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== 2014–15 United States network television schedule ==

Drmargi, there's a reason why I reverted those edits because the source because {{ping|AdamDeanHall}} changed the refs to a more reliable source. Drovethrughosts has replace the refs to not the most reliable source and that's why I've been reverting those edits. ] (]) 16:22, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
: You need to get on the talk page and make your case, not edit war. There's no discernible difference between what Zap2it posted and what Futon Critic posted, and no consensus that one is more reliable than the other. ADH has an obnoxious habit of changing sources for no reason, and you're fostering behavior he's been warned to stop. --] (]) 16:24, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
:: Regardless of ADH's history, there are at times Futon can make incorrect reports and sometimes Zap2it has more updated versions of that certain news. I just thought you should know that before you start question my thoughts on whatever side I'm on. ] (]) 16:28, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
::: Show me the discussion and consensus to that effect. I never seen that, and never seen any issues with the currency of FC. Regardless, this isn't about questioning judgment, this is about an unexplained changed that resulted in an edit war that belonged on the article talk page as a discussion. --] (]) 16:34, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

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== POI ==

I'm beginning to think you ARE 15 years old. You're edit-warring. Pointing that out is not a personal attack. You had best stop the edit-warring before someone stops it for you. ←] <sup>'']''</sup> ]→ 18:34, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

: Bugs, is it possible for you to discuss something without cheap shots and personal attacks? I've begun to think it's not. Why don't you and your little friends go find an article to edit? --] (]) 19:15, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

== Talk page edits ==

As someone not involved in the subject, may I suggest you read the talk page guidlelines? ]. Calling an editor on his talk page "childish" is certainly more of a personal attack than his reference to "page owners". Given that form is plural, it obviously is not a personal attack on you. Rather than violate ] and run the risk of being brought up for vandalising talk page remarks, why don't you take this case to ANI yourself if you believe you are being attacked? ] (]) 18:38, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

: You too? Hiding behind plural doesn't alter the fact the attack is leveled at me; that it's also leveled at another editor as well doesn't mean it's not a personal attack. Bugs has a long history of this sort of editing. BTW, describing his edit as childish, which it is, is not a personal attack. It's a comment on an editorial choice he made. That's been discussed endlessly on ANI, a place for which I do not care to be fodder. I'll deal with Bugs directly. --] (]) 19:14, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

== May 2015 ==
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:{{reply to|‎Winkelvi}} I suggest you have a closer look at the content that Drmargi removed. It contained a clear personal attack (calling people "owners") from a serial attacker who has been accusing Drmargi of owning that article since at least September last year. I've had to step in previously over that editor's conduct, and I'm not the only one who has made comment. --] (]) 18:53, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

::I saw it. It said "owners". Plural. A general reference, not targeting one person, therefore, not a personal attack. Regardless, talk page comments only are removed under extreme circumstances. The comments removed did not fit the criteria. See ] for more. -- <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #0099FF, -4px -4px 15px #99FF00;">]</span> ● <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #FF9900, -4px -4px 15px #FF0099;">] ]</span> 18:57, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

:::Baseball Bugs has been fighting with Drmargi since at least last year. This is not a one-off instance. It's an ongoing problem. If you look at the whole discussion, and not just one or two posts you'll see that it was aimed at Drmargi. It is permissible to remove personal attacks. --] (]) 19:05, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

::: Oh, baloney. I am one of the targets, and playing fuzzy dummies over plural v. singular won't alter that. Bugs refuses to let a petty issue drop, and prefers to take pot shots when the opportunity presents itself. I won't tolerate being on the receiving end, period. --] (]) 19:09, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
::::I'm not fighting with anyone. It's YOU who won't let it go. ←] <sup>'']''</sup> ]→ 19:20, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

::::: Riiiiight. I'm the one who found it necessary, months after the issue that lead to all this was resolved, to come back to a discussion and leave yet another cheap shot. Go find somewhere else to play. --] (]) 19:25, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
::::::And you found it necessary to issue personal attacks against me on my own talk page. I pointed out that you and others were edit warring. That is not a personal attack, it's a ''fact''. I think the core issue is that you were wrong about the details of the 2014-2015 season, and that's what's gotten under your skin. To quote you yourself: Grow up. Get over it. ←] <sup>'']''</sup> ]→ 19:29, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

::::::I see far more personal attacks and cheap shots (as you called them) made by you, DM. You both should walk away, but it seems to me that you are the one finding it much more difficult to stop the personal attacks and drop the stick. -- <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #0099FF, -4px -4px 15px #99FF00;">]</span> ● <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #FF9900, -4px -4px 15px #FF0099;">] ]</span> 19:29, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

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== ] ==

Hope you're well. ] (]) 18:45, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

: ]. I'm doing well, and hope you are the same! --] (]) 19:05, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

:: Alles gut. Sorry to see you suffering at the hands of the usual suspects but glad to see you're rising above the detritus. ] (]) 20:49, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

::: Pfft! It's like swatting flies sometimes. One does what one must, then brushes off the dust. --] (]) 23:33, 15 May 2015 (UTC)


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:: I'm the last person who will believe what is found on the web. Because I never believe something until I see official/legitimate proof. And because I know a large percent of the web is hacker-based scams designed to infect computers with tracking software and/or other types of malware. As for believing everything online... sounds like the "one person jumps off a cliff so everyone follows" story lol. As for me, I am from the U.S. and currently living there, but I know about the Hollywood Reporter as much as I know about Deadline... NOTHING! lol Only because I don't usually follow the news or tabloids. <br> ] (]) 02:35, 17 May 2015 (UTC) :: I'm the last person who will believe what is found on the web. Because I never believe something until I see official/legitimate proof. And because I know a large percent of the web is hacker-based scams designed to infect computers with tracking software and/or other types of malware. As for believing everything online... sounds like the "one person jumps off a cliff so everyone follows" story lol. As for me, I am from the U.S. and currently living there, but I know about the Hollywood Reporter as much as I know about Deadline... NOTHING! lol Only because I don't usually follow the news or tabloids. <br> ] (]) 02:35, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

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This may be none of my business, but I've reached my breaking point in terms of your indirect personal attacks. Your indirect personal attack towards other editors and I ''" But you can't discuss when three petulant adolescents are throwing insults at one another, two of whom are unwilling to abide by a litany of editing, civility and discussion practices, and the third of whom is just in it to win at any cost. (Leaving aside the fourth adolescent who decided to make it all about her on ANI.)."'' was highly unnecessary. Right now, you are being uncivil and downright careless. This is an ANI report based on an article I occasionally participate in. It’s fine to have issues with users, but not by making it personal. With someone with over 25k edits, I expected a lot more than this. You’re being the adolescent here if you think personally attacking users will get you anywhere or makes you feel any better. There was an issue regarding about your editing and people chimed in. Get over it. Personally attacking other editors just because you don’t like them being against you is very uncivil and highly unnecessary. So what if I am an adolescent? Have I ever been reported to ANI/3RR/Vandalism? No. So I am more than capable to edit correctly. If you don’t like my comments, I don’t care. If you don’t like other people’s complaints, I don’t care. But to attack them with insults? That is a very adolescent behavior. This is more than the attacks above. This comes from your statement on a talk page, which I used as argument on my ANI comment: ''"That guy is in the UK, and doesn't know the first thing about American entertainment media, or he'd never have said what he did about the Hollywood Reporter."'' This again is another indirect personal attack. It does not matter where you’re from, how old you are, how long you’ve been editing, or what’s your current status on Misplaced Pages to edit here. If this continues, I am not afraid of reporting you to admins because this is seriously unnecessary and very offensive. This is getting out of hand and you need to learn to calm down when users are complaining about you. This is my only and final warning. If I stumble upon on personal attacks or insults made from you against any user, I will report you. Goodbye. ] (]) 01:04, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

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2014–15 United States network television schedule

Drmargi, there's a reason why I reverted those edits because the source because @AdamDeanHall: changed the refs to a more reliable source. Drovethrughosts has replace the refs to not the most reliable source and that's why I've been reverting those edits. BattleshipMan (talk) 16:22, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

You need to get on the talk page and make your case, not edit war. There's no discernible difference between what Zap2it posted and what Futon Critic posted, and no consensus that one is more reliable than the other. ADH has an obnoxious habit of changing sources for no reason, and you're fostering behavior he's been warned to stop. --Drmargi (talk) 16:24, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
Regardless of ADH's history, there are at times Futon can make incorrect reports and sometimes Zap2it has more updated versions of that certain news. I just thought you should know that before you start question my thoughts on whatever side I'm on. BattleshipMan (talk) 16:28, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
Show me the discussion and consensus to that effect. I never seen that, and never seen any issues with the currency of FC. Regardless, this isn't about questioning judgment, this is about an unexplained changed that resulted in an edit war that belonged on the article talk page as a discussion. --Drmargi (talk) 16:34, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
Well, boys, you can break out the broken boomerang all you want, but the fact remains that it Bugs had exercised a small measure of self-control, we wouldn't be here now. And with that, we're done. --Drmargi (talk) 20:33, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


POI

I'm beginning to think you ARE 15 years old. You're edit-warring. Pointing that out is not a personal attack. You had best stop the edit-warring before someone stops it for you. ←Baseball Bugs carrots18:34, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Bugs, is it possible for you to discuss something without cheap shots and personal attacks? I've begun to think it's not. Why don't you and your little friends go find an article to edit? --Drmargi (talk) 19:15, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Talk page edits

As someone not involved in the subject, may I suggest you read the talk page guidlelines? WP:TALK. Calling an editor on his talk page "childish" is certainly more of a personal attack than his reference to "page owners". Given that form is plural, it obviously is not a personal attack on you. Rather than violate WP:3RR and run the risk of being brought up for vandalising talk page remarks, why don't you take this case to ANI yourself if you believe you are being attacked? μηδείς (talk) 18:38, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

You too? Hiding behind plural doesn't alter the fact the attack is leveled at me; that it's also leveled at another editor as well doesn't mean it's not a personal attack. Bugs has a long history of this sort of editing. BTW, describing his edit as childish, which it is, is not a personal attack. It's a comment on an editorial choice he made. That's been discussed endlessly on ANI, a place for which I do not care to be fodder. I'll deal with Bugs directly. --Drmargi (talk) 19:14, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

May 2015

Information icon Please do not remove content from article talk pages on Misplaced Pages, as you did to Talk:List of Person of Interest episodes, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear constructive and has been reverted. Please make use of the sandbox if you'd like to experiment with test edits. Thank you. -- WV 18:41, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

@Winkelvi: I suggest you have a closer look at the content that Drmargi removed. It contained a clear personal attack (calling people "owners") from a serial attacker who has been accusing Drmargi of owning that article since at least September last year. I've had to step in previously over that editor's conduct, and I'm not the only one who has made comment. --AussieLegend () 18:53, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
I saw it. It said "owners". Plural. A general reference, not targeting one person, therefore, not a personal attack. Regardless, talk page comments only are removed under extreme circumstances. The comments removed did not fit the criteria. See WP:TPG for more. -- WV 18:57, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
Baseball Bugs has been fighting with Drmargi since at least last year. This is not a one-off instance. It's an ongoing problem. If you look at the whole discussion, and not just one or two posts you'll see that it was aimed at Drmargi. It is permissible to remove personal attacks. --AussieLegend () 19:05, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
Oh, baloney. I am one of the targets, and playing fuzzy dummies over plural v. singular won't alter that. Bugs refuses to let a petty issue drop, and prefers to take pot shots when the opportunity presents itself. I won't tolerate being on the receiving end, period. --Drmargi (talk) 19:09, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
I'm not fighting with anyone. It's YOU who won't let it go. ←Baseball Bugs carrots19:20, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
Riiiiight. I'm the one who found it necessary, months after the issue that lead to all this was resolved, to come back to a discussion and leave yet another cheap shot. Go find somewhere else to play. --Drmargi (talk) 19:25, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
And you found it necessary to issue personal attacks against me on my own talk page. I pointed out that you and others were edit warring. That is not a personal attack, it's a fact. I think the core issue is that you were wrong about the details of the 2014-2015 season, and that's what's gotten under your skin. To quote you yourself: Grow up. Get over it. ←Baseball Bugs carrots19:29, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
I see far more personal attacks and cheap shots (as you called them) made by you, DM. You both should walk away, but it seems to me that you are the one finding it much more difficult to stop the personal attacks and drop the stick. -- WV 19:29, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Illegitimi non carborundum

Hope you're well. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:45, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Invictus maneo. I'm doing well, and hope you are the same! --Drmargi (talk) 19:05, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
Alles gut. Sorry to see you suffering at the hands of the usual suspects but glad to see you're rising above the detritus. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:49, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
Pfft! It's like swatting flies sometimes. One does what one must, then brushes off the dust. --Drmargi (talk) 23:33, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

WP:ANI

Your name was mentioned there. Not in a bad way, but they should have notified you. ←Baseball Bugs carrots13:24, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, Bugs. It never should have gone to ANI in the first place. What nonsense. --Drmargi (talk) 20:18, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
That's one of the stranger reports I've seen at ANI. Every day is a new adventure. ←Baseball Bugs carrots22:33, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

A bit of unsolicited advice

...from someone who's received more than my share of slings and arrows on wiki. There's always humor to be found. Find it, and you whether weather (see?) the place better. Until then, let me know if I can help. Philippe Beaudette, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 20:10, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Well, ordinarily, I see the humor in most things lost past the time others do, however... in this case, the squabbling, edit warring and general new editor BS has gotten on my last nerve. Thanks for hatting the pile-on thread. --Drmargi (talk) 20:18, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Yet again

Wow, yet another person who won't give up on the CSI: Cyber talk page. Referring to the discussion of the guy leaving and it be sourced by Deadline. Don't worry, I'm staying out of this one. I'll just get myself in trouble again lol
DarienLeonhart (talk) 02:22, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Don't let it worry you. That guy is in the UK, and doesn't know the first thing about American entertainment media, or he'd never have said what he did about the Hollywood Reporter. Sadly, people don't think or read critically these days. If it's on the internet, it must be true seems to be the rule of the day. --Drmargi (talk) 02:30, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
I'm the last person who will believe what is found on the web. Because I never believe something until I see official/legitimate proof. And because I know a large percent of the web is hacker-based scams designed to infect computers with tracking software and/or other types of malware. As for believing everything online... sounds like the "one person jumps off a cliff so everyone follows" story lol. As for me, I am from the U.S. and currently living there, but I know about the Hollywood Reporter as much as I know about Deadline... NOTHING! lol Only because I don't usually follow the news or tabloids.
DarienLeonhart (talk) 02:35, 17 May 2015 (UTC)