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Thanks and a tip

Thanks for your contributions. Several of them look quite good to me. However, you might want to be a bit more carful when editing what we call, in Wikilingo, "WP:BLPs", or articles concerning the biographies of living people. When writing these, we are particularly conservative (in the general, not the political sense of the word). Statements should have good, reliable and secondary sources. I have reverted a couple of your edits where you either gave no sources, the sources were questionable, or primary. As an example, here you added a statement about a representative voting a particular way on a particular vote. Representatives typically vote on many votes, so by highlighting a subset in this way we can create bias. Therefore we require secondary sources discussing this particular vote, to evaluate if it is important enough to include in a biography. Take a look at WP:BLP yourself to see the background of these policies. Good luck and have fun! --Stephan Schulz (talk) 06:46, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for you advice. I'll try to abide by WP:BLP in the future. SilverSurfingSerpant (talk) 06:51, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Also, regarding my edit to James Hansen, you said it was "not even remotely true, and unsourced". That's half-right. It was unsourced, which was my bad, my source is right here. In that article, it's pretty clear Hansen did express concerns about the coming of so-called global cooling, which is why I included it in the article. If it's alright with you, I'd like to add it back, with the source. SilverSurfingSerpant (talk) 06:54, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

The Washington Times, despite its impressive name, was founded by Sun Myung Moon and is not always the most reliable source. Even so, the article you linked to does not support the edit- it states: James E. Hansen, who has publicly criticized the Bush administration for dragging its feet on climate change and labeled skeptics of man-made global warming as distracting “court jesters,” appears in a 1971 Washington Post article that warns of an impending ice age within 50 years. Note that "appears in" is different from "warns of". If you dig a little deeper, you will find that the WaPo in 1971 somewhat sensationalised a paper by Rasool and Schneider that talked about the possible impact of increasing particulate releases into the atmosphere. Rasool and Schneider applied a program developed by Hansen for analysing scattering in the atmosphere of Venus to Earth's atmosphere and acknowledged that, which the WaPo picked up per "If NASA contributed, it must be true". Hansen back then made no such claim, and even for R&S you need to ignore a lot of conditionals to claim that they made it. The original Science article is here, although it requires a log-in. --Stephan Schulz (talk) 07:22, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Edit summary

Hi, SilverSurfingSerpant, I think your contributions look good too. But please don't use edit summaries to express your own opinions, as here (an edit which Stephan Schultz mentioned too). See WP:EDSUM for the purpose of edit summaries. Bishonen | talk 22:15, 18 May 2015 (UTC).

Thank you, Bishonen. SilverSurfingSerpant (talk) 22:18, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

Nomination of United States presidential election in Georgia, 1980 for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article United States presidential election in Georgia, 1980 is suitable for inclusion in Misplaced Pages according to Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/United States presidential election in Georgia, 1980 until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. DES 23:24, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Arbitration notice

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Sources in other languages

Hello, thank you for your edits on Misplaced Pages and your updates at the 2015 Michoacán shootout. I just wanted to let you know that it is OK to use sources in other languages; if you can find a source that backs up the information in English, it's sometimes better to use that one. But using sources in other languages is OK too. In the article I just mentioned, the Spanish sources tend to be more detailed. Thanks! ComputerJA (☎ • ✎) 16:46, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

Alright, thanks for the advice. Like you said, it's somteimes better to use English sources, so after I removed the Spanish ones, I replaced them with English ones. I will keep this in mind in the future. SilverSurfingSerpant (talk) 16:49, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

Nomination of United States Senate election in Wyoming, 1988 for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article United States Senate election in Wyoming, 1988 is suitable for inclusion in Misplaced Pages according to Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/United States Senate election in Wyoming, 1988 until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Fyddlestix (talk) 19:01, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

Please be more careful

Please be more careful in your copying of content. In this article, United States presidential election in Washington (state), 1980 , supposedly about Washington State by the title, you have North Dakota in the text and in this article United States Senate election in Wyoming, 1988 elections, you had left the year as 1976 -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 02:56, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the fixes. SilverSurfingSerpant (talk) 02:58, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

I fixed the Senate article, but not the Washington/North Dakota one as I was not sure whether the error was in the titling or in the body. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 13:58, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Family Research Council

This is a good edit. Well done.

BTW: You do know that serpent is not spelled serpant, right? Quis separabit? 12:22, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, and yes, I just spelled it incorrectly, lol. SilverSurfingSerpant (talk) 12:48, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

you can request a name change via the steps laid out here: WP:UNC-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 13:56, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Why so aggressive?

Enough with the accusatory automessages. I've been on Misplaced Pages a long time, I know the ropes. No edit war; you automatically reverted my edit for not having an edit summary, and so I remade it with an edit summary. Cool it, Jeff.Zythe (talk) 19:52, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

I still don't see the need for its removal. I've got no problem with the removal of the editorializing though. The trivia wasn't necessary for removal, however, if you insist, I'm fine with it being gone. Reply SilverSurfingSerpent (talk) 19:56, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Collège catholique Samuel-Genest

Hello, I'm 98.230.192.179. I wanted to let you know that I undid one or more of your recent contributions to Collège catholique Samuel-Genest because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. 98.230.192.179 (talk) 23:32, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Oh, my bad, I thought I was undoing vandalism SilverSurfingSerpent (talk) 23:34, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Hello SilverSurfingSerpent, Chazghir9 here. Thank you for catching my edit glitch, and so quickly! Here’s what I was trying to remedy, and being a newbie here, didn’t do so quite up to speed. I noted on the wik. page for Idrees Sulieman, jazz trumpet player, that he had played with the Carolina Cotton Pickers. I wondered about this and discovered that this group, the Carolina Cotton Pickers “was the seminal turning band created in the 1920s from the roster of Jenkins Orphanage Band musicians.” I found this at: http://www.charlestonjazz.net/carolina-cotton-pickers/

Still curious, I discovered that the list of musicians at this Charleston jazz Initiative site does not included Sulieman. Thus I messaged them about this - and perhaps they’ll be able to confirm if Sulieman was or was not a member of this band. And if he was, they’ll revise their page and include him. Additionally, I did notice as you may have, or certainly will… that in the Sulieman page, the statement that he was with the Carolina Cotton Pickers is not sourced. Hopefully the Charleston Jazz Initiative will respond to my query and these gaps can be properly solved. Chazghir9 (talk) 23:46, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

No problem, you're free to re-add it, just make sure you've added the citation this time too. Happy editing! SilverSurfingSerpent (talk) 23:48, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

History of the Jews in Bulgaria

You reverted my edit on History of the Jews in Bulgaria. I had fixed the mistake made by a user back in January, who wrote that Maxim Behar was Bulgarian-Israeli. He is Jewish, but he is not Israeli, or at least it's not written anywhere on the web, including his personal web pages. It's no secret he has ties with Israel and Israeli/Jewish organizations around the world, but nowhere on the web has been mentioned that he has an Israeli citizenship. I searched on Google for a pretty long time after you reverted my edit, but found nothing that supports the (unsourced!) statement made by Yogisenact on 6 January 2015. I am not going to research the correct spelling of Maxim Behar's name in Hebrew and search for him in an Israeli citizens database (if there is one at all). There's no need to be anal about something rather unimportant, and after all let's not forget that it's pretty hard to prove the nonexistence of something. Anyway, even if the guy in question has an Israeli citizenship, that does not truly make him Bulgarian-Israeli - a Bulgarian-Israeli should mean someone who has been born in Bulgaria but lives predominantly in Israel - Behar's main place of residence is Bulgaria, as evidenced by a lot of sources, like the mailing address here.

Sorry to say it, but your revert was rather counterproductive - I had included something important about him, namely the fact that he is mainly known for being a PR expert. Is the word "expert" the problem? That's the word we use in Bulgarian, I guess in English it might sound NPOV - I'll replace it with " professional", which seems to be the preferred wording in the Public relations article.

I sort of feel like having been trolled (which I know was not your intention) wasting more than an hour in rather pointless research... But hey! :) At least I learned something more about that guy (about whom I've been somewhat interested previously). 77.70.30.216 (talk) 01:32, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

Noted. You can add your change back. SilverSurfingSerpent (talk) 01:35, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

Actually, I've already done it for you. SilverSurfingSerpent (talk) 01:36, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

I made a new edit in order to alphabetize the list, change "expert" to "professional" and remove some of the superfluous spaces (which tend to annoy me somewhat, which is why I remove them from articles sometimes). 77.70.30.216 (talk) 01:46, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

Previous accounts

please can you declare any previous accounts you have edited with. If you would prefer you can email me using the wikipedia Mail system or contact the arbitration committee who maintain a log of users with previous accounts. Thanks. Spartaz 17:54, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

Making sure

Are you taking full responsibility for the copyright status and accuracy of the licensing information in this file, which was added by a block evading IP? --Jezebel's Ponyo 23:11, 26 May 2015 (UTC)