Take care, and good luck! May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| ŗ 3 $ |-| ţ |-|) 10:11, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

The Halo nominated me, actually, but thank you! I find it flattering someone thinks my page is pretty enough to win a contest! (Even if I did blatantly steal most of the design from poor Mopper...) ~Kylu (u|t) 07:21, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Re Oversight

Hi. Actually, my own request is the first one that I'm seen go through. It should provide interesting insight on the procedure, which should help enrich the Oversight page. For instance, Requests for permissions, the page from Meta, has a seemingly contradictory wording in the header of the section regarding oversight permissions for this Misplaced Pages: it gives the impression that a user should ask there, and that the greenlight from the ArbCom would be procured only once the request there has been logged. I guess that can happen too, but it is better if one posts there having already secured the "ok" from the ArbCom. Because of the wording situation, I decided to start my request there a few hours after having posted on the ArbCom talk page, thinking that I'd probably get an answer here before a Steward could get around to addressing my request. As it turns out, the Stewards were faster than the ArbCom, so now my request there is in standby, while I'm waiting for an answer from the ArbCom. Redux 13:43, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi again. As you requested, I'm keeping you up to speed. This post on Meta from Voice of All is of the utmost relevance. Still, I'm waiting to see what the ArbCom will say about my rationale. It seems to be the case, however, that oversight rights cannot be requested, they are only given as an "extension" of another tool (CheckUser) or a position (ArbCom member). Redux 21:38, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

I think at the moment I'm standing by my assertation that +oversight is presentable to those who are "designees of ArbCom" also (in addition to VoA's information), as there are non-ArbCom members who have +oversight. At the moment, this seems to be the most accurate presentation of the facts, I think. I'll update the page soon. ~ Kylu 207.145.133.34 22:32, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Those non-arbcom users are former arbcom users. It was never an extension of checkUser. I talked to about this on IRC to arbcom members. The MediaWiki Foundation created Oversight without warning and told the arbcom to choose who gets it. Giving it to people with CU was a quick way to give it to trusted people without having to go through some sort of lengthly confirmation process. Several arbcom member thought that it could use expansion, but there were not many easy ways to do so. They later agreed to give it to several active Arbcom members (as not all of them had CU) and several former arbcom memebers. Hope that clearifies things.Voice-of-All 23:53, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Understood, thanks for the info! ~Kylu (u|t) 01:19, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Although it doesn't bear any relevance to your work, I thought I'd give you the final update: the ArbCom has approved my request, and Mark has already posted on Meta requesting the status for my account. Redux 03:00, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Err, actually, I've known about that for a while now, but thank you for telling me! It's still good for clarifying approval policy. The scary thing is, I'd rather get this absolutely right, as I notice on wikis it tends to be that when you write a description of a wiki-process, people start pointing to it as policy. ~Kylu (u|t) 03:03, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

I thought you probably already knew. Just wanted to make sure. About the page, in fact it will be reflecting policy, since Oversight is guided by policy (such as: the ArbCom decides who gets it, and the instances in which the tool is to be used). Interestingly enough, several pages people refer to quite often, although not policy, really started thanks to an initiative from a single user, or maybe a handful of users. WP:BEANS and WP:SPIDER are examples. Originally, BEANS wasn't even in the project space, but it got moved there eventually because people liked the concept so much.
I'll work on the Oversight page with you, and hopefully others will join us. If we can get it to a great level, we can eventually ask that it be linked in the Listusers special page. But we'll cross that bridge when/if we come to it. Redux 04:19, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

FYI

Just so you know, I now have a new username at User:Seivad. Previously I was known as ]. _{This message has been left for everyone who has left a message on my talk page} . Thanks for your time, Seivad 21:49, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments

Hi. I will be gone from tomorrow until the twenty-ninth of July. Please bear that in mind when sending me messages. Also, your username appears on my userpage. I would like you to replace it with your signature. No timestamp is neccesary. Thank you and have a nice day.Chile14 21:59, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

So...

Since you're my friend a highly respected admin and all... I was wondering if I could use you to my advantage ask you nicely for something.

Can you undelete these pages that I db-author'd? Pretty please?

• User:The prophet wizard of the crayon cake/Organization C
• User:The prophet wizard of the crayon cake/soapaward
• User:The prophet wizard of the crayon cake/cheeseaward

Thanks. --The Prophet Wizard of the Crayon Cake 02:16, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Misza13's pile!

Thank you for contributing the impressive the pile of supports gathered on my RfA, which passed with a final tally of 0x0104/0x01/0x00. I'm happy that so many people have put faith in my abilities as an admin and promise to use the tools wisely and do my best not to let you down. If I ever may be of assistance, just leave a note on my talk page. Misza13, the rouge-on-demand admin wishes you happy editing! NOTE: This message has been encrypted with the sophisticated ROT-26 algorithm. Ability to decipher it indicates a properly functioning optical sensor array.

My dear Kylu

My dear Kylu, now that I'm back from my Wikibreak and the flurry of most deserved congrats has slowed down on your Talk page, it is the perfect moment for me to drop by and congratulate you myself. Your extremely kind words to me are very special and they mean a lot, because I so value the person who spoke them. I was confident you'd make it; good and valuable people have been turned down at RfA for a number of reasons, but sometimes, just sometimes, there is justice in this world and the right thing happens. We all love you, Kylu, because we see the great goodness in you, and your incredible will to help and work hard. Please, remember that if your faith ever fades away again. With a great, BIG hug, your friend now and always, Phaedriel ♥ The Wiki Soundtrack!♪ - 10:56, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Now DSL's out...

I don't want to edit much from here (being careful to ensure I'm logged out after I'm done here!) so I may be missing until the phone lines at home get fixed. Yay. :P

• Cake: files undeleted. :)
• Chili: sig added, thank you. :)
• Phaedriel and Misza: *hugs*

~Kylu (u|t) 13:30, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Note to self: When undeleting pages, don't undelete the version with the speedy deletion tag on it. ~Kylu (u|t) 15:30, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Note to Cake: it's fine if you refer to me as a friend, I don't mind. ~Kylu (u|t) 15:30, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

So, now DSL's back up again, but slow. I think it's retraining the line. c.c ~Kylu (u|t) 19:33, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism

Hi, please take a look at this change -- has your name on it. --Yurik 06:50, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, that's just bloody lovely. If you'd like to indefblock for impersonation and vandalism, I'd be quite grateful. I'd be willing to bet $5 that's coming from IP 216.164.203.90. Any takers? 207.145.133.34 15:10, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Re WP:OVER

Hi Kylu. This edit from my user talk page is from you, right? I posted on the talk page explaining the changes. This one specifically is because the "user4" template provides a link to the user-specific Special:Emailuser page. As far as Oversight is concerned, the links to the Admin logs of the users didn't appear to be relevant for the page, whereas providing the visitor with links to the users' talk pages (which the "admin" template does) and to email (which the "admin" template does not provide, and which was key to my thinking that "user4" was better suited for the page) is essential, since people visiting the page may well be looking to request Oversight intervention, and they'll want to contact a user with the permission — noting that email seems to be preferred by those requesting that the tool be used, most probably because it is private, ie, it is not registered in Misplaced Pages, since the situations where Oversight may be necessary are those where people are concerned about private, sensitive information about themselves having been exposed on Misplaced Pages when it was not their desire to share that information.
Thank you for adding my name to the list. Actually, I hadn't forgotten about me: when I was editing the page, I had not yet been given the Oversight bit, since we had a little difficulty finding a Steward online to carry out the request (it took a little more than two days for it to happen). Coincidentally enough, it happened soon after I had edited WP:OVER. If you hadn't done it already, I'd probably be there right now adding my name. So thank you again for taking care of that. Cheers, Redux 01:50, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Problems

Please see WP:DATE on your date renumbering Please use this time to review the appropriate policies (WP:DATE and WP:MOS) if you'd like to make the most efficient use of your time. When you've returned, please feel free to continue editing, but be aware that you must continue to listen to the opinions of others while here: Misplaced Pages is not run by one person alone but the whole community. Thank you. ~Kylu (u|t) 01:46, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

I am afraid you yourself did not read those documents, otherwise you would be aware that they say what I am saying.

See you —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 151.44.85.64 (talk • contribs) .

I've read them, and to be honest, the arguing about it all and continuing to perform the changes while in discussion about whether it's proper or not while evading a block is the part that got me. Once you're blocked, that's fine, continue to discuss the changes. If you change usernames or IPs though and continue to edit so the block doesn't inconvenience you, that's unacceptable.

Please, continue to discuss the changes with the appropriate people, but until the block finishes, please also don't keep editing pages. ~Kylu (u|t) 02:05, 25 July 2006 (UTC)