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| ::Not only that the essay was deleted CSD G4, but the essay that was deleted by discussion was COI Ducks, that dealt with COI. Advocacy Ducks does not deal with COI but advocacy. Its a different subject. ] 21:25, 13 May 2015 (UTC) | ::Not only that the essay was deleted CSD G4, but the essay that was deleted by discussion was COI Ducks, that dealt with COI. Advocacy Ducks does not deal with COI but advocacy. Its a different subject. ] 21:25, 13 May 2015 (UTC) | ||
| :::I am entirely uninvolved. I briefly saw the essay earlier today, and looked at the deletion discussion for COI ducks just now. If memory serves, the essays seem very different. I concur that speedy deleting a controvertial essay that seems to have undergone major changes since the previous deletion is not productive, nor is it appropriate under the stated criterion. Could it please be reinstated so that it can be properly discussed. ](Please ] how to improve!) 21:30, 13 May 2015 (UTC) | |||
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History
History of this essay is:
- here and its talk page (note: essay and its talk page moved here, so nothing is there)
- here and its talk page
- here and its talk page
- and see Misplaced Pages:Miscellany_for_deletion/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_Interest_ducks for deletion discussion of first version. Jytdog (talk) 15:28, 13 May 2015 (UTC) (add note the essay has been moved now, instead of copy/pasted)
- as my colleague states thru the above links the history of these essays is quite clear and serve no purpose ( IMO)--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 15:45, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
- Ozzie10aaaa i was making no comment on the essay; just creating links to the various versions. and we are all colleagues here as Wikipedians.Jytdog (talk) 19:19, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, but I wasn't quite finished getting this essay moved, so if you and your colleague will please be patient and let me complete my work, it would be much appreciated. Atsme 16:00, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
- do not change my comment; this essay is in Misplaced Pages space and it is never ok to change part of another editors comment like this; it may be Ok to redact a personal attack but not just randomly delete part of someone else's comment. Jytdog (talk) 18:38, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
- You said it was okay to nuke your comments which I did because they refer back to the current pages, not to the history. I am working on a history section per <nowik>history</nowiki> and your reverts are disruptive. I am filing an ANI because your behavior has been disruptive since I first moved this essay into main space and you took control of it before I had completed the move. Not one word anywhere regarding any concerns you may have had. I am through with your bullying, Jytdog. Atsme 18:56, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
- BDD said he couldn't move the whole Talk page without nuking my comments. I said it was fine for BDD to nuke my comments to do that. Which is totally different than editing my comments. your violation of a really fundamental behavioral norm here has nothing to do with that and my objecting is not bullying. Creating a Talk page is not "taking control" nor is posting a comment about the history, nor is keeping my comment intact. As to your comment on your talk page where you referenced "an essay I authored", please note that the authors of this essay are "BDD, QuackGuru, Doc James, Jytdog, AlbinoFerret, David Tornheim, Atsme, DrChrissy, Petrarchan47, Wuerzele and Ca2james". File away; nothing will come of it except damage to your reputation. Jytdog (talk) 19:12, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
- You said it was okay to nuke your comments which I did because they refer back to the current pages, not to the history. I am working on a history section per <nowik>history</nowiki> and your reverts are disruptive. I am filing an ANI because your behavior has been disruptive since I first moved this essay into main space and you took control of it before I had completed the move. Not one word anywhere regarding any concerns you may have had. I am through with your bullying, Jytdog. Atsme 18:56, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
- do not change my comment; this essay is in Misplaced Pages space and it is never ok to change part of another editors comment like this; it may be Ok to redact a personal attack but not just randomly delete part of someone else's comment. Jytdog (talk) 18:38, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
- as my colleague states thru the above links the history of these essays is quite clear and serve no purpose ( IMO)--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 15:45, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
You disrupted my process of moving an essay I authored into main space - I requested the assistance of admin BDD to help me with the move. You did not even offer one ounce of discussion to see what was going on or at what point the move had progressed. You just took it upon yourself to do whatever the hell you felt like doing, and I quite frankly I am tired of your imposition and disruption. You do not OWN this article, even though you may think you do as you have demonstrated wherever you are involved. Please back-off. You have already made known your intent for me here: and for no other reason than I disagree with your bullying tactics and censorship on WP. Respond to the case I initiated at ANI and we'll go from there. If the results do not reflect justice, my intention is to initiate an ARBCOM. You have stepped way over the line this time. Atsme 20:18, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
Contested deletion
This page should not be speedily deleted because it represents an actual divide of opinion between editors; supressing it will only drive the dispute underground.
Anmccaff (talk) 21:18, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
- Not only that the essay was deleted CSD G4, but the essay that was deleted by discussion was COI Ducks, that dealt with COI. Advocacy Ducks does not deal with COI but advocacy. Its a different subject. AlbinoFerret 21:25, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
- I am entirely uninvolved. I briefly saw the essay earlier today, and looked at the deletion discussion for COI ducks just now. If memory serves, the essays seem very different. I concur that speedy deleting a controvertial essay that seems to have undergone major changes since the previous deletion is not productive, nor is it appropriate under the stated criterion. Could it please be reinstated so that it can be properly discussed. Happy Squirrel(Please let me know how to improve!) 21:30, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
- Not only that the essay was deleted CSD G4, but the essay that was deleted by discussion was COI Ducks, that dealt with COI. Advocacy Ducks does not deal with COI but advocacy. Its a different subject. AlbinoFerret 21:25, 13 May 2015 (UTC)