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"despised and rejected"
singing the praises of the scuttled the banned and those who have just given up just given up

Hope is precious and great joy is found in living

Thank you for the sapphire—cornflower blue is a color of some significance to me. In the maelstrom that Misplaced Pages can sometimes be, remember these words from Ode to Joy:

   Wem der große Wurf gelungen,
   Eines Freundes Freund zu sein,
   Wer ein holdes Weib errungen,
   Mische seinen Jubel ein!
   Ja, wer auch nur eine Seele
   Sein nennt auf dem Erdenrund!
   Und wer's nie gekonnt, der stehle
   Weinend sich aus diesem Bund! 

Walk lightly and remain yourself, above the fray. →StaniStani  09:20, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, it helps to open my shop again. - I sang the words last year, here, helping. The blue colour is also of significance to me. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:28, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

shop open --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:43, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Yay  :-)     — 74.192.84.101 (talk) 03:16, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Schmeichelnd, hold und lieblich (Graceful, charming and sweet is the sound of our life’s harmonies, and from a sense of beauty arise flowers which eternally bloom.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:17, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Hi

I'm so glad to see you still around Gerda, and still promoting kindness and love. Every day you share your gift of life, of music, of thought, of acceptance, of tolerance, and of love. I know you are born of the great country of Germany, and in many ways I share that heritage. I was born and raised in the US; but I thought I might share this with you because the whole idea makes me think of you:

— Ched :  ?  05:33, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

my gift to you. — Ched :  ?  05:44, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

User:Ched
Born	1957 (age 66–67)
Other names	User:Chedzilla

Thank you, Ched. - Is this what you requested? (And what I hesitate to put on your user page, afraid of another round of arb enforcement) - I found no parameter for gender=male in {{infobox person}}.

"This little light of mine" was regularly sung at a Sunday Gospel Brunch, by a gospel group lead by an enormous woman (enormous both in body and spirit), and the restaurant guests, children only in the first verse, - thanks for bringing back lovely memories!

Je suis - I follow the one who quoted "The only real nation is humanity", pictured on top and (because I sometimes change) here, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:07, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

• Yep - exactly what I wanted. Thank you very much Gerda. I will have a look at articles soon. — Ched :  ?  17:42, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
  • Hey Ched, where you been? Good to see you. - Dank (push to talk) 17:56, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for great work on the structure and sources of Bach's Mass in B minor!

I don't know the best way or place to write to you to thank you. (There is a heart icon that links to a way to send appreciation, but I don't understand it.) So, this is where I am thanking you for all the work on the sources of the movements of the mass, etc. After making a few edits today, I saw the history and see all you have done to create (I think) and improve this page. Thanks!! A Bach-lover...David Couch (talk) 08:34, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. My promised article. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:43, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

A well-deserved barnstar

		The Barnstar of Integrity
		Gerda, for your ceaseless efforts across the project to recognize and encourage civility, goodwill, and all manner of useful contributions -- and just generally to foster a collegial and warm atmosphere -- I hope you will accept this barnstar. I had considered giving you the Random Acts of Kindness star or the PumpkinSky Prize, but (unsurprisingly) I find they've already been awarded, so I've settled on this option, fresh and just as appropriate as it is. All my best. Snow talk 03:34, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

The "notorious infoboxes criminal" accepts with delight! I was planning to write on Geh aus, mein Herz, und suche Freud today (my mom's favourite song on her birthday) which is about seeking joy, - now joy just comes ;) - Thank you, made my day! (I still plan to expand the article, it's not too obvious anyway that it's about actively seeking joy when you don't see any.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:45, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

Well, geteilte Freude ist doppelte Freude, as the old chestnut goes -- and it's always nice in particular to share it with someone who so exemplifies that perspective. But regardless of the source, I hope the day brings you more joy still.  :) Snow talk 10:47, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

Enjoyable hike so far! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:41, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

Roth and Fowles, epitaphs and graves

Hi Gerda. Do you remember what I said here? I took a long time to upload that image for the Ernst Roth article. Now I've finally managed to do the same for the Leonard N. Fowles article. It being a musical subject and both having epitaphs related to that, I thought you might appreciate a note about this. On another note, I mentioned decay of graves in that comment back in January 2014, and you can see for yourself the difference in the condition of the graves if you look at the articles: William Birdwood, 1st Baron Birdwood, Ernst Roth, Francis Francis (writer), Herbert Edgar Weston, Frederick James Camm, Leonard N. Fowles, Laurence Oliphant (author), Joseph Jackson Howard, Edward Stanley Gibbons. Carcharoth (talk) 10:06, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! - Brief, on vacation, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:18, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

(whistle- imagine the sound file)

	Nightingale Award
	For the singing, feeding and cheering you do, at-tending to all of us, birds of many feathers. Wuerzele (talk) 09:11, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

"... die hochbegabte Nachtigall / ergötzt und füllt mit ihrem Schall / Berg, Hügel, Tal und Felder" - thank you, delighful composition! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:40, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

User:Gerda Arendt/Davenbelle

What exactly is User:Gerda Arendt/Davenbelle? Obviously you're not banned. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 17:35, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

Obviously that is not my user page. Why do you change other users' pages and ask them questions about them? - In a good mood, I answer that he took my lead image and made an admirable entry: "I'm a new user on Misplaced Pages. I'm proceeding cautiously, but will carefully consider and comments or criticism that comes my way" which I take care to remember. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:22, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

ps: better redirect a user page to the talk instead of the other way round, because others may want to add to the talk. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:25, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

One happy editor

Dear Gerda, - I want to thank you, so much, for naming me an "awesome Wikipedian" for my work on the Mark Satin biography, and for giving me my day! As you may know, the article was "Today's featured article" on the Main Page that day, and I (with others' help) have had to spend all my Misplaced Pages time since then digging out from under various malicious edits and inappropriate edits. Receiving the award when I did made these last 10 days much more bearable for me.

I would love to put news of the award on my talk page! I've done so in the text, but I would prefer doing so with a Userbox, particularly if it has that gorgeous blue sapphire on it. Is there one? I'll watch this space for your reply. - Babel41 (talk) 04:21, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

There is a box, further down on the awards list, created by the earlier givers. There is no one with the sapphire, - the square box would not match the designer's ideas. Create something?

I dropped the "their own day" because that was true only the first year, and I don't like "his or her" anyway ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:19, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Yes, and "their own day" may be too, um, precious to boot. But I love the box above and as you'll see, I simply linked the "Awesome Wikipedian" phrase in it to the PumpkinSky Prize page, which appears to go from 2012 right up to the present. I hope that's not stepping on any toes. - Babel41 (talk) 06:53, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, good idea. I made it an inline link. We'll see about the toes ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:01, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

The Non Barnstar

Barnstars are well intended but for my taste they are a little too impersonal; sort of like a store-bought greeting card versus a handwritten letter. So I am taking this opportunity to say that Misplaced Pages is a better place because you are here. I wish you all the best. PS: Have you ever sung Berg's Altenberg Lieder? I think maybe it is not quite your style of music but I find the pieces hauntingly beautiful, and the words are simple but profound. Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 03:53, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for the lovely musical note! No, I didn't sing those songs, nor even know them (yet), - I like simple but profound! - Did you know that "you" are mentioned on my user page, sort of? Look for laugh ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:03, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Congratulations

Recent research has revealed you to be one of the kindest editors. (Citation to follow.) All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 01:52, 6 February 2015 (UTC).

The toxic personality thanks you ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:33, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Here is the citation. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 01:11, 8 February 2015 (UTC).

the blue stone

Dear Gerda, Thankyou for the anniversary message and the fanfare (that's a good article) - the stone, like the music, has a seraphic clarity and spiritual warmth. Just what one needs in these cruel months of the year. I have been reading the psalms in Latin, with St Augustine's comments, and am amazed. Also Jeremy Irons's Four Quartets (Eliot) (Radio 4 broadcast) is still reverberating - that dude is right on the vibe. So we are rather off in our own world, and loving it! ;) kind regards Eebahgum (talk) 22:08, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

thank you - reverberating Halelu-hu ... - from Jenkin's Gloria ... loving it! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:11, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Always watching

There's a few things I don't know.

Like how you know what to watch, or where.

But there's one thing I do know. If you didn't exist we'd be poorer. Much poorer.

Thanks Gerda. (everyone else can wonder, or work it out, or ask, or fail to care...).

You're still awesome. That makes me smile. And it always will. Take care.

Begoon  13:20, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

I am close to 20k pages on my watchlist, easy answer: the precious and the banned and especially those who are both. - Thanks for placing me in the cat with no permission to remove, - I would have removed ;) - --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:43, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

I know you would have. That's why I told you that you couldn't. Begoon  04:27, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, Gerda!

Heartfelt thanks for your gracious note!

I suppose that another way to comment about the "curtains" argument would be to say: "Curtains conceal, infoboxes reveal."

Orwell does indeed offer a number of good recommendations for writing, which I try to keep in mind when I write and edit.

As one contributes to Misplaced Pages, one hopes that someone, somewhere will understand what one has written and will perhaps find it useful.

It was gratifying to hear from you.

I'll look for your work.

Thank you. Nihil novi (talk) 04:08, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Thank you - I will remember and quote "Curtains conceal, infoboxes reveal." and give credit to you - for good news in an indifferent universe ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:36, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Geh aus, mein Herz, und suche Freud

On 19 February 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Geh aus, mein Herz, und suche Freud, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that "Geh aus, mein Herz, und suche Freud", written by Paul Gerhardt after the Thirty Years War, was translated as "Go Forth, My Heart, and Seek Delight"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Geh aus, mein Herz, und suche Freud. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:02, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Original and best :) In ictu oculi (talk) 04:10, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Joy! said --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:09, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

I woke up,

fell out of bed and didn’t even drag a comb across my head, but instead, headed for my computer and wikipedia. You can not imagine (as if I really know anything about your imagination) how good it felt to receive your note and gem. Last night a brother and I had been trying to track down a star sapphire ring of my mother’s and although we were not successful finding that, yours on my desktop this a.m. seems . . …. significant. Your summation of my wikipedia career was impressive and insightful and yes, I will miss TParis. I also realize that looking at your user page almost prompted me to launch into my life story, but I won’t. Thank you again for your jewel, Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 19:26, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

I think I can imagine because I still remember the feeling when I was honoured, - you saw it on my user page. My life stories - well, the notable parts - are linked from "memories", DYK? I miss the photographer of the gem, and the designer of the award, and many more, but the list of the Precious is much longer, - it's my way to retain myself ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:34, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

thank you!

Oh, thank you for the hypnotic blue jewel and the PumpkinSky Prize you left on my desk when I wasn't looking. Very thoughtful and encouraging, especially coming from somebody with her Herz an der richtigen Stelle. Vielen dank! Lockley (talk) 18:13, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Lockley , you are still alive ! I heard that, . . . . . . . . . . . . . .................. no wait, that was someone else. Still nice to meet you in this warm neutral setting. Carptrash (talk) 19:37, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Thank you

cos LessHeard vanU (talk) 09:49, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

I take any blame ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:05, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks!

I would give you an award but I don't know how. Thank you for your tireless work on Twitchell. So glad we got the photo reinstated. Thank you for the beaucoup edits you have made on behalf of the Women's History Month overview. Thanks for reviewing so many of my DYK. The list is endless. I appreciate you. SusunW (talk) 01:47, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

I love the prose rewards, see under blushing above ;) - It's lovely to work with you, just looking at the photos of women you uploaded is uplifting, so are the nice infoboxes you give your articles, and the stories you have to tell! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:52, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

		The Angel Heart Barnstar
		I appreciate all that you do. Random acts of kindness make the world a better place. It is hard being a newbie but it is much better when there are people supporting you and helping you along the way. SusunW (talk) 14:09, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

You found a good one ;) - You are an inspiration to others, did you know? Want to join the cabal? Half of the active members are female ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:29, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Wir danken dir, Gott, wir danken dir, BWV 29

On 29 March 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Wir danken dir, Gott, wir danken dir, BWV 29, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Bach used music of thanks from his cantata Wir danken dir, Gott, wir danken dir, BWV 29, for his final Dona nobis pacem (Grant us peace)? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Wir danken dir, Gott, wir danken dir, BWV 29. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Coffee // have a cup // beans // 12:02, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

About your comments etc.

Hi Gerda

Thanks for the award! I think you might have wondered what I've been up to recently, it might not be very clear. Well I've worked mainly on the help system, created a couple of pages (Help:Table/HTML_and_tables and Misplaced Pages:Template messages/Examples), and recently updated Template:ArbCom navigation.

Well I've noticed you around as well. Looking at your user pages it's clear to me that you're a legend here, and sorting out awards is admirable.

I was thinking about what you said on the noticeboard, and was meaning to reply. I don't think you can blame yourself for what happened to Dreadstar really. In my opinion he was showing clear signs of stress. For example, misunderstanding what MB had meant, and then sending that e-mail. And as I said before, I think his unblocking of MB was just so he could exit WP once and for all, as I think he knew it would lead to his desysopping. He'd had enough of it all, and who can blame him? I think WP can be stressful at times, as well as rewarding. Maybe his stress was WP related, in which he's probably best out. But if it isn't then I'm not sure there is much we can do. Having said that, maybe he'll want to return at some point, but he'd have to go through RfA again to get admin status, so I'm not too sure about that.

But anyway, that's my opinion on things, which may or may not be correct! All the best. --Mrjulesd (talk) 13:08, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for your thoughtful message. I am sorry that I didn't make clear that I was sarcastic taking the blame (all blame). I said so but perhaps in too hidden a corner. Dreadstar was with me for years and knows that I was sarcastic. He did the right thing, but "out of process". (MB is unblocked.) I said that also. Perhaps you saw on my userpage that I dedicated the article in question to him. You are right that we can't do anything to make him return, but we can do what you did: contradicting people who blame him. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:41, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. Well I'm glad to hear that really. That explains things a bit better. Anyway, speak later. --Mrjulesd (talk) 00:39, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Singing first, happy Easter! The closest I came to see resurrection here was this, "Thank you for stepping forward for what's right and for everyone!" Worth living for, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:56, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Indeed! I hope you enjoy your music. Happy Easter to you and all your watchers. --Mrjulesd (talk) 12:02, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Gerechtigkeitsspirale

On 23 April 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Gerechtigkeitsspirale, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that a church's 1510 spiral of justice (pictured) declares: "Justice suffered in great need. Truth is slain dead. Faith has lost the battle"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Gerechtigkeitsspirale. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Panyd 14:31, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Cheers!

I Like Gerda.

If only all women were so easy to please. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 12:02, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

I commented. - I - easy to please??? April Fool? - I don't like the waste of time the GGTF arb case has cost, with no end in sight. - I don't like people leaving in frustration, see Hafspajen and Victoria, among others, on top of those missed already (see my infobox on top, "despised and rejected", - did you know that I wrote the article in 2011, because I didn't like how an editor was driven away?). - I don't like that you didn't answer my request, remember? (If not: My advice for a peace treaty would be simple: recommend that every (!) editor in (infobox) discussions would think twice about a second revert in the same matter, and three times about a third comment in the same. Can you word that in legal language to the arbitrators?) Sorry, I forgot the question mark then. - Did you see my DYK for lawyers? - What I like? Curtains up for Lohengrin! ---Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:16, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

I did LIKE your DYK, but I did not know that it was specific to lawyers. As for opera, my exposure is mostly to Italian classic, Mozart, American Broadway musicals of the Rodgers & Hammerstein and Lerner & Loewe variety, and, of course . . . Bugs Bunny. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 12:29, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

I only said "for", not "specific to", "for" meaning "good for" ;) - If you look at Lohengrin, what strikes you as almost blasphemous for a work by Wagner (only other so far the Wesendonck Lieder), while all of Verdi and some of Mozart (Don Giovanni) have it? - Did you know that a bunny took the pic of the monkeys? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:38, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

ps: like like, - that article was later my first GA, written by an indeffed user, - one of the outcasts ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:21, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

ps: like like, liking a barnstar from a banned user ("For believing in the goodness of people above all. For having faith and being willing to work on a cause that seemed hopeless.") - 14 April 2012 and no end of cases that seem hopeless, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:27, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Congratulations 100,000 edits

		100000 Edits
		Congratulations on reaching 100000 edits. You have achieved a milestone that only 313 editors have been able to accomplish. I have been looking forward to bestowing this award to you for months. The Misplaced Pages Community thanks you for your continuing efforts to brighten our WikiWorld with you wonderful spirit of acknowledgement. You are a Beacon of Peace! Keep up the good work!

. Buster Seven Talk 15:15, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, a day to celebrate ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:55, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Wow! Congratulations. What a milestone! SusunW (talk) 19:26, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! - Actually not really a milestone, - I am not counting ;) - It came as quite a pleasant surprise, while I had carefully planned my DYK #500 (and nobody noticed), - it was also the expression of gratitude to a person who was still alive then. - If you read that you will understand that in the award, I like "peace" above all! That's a milestone for an alleged warrior, thank you, Buster, - you always know what I need before I do, last time it was koekjes ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:49, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Congratulations Gerda. That's a lot of edits and a huge contribution to Misplaced Pages.(Littleolive oil (talk) 22:42, 14 May 2015 (UTC))

For a time, you and I have had similar edit counts, plus or minus a bit. But I just noticed you crossed the 100,000 threshold and wanted to congratulate you on that accomplishment. Misplaced Pages and its readers have certainly benefited by what you do. Thank you, Gerda. --Rosiestep (talk) 06:00, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, Rosie! I would be happier though with a lower count, without the edits I spent for arbitration ;) - Your position in DYK does more for readers! - I keep going with Hope (and patience), --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:39, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

While those edits spent at arbitration were tiring, I am sure, perhaps other editors learned from them and "lessons learned" are important, too. You are writing as a pioneer in this amazing online encyclopedia, and someday, some academician will study your words and write a dissertation, including the arb stuff you went through, but more importantly, of course, all the FA, GA, DYK, etc. content brought to light by you. We may be long gone by then, but I don't doubt it for a minute that our words are important, and that 100,000 edits is monumental. --Rosiestep (talk) 21:29, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

I would be interested how an independent spirit would look at the "arb stuff". My version is short: the case I was in - infoboxes - was requested because when {{infobox opera}} was introduced I embraced it, others reverted, a friend requested arbitration, - there the mere mentioning of "infobox" raised memories of years of battles, and everybody gathered to get revenge for those battles. The workshop phase was actually quite productive, including a suggestion for Beethoven which is now in the article. The lesson I learned: patience ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:52, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Congratulations! You're awesome! Hawkeye7 (talk) 06:35, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

I pnly just noticed this celebration of your productivity. Congratulations! Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 07:15, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! Better: I even escaped the prison mentioned above, see ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:23, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

• What a star! Congratulations, Gerda, on achieving an amazing amount of top-quality work here. Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:59, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, I do what I can, within my limits. GA for GA, one under review, one nominated (not by me), next planned, - we try to improve, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:44, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

Something different?

You can probably bring this up to DYK standard in short order if you'd like a break from opera articles. Alakzi (talk) 18:14, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your trust but I am busy, want this for GA (comments on the table welcome, put some questions on the template talk) and have a holiday tomorrow, - last opera was last year, I believe, singers yes, - I have a list on my user page ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:24, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

I have replied on the template talk page. Alakzi (talk) 20:22, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, makes sense. - Have a look at a musical table, - do you know {{sortname}}, - I left a question on the talk --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:32, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

OK, that was not obvious at all; I've replied there. Table looks good. Alakzi (talk) 22:55, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Stepping up for what is right

SG for Dreadstar On 6 June 2015, Schon gewusst? was updated with a fact from the translation of the article Dreadstar (graphic novel), which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was: Dreadstar, seit 1982 Held einer gleich­namigen Comic­serie und einer Graphic Novel, ist für eine Fern­seh­serie im Gespräch. (Dreadstar, from 1982 hero of a comic series and a graphic novel, is considered for a TV series.) You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (quick check).

note to self --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:17, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Special Barnstar
	Well this is mainly for all your work with the Pumpkin sky prize, it makes the real jewel around here. Also thanks for the encouragement you've shown me, I'm always touched... --Jules (Mrjulesd) 20:29, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

My day today, it seems: a new GA, lead image on DYK, + this! - Did you already smile at the irony on Cassianto's page? - Likewise: every time I see your name something sensible gets done, like closing another waste of time. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:38, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for that! Well I'm glad that you had a good day! Well it goes without saying that your contributions here are huge, but I've a special place in my heart for people that nurture and encourage, to me but also to so many others. All my best wishes --Jules (Mrjulesd) 10:59, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

I feel understood - and will place this star under "blushing", although I didn't blush this time ;) - Encouragement; did you know that I worded a DYK about that (article not by me) and used it, not always successfully so, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:25, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Sibelius Tone Poems

Hey! Thanks for making edits to the infoboxes on En saga and The Bard. I was the person who first made these boxes (nice touch, no? :] ) and I like the fix you've made. However, I would encourage you to maintain the consistency among the tone poem pages and, thus, to make the identical change to the others: The Oceanides, Spring Song, Lemminkäinen Suite, Tapiola, The Wood Nymph, Pohjola's Daughter, Finlandia, etc. Also, if you're willing, I think it might be nice to add these to the 7 symphonies and the the violin concerto as well. I have held off doing so because I am busy with school, but if you want to use the template and tackle it, then be my (our) guest.

While we're on the topic of the template, do you have any other thoughts? The only other piece of information that I have left out that might be nice is the orchestra that performed the premiere; I did not feel the need or have the time to track down first recordings for everything, but this information may be in the back of the Andrew Barnett book I have (I'll check). Also, it is my opinion that the standard format should be to use the same picture of Sibelius for every composition, to help it feel like a 'series' of articles. Thoughts? Nice to meet a fellow Sibelian, if in fact you are. I have recently written the page for The Wood Nymph and The Oceanides. Improving the Sibelius tone poems is a little, periodic hobby of mine.

Regards, Sgvrfjs (talk) 01:18, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Note also that in The Bard you eliminated 'form' from the infobox after placing the words 'Tone poem' up top by 'Jean Sibelius', whereas in En saga you did not. We should standardize this. :) Sorry, to quibble! Haha. Sgvrfjs (talk) 01:25, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Hey! Someone just came in yesterday and edited the Oceanides infobox without reading or participating in the discussion we had begun on the talk page. I wish people would discuss things first; now the Oceanides doesn't match the infoboxes on the other Sibelius tone poem pages. Thoughts on what to do? I am of course not saying that the edit was bad or malicious or unnecessary (maybe I'll even support it), but I thought talk pages where were we as a community were supposed work things out. My whole desire is consistency. :( Sgvrfjs (talk) 07:00, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Bad news: if you go for consistency you will get unhappy here. Good news: the infobox was not reverted. (Two years ago, it would have been, with a two-letter-edit summary.) This is the encyclopedia anybody can edit without going to the talk page first, and I like that. There are now two paths you can pursue: you swallow it, at least for the moment, or you address the user - who is excellent in quality control for all DYK articles before they go to the Main page - and ask why. If you manage to explain to her that it makes a difference to have "Orchestral" as a genre (a specific value for a specific attribute), instead of added to the type (a loss of granularity), you make my day ;) - I don't know your appetite for discussion, - I remember Peter Planyavsky ;)

ps: I also remember from project opera (March 2013): "I therefore suggest that the next person who mentions 'granularity' (yes, I mean you, Gerda), or who attempts to bully editors by alleging huge techno revolutions going on somewhere out there, is suspended from this project for a period ranging from one femasecond to numerous millenia." - but this is my talk ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:31, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Hahaha... you really made me laugh! I want to avoid the infobox wars at all costs! I have no stomach for them, and I agree that at least the silver lining is that the box itself survived. Do people really fight like cats and dogs on here?! I hope they were kidding about banning you. I guess I'll just swallow the edit and move on. Article talk pages really are useless. Oh, and I admit I still don't understand the GA nomination stuff. Would you mind (pretty please) just a slightly more detailed explanation. And, gasp, I think I prefer the Oceanides first :D Oh, what a night I have wasted away...numerous millenia! Sgvrfjs (talk) 08:08, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

I like making laugh ;) - The remark was meant to be funny, which I didn't get first because I can get serious about granularity and accessibility. (The authors who don't like an infobox on their "beautifully crafted article" remind me of architects who don't like a ramp for the handicapped.) It was not about banning! (only "suspension" from the project, - which I left voluntarily but returned in 2015, much better harmony now!) Big difference. A friend of mine was threatened to really be banned (no editing at all), citing an edit on said Planyavsky, - find which ;) (If you don't want to dig, shortcut.) - To answer your question: some fight like cats and dogs, but we better stay away. - How about waiting for tomorrow with the GA thing. I will come to your talk, and we take step by step? - General: for GA, one user nominates, one user picks the review (which can take months, long backlog, but if you ask someone nicely you can have it started the same day) and evaluates against the criteria. Tim even goes further and discusses questions beyond the criteria. - For FA: several users can nominate (if several collaborated), and it needs the support of several (minimum five) and no justified oppose. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:28, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Oh, and can you tell me: why do infoboxes exist if so many editors are opposed to their use? Just seems weird to have them when all they do is cause conflict and anguish. How were they ever created in the first place if they were so controversial? I was lazily reading through your talk page because I was bored. All this stuff about arbitration and blocking and Lawrence Olivier's infobox. It really turns me off from this whole enterprise, all the negativity and anger. I also don't understand the hierarchy and power relations. How do people become admins? Who runs an arbitration board? Why are some people tasked as experts on GA and FA articles? How did this whole community develop?! It's mind-boggling for me :) Sgvrfjs (talk) 08:50, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

(edit conflict, therefor here:) Infoboxes exist to aid readers, as images and tables. Most editors support that. Limited few (!) don't, - some of whom don't even know what an infobox is. Please don't get discouraged because of the limited few! One (see Rigoletto) said they have to summarize "the key facts" which is impossible. Misunderstanding: they only have to summarize "key facts". Again big difference. No infobox will be able to capture the genius of Beethoven, but can an article? - You can just keep adding infoboxes to your articles because high is the belief in the article creator to determine. (I wonder why? The readers should have a say.) - Please don't get discouraged because of the limited few!! - People become admins by a defined procedure, but it is no position of power but cleaning. The arbitrators are elected by the community, half of the board once a year for a two-year-term. Nobody is tasked as expert on GA, nor FA, everybody can review and comment. I don't do GA reviews because I am not a native speaker of English and can't really tell prose quality. I comment on FA candidates. - I don't know about the project's big bang. - Please don't get discouraged because of the limited few!!! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:24, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Just saw your offer to help tomorrow on the GA nom. Thanks!!! Sgvrfjs (talk) 09:10, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Fine! Ping me if I forget ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:24, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

@Gerda Arendt: If the offer still stands on the step-by-step GA walk through, I'm presently available :D Sgvrfjs (talk) 04:16, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

• @Sgvrfjs: Have just been reading through this interesting discussion. I would just like you to know that I have been contributing to Misplaced Pages since 2006 and have never been directly involved in infobox disputes or edit wars (although I've often tried to pour oil on troubled waters by communicating with those involved by email). On the contrary, I have found that in most cases, even the most violent contributors can provide lots of excellent support if only they are treated with understanding and respect. So please don't be put off by the possibility of running into trouble. You will find most of us helpful and cooperative. And in this connection, I too would be only too happy to help you with bringing your articles up to GA.--Ipigott (talk) 20:46, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for the support. I have also never been in an edit war, and "respect" is my key word ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:02, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Arbitration

I received the following two messages. My first impulse was to archive or even delete. The design of this page is influenced by Br'er Rabbit and Hafspajen, and the pompous style doesn't fit. - After thinking, though, I left them as an anchor for discussion. How could this request, declined by all who commented, grow to what we see below? I made my comments in the workshop, about a huge waste of human potential which is correctly named "ebforcement". I dream of getting rid of, replacing it by something productive which is not driven by the power (and interest) of individuals. Did you know that at present an admin who sees a clear violation is free to act? Acting meaning most often a block, a net loss for Misplaced Pages? - Comments best in the workshop. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:26, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

By motion, the Arbitration Committee authorises the following injunction effective immediately:

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Arbitration enforcement arbitration case opened

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It looks like arbitration is sitting about the unclear rules and rulings of arbitration. - I tell myself to assume good faith, but it takes a lot. The topic of yesterday's cantata is The Mote and the Beam. My statement was:

I request the committee to look at an aspect of AE that troubles me: a report without a talk to the other user before. A talk, hoping for a revert, has been done, and I suggest AE to request it if not done, before comments even begin, hoping that the user in question will revert or modify the edit in question.

The Sunday sermon in music is about mercy.

Further reading:

• Read a book
• Take a stroll

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:09, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

I am known for my dreams. How about amnesty? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:04, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

I was reading the case talk page when I came to realise that I'm now in risk of being blocked for having nominated a page one of the "named parties" created for deletion. Alakzi (talk) 15:31, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Nothing would surprise me here any more (quoting myself from much earlier) but deletion proposals are probably not among the actions that might get you in trouble related to this. Speaking to me might be more dangerous ;) I borrowed the above from User talk:Kiefer.Wolfowitz, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:38, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

I can't believe it how similarly we think: I fixes the end span - and didn't get an edit conflict because you had done the same thing! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:46, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

hah! Yeah, I'd not think anybody would think to block me for it, but I don't know what to think anymore. Perhaps I just need to stop thinking. Alakzi (talk) 18:17, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Dammit, now I'm tempted to close it and get a ruling on whether closing a deletion discussion is inherently an "admin action".

The secretly immature part of my brain really wants to find a harmless, trivial way to violate an overly broad restriction implemented in response to a harmless, trivial violation of an overly broad restriction. Opabinia regalis (talk) 19:21, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

You'd not want to put an end to our pursuit for objective truth though, would you? Alakzi (talk) 20:52, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

I coined "petty restriction" in 2012, - before I even knew what arbcom means, - about the time when I put Reformation on my user page, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:06, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

... reading there - amused: "Not impressed with the rhetoric. Accessibility is a core WMF priority and many existing visible styles are really poor." - Didn't change much in three years. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:10, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Am I the only one who finds it funny that the admin corps are suddenly offended by ArbCom? It's all good when ArbCom rip into the common folk, but God forbid they send our admins a stern message. Alakzi (talk) 21:47, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

I am not there often, but it seems rare that a sitting arb is a party. I tried to talk to her, but she has obviously other concerns. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:56, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

If I didn't know better, I'd think imposing an unreasonable restriction on a group containing advocates of very strict interpretations of unreasonable restrictions was a clever accelerationist move. But all the kvetching about how the wording on the notice was less than greeting-card friendly is pretty funny. Opabinia regalis (talk) 09:06, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

You manage to cheer me up, you two, - welcome to my talk, Opabinia regalis! Alakzi recently joined the cabal of the outcasts, DYK? The term "outcasts" was featured on this talk in 2013, connected to a woman who was an alleged witch, pardoned 300 years after her trial, good company ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:35, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! Ha. There is a cabal of people not in the cabal. Opabinia regalis (talk) 09:06, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Some people are in the cabal without signing up, such as Alakzi (before) and you, - what you do makes you part of it, as I hope you don't mind ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:31, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Snowballs in Hell

I can report that I have received a number of apologies from ArbCom, over procedural failings. Not, it is true, over anything substantive, but I live in hope. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 19:55, 5 July 2015 (UTC).

Interesting. Did you see "Hope" quite high up? - I kept it from last year, and also live in hope. Why is hell mentioned so often in the context? - I sometimes have crazy dreams, like the TFA process becoming more democratic (came true), now Misplaced Pages without AE. I didn't dare to dream of an arbitrator taking my workshop suggestion to an article, but it happened. Ode to Hope ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:49, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

Indeed I saw your hatted note, and your quotation there, so the mention of Hell is not random. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 21:39, 5 July 2015 (UTC).

Your experience must be much worse than mine, - I just find it a bit kafkaesque to have been accused of battlegound on a clean blocklog and not a single case of 3RR, but such is life, - amusing in a way, - can't help to read "evidence" with a grain of irony. Did you know that a friend was almost banned (a third time) because he uncollapsed an infobox? Things look brighter for him now ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:51, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

LOL, SilkTork wanted to site ban Andy? Oh dear... Alakzi (talk) 22:13, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

Wasn't the only one to think banning Andy would solve the infobox problem. I sometimes wonder at what "evidence" arbs and their enforcers look. - Example Talk:Laurence Olivier#Infobox: my edits were discussed at AE, the others are free - or left in frustration. - I simply believe that some readers prefer to read a lead, others an infobox, and we should serve both. - could be so easy. I dream of a time when the readers have more say ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:45, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

re

Usually the user pages of banned users will be replaced with {{Banned}}, for example.--GZWDer (talk) 06:00, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

There are other examples (User:Ottava Rima, User:The Call of the Wild, User:Kiefer.Wolfowitz), + even if it is "usual", you don't have to do it, - it removes potentially helpful information for readers. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:12, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

A notion

Gerda, would you like to collaborate on an article for WoO 152-154 and/or one for Beethoven's folk arrangements in general? Snow 05:23, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Sure, in sloth mode ;) - Model: Ah! perfido --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:29, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, that looks about right to me, although longer and with a more sectioned structure should it be one article with a broad focus, rather than for one particular opus. Anyway, sloth mode works fine by me.  :) I'll start with a resource hunt and see what the sources suggest as to how to group them (that is, an article per opus, articles on each of the different types of folk song arrangements, or one the arrangements broadly). I'll let you know what I turn up for sources generally! Snow 05:42, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

A model for one topic covering several of the same might be Cantiones sacrae (Schütz) or (better) the more recent Carl Nielsen works: have a sortable table for the single entries and handle those extra who deserve more, - actually any advanced Bach cantata does the same in the music section, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:58, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Some baklava for you!

Thanks for being nice to a relatively new Wikipedian! — k_scheik 16:41, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

Reminds me that I forgot to mention how I liked you passing palafel ;) - thank you! I like to share, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:39, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

Fmt

I removed 'alt' as it was not being used; added 'image_size' as it is a standard parameter; and removed the death parameters as they were also not being used. Feel free to re-add them if you wish, I won't remove them again. GiantSnowman 14:19, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

'Image_size' should be used, as far as I was aware, when images are too large. GiantSnowman 14:35, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Image size in pixels is expressly discouraged by the IUP; see WP:THUMBSIZE. Infobox thumbnails default to frameless, which is either (a) the value of your image size setting (220 px unless you've changed it), or (b) the original resolution of the image if it is smaller than 220 px. Alakzi (talk) 14:38, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Barnstar for work on Jon Vickers

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		for your work in referencing Jon Vickers which resulted in the article being posted to WP:ITN. μηδείς (talk) 21:36, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for helping with creating this

I think you may be interested in Misplaced Pages:WikiProject XX as you have helped in bringing it to life ..... today. Victuallers (talk) 09:06, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

Many thanks

Thank you so much for your exceedingly kind words. What with all the nastiness in the world today and the (all too frequent) incivility and vandalism on Misplaced Pages, it truly makes my day to read such a thoughtful, considerate compliment.

Best,

GAB (talk) 23:06, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

User:GeneralizationsAreBad, I just fell in love with your user name ;) - Do you know that I see a lot of incivility, but not so much in an occasional "bad word"? (Want to comment here?) - Now, you even get blocked for missing spine and thoughts in a group of people. Sunday sermon: examine my heart, 292 years old, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:33, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, I'm collecting uncivil edit summaries and making them into userboxes. It's going quite well. GAB (talk) 13:25, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Good to know, will feed your collection when I meet one ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:09, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

I used to have a collection... will remember that there's a new home! Montanabw 08:49, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of When Lilacs Last in the Dooryard Bloom'd

The article When Lilacs Last in the Dooryard Bloom'd you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:When Lilacs Last in the Dooryard Bloom'd for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Jaguar -- Jaguar (talk) 17:41, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Thank you

For mediating on Talk:Zourafa. Much appreciated. Alakzi (talk) 12:46, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Translation of the text of Bruckner's lieder

Dear Gerda,

I have added a draft translation of the text of the four lieder Wie bist du, Frühling, gut und treu, Herbstkummer, Mein Herz und deine Stimme, and Im April.

I would be you very grateful, if you could find some time for reviewing these four attempts to translation.

Best regards, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 14:22, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Nice. There might be a translation for the Geibel somewhere. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:34, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the review.

You are right, there a translation for the Geibel available on You damp spring evening]. Would I perhaps take it over? --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 16:39, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

I would use it as external link, - there may be copyright problems, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:45, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

The is also a translation for Mein Herz und deine Stimme on the same site: Her voice... --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 16:48, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your review of my last draft translations. All the vocal works with a German text have now an English translation.

I let Hans Roelofs and John Berky know that "all Bruckner's works have now their own descriptive page on the English Misplaced Pages, except the (small) piano and organ works, which have an overview page". John was so enthused about it, that he put it in his "Latest news!!": Reginald Hulhoven and the Bruckner Misplaced Pages Page. Many thanks again for your appreciated help. --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 20:46, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Schauet doch und sehet, ob irgend ein Schmerz sei, BWV 46

The article Schauet doch und sehet, ob irgend ein Schmerz sei, BWV 46 you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Schauet doch und sehet, ob irgend ein Schmerz sei, BWV 46 for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Jaguar -- Jaguar (talk) 20:21, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Danke sehr!

I have one of these now in bloom at home, so thought I would share it with you. We hope (talk) 22:06, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Sehr schön! The flower on top blooms at my home now. You are the (only) one to whom I wanted to give Precious but Dr. Blofeld was faster ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:13, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

We had the lilies in the garden at the house I grew up in, so it reminds me of home. My anthurium is a house plant. Always liked them because they look like they're not real, but they are. Dr. Blofeld works very quickly--sometimes it's hard to keep up with him. ;) We hope (talk) 22:40, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Type

Hi Gerda,

I have in the meantime reverted my redundant changes for the three Bruckner's numbered masses.

About Talk:Cantata academica: I agree with your point of view, and do not understand why Nikki remains so obstinate, alike a dog gnawing at a bone... I think, that an infobox has to be informative and accurate (alike the summaries used by Harten in Bruckners Handbuch), but it should also not contain too much info. The picture should be intended to add info about the concerned composition, dedication, etc.

Best regards, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 09:18, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Say that there? - Problem is that "creator" has some extra say on "style" - as if infobox was style. I am not the creator, but nor is she. (Arbcom "clarified" that you are only the creator if you turned red link to blue. It's kafkaesque.) I assume good faith and see no relation in her being interested in the article after I made an edit to it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:27, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Sorry! I did perhaps not fully understand the "Kafkaesque" context of this discussion... Whatever the context, as I wrote, I believe, that an infobox should be informative and accurate (alike the summaries used by Harten in Bruckners Handbuch). If a picture is added, it should add info about the concerned composition, dedication, etc. See your discussion about Beethoven's Mass No. 1... Best regards, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 10:08, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Kafkaesque: the arbs ruled that I "created" an article only if I turned the red link to blue, not if I expanded a two-line stub to a GA.

What you say is all good but please say it on the cantata article. The other - kafkaesque - ruling was that we have to decide from article to article, and that what has been found on Beethoven's work (or Beethoven himself) is of no relevance for the cantata, - quite logical in a concept where the "creator" has more to say than the reader. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:24, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

I will add my opinion, i.e.: Whatever the context ("creator" or "reader"), I believe, that an infobox should be informative and accurate (alike the summaries used by Uwe Harten in Bruckners Handbuch). If a picture is added, it should add info about the concerned composition, dedication, etc. --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 10:39, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Schauet doch und sehet, ob irgend ein Schmerz sei, BWV 46

On 9 August 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Schauet doch und sehet, ob irgend ein Schmerz sei, BWV 46, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that for the Qui tollis of his Mass in B minor, Bach reworked music on Jeremiah's lament about the destruction of Jerusalem from his cantata Schauet doch und sehet, ob irgend ein Schmerz sei, BWV 46? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Schauet doch und sehet, ob irgend ein Schmerz sei, BWV 46. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 16:41, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Commemorative Cantata for the Centenary of the Birth of Pushkin

On 10 August 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Commemorative Cantata for the Centenary of the Birth of Pushkin, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Alexander Glazunov's (pictured) Commemorative Cantata for the Centenary of the Birth of Pushkin is filled with "warmly lyrical ideas" despite being set to Konstantin Romanov's "doggerel"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Commemorative Cantata for the Centenary of the Birth of Pushkin. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 04:26, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Type for Bruckner's Motets

Dear Gerda,

I agree with your suggestion to change the type "]" to "]". It will indeed then focus to Bruckner's motets. I will do it.

Thanks for this suggestion! --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 14:49, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Done. --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 15:10, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Excellent! There are other possibilities, for all types where an article is dedicated to a group, of course ;) - For some, that might be reason enough to revive parameter form, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:22, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

When applicable, I have indeed added the "form": Hymn, Marian hymn, Antiphon, Marian antiphon, Gradual, Offertory, Responsorium, Absoute, Elegy, Chorale... --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 16:31, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Mein Herze schwimmt im Blut, BWV 199

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Mein Herze schwimmt im Blut, BWV 199 you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Montanabw -- Montanabw (talk) 21:00, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Need some advice on DYKs

Hello, Gerda. I'm trying to put together my first DYK, and I need someone to tell me if I've done it correctly: Template:Did you know nominations/Mesa Verde National Park. Would you mind taking a look at it? RO 19:29, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

I'm sure Gerda won't mind me being nosy and pushing in; the hook is too long (it can be 200 characters at the maximum), the DYK article needs highlighting in bold, and there is no need to put a ref in the hook (you shouldn't put one). Apart from that it looks fine. Belle (talk) 19:34, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

You also should have selected GA as the status in the nomination template to make it output the "Improved to Good Article status by" text, but that's just an aid to reviewers really. Belle (talk) 19:42, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Okay. I'll try to remember that next time. I trimmed the blurb down, so is it short enough now? RO 19:50, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

We will get there ;) - but please if you ask me to do something don't touch the thing until I'm done, - edit conflicts, - I almost forgot to add "pictured" a third time, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:56, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Okay. Sorry about that. Are you going to add that as a second hook option, or do you want me to? RO 19:58, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

By being in the nom template, it is already added, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:04, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Okay. Is there a way to add the picture of Cliff Palace too? Or will that get done if that hook is chosen? RO 20:07, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

ALT1 comes with the image of Cliff Palace, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:11, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Wait, I saw it but not anymore, will dig into that. They recently made a new template for images ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:14, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Image back, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:19, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

RO, the problem with the original hook is that it refers to Mesa Verde, not Mesa Verde National Park (you don't remember what a minefield DYK is for new nominators once you are sucked into the hive; bzzz; bzzz). Belle (talk) 20:02, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

But I thought it was interesting that the park should probably be called Cuesta Verde National Park, so that's about the park's name. Anyway, thanks for giving me some advice here. I'm sure I'll figure it out. RO 20:07, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Gerda, I made another one: Template:Did you know nominations/Rock 'N' Roll Comics. Could you please take a look when you get a chance? RO 22:04, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

First get rid of the tag on top, not be removing but sourcing ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:08, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, but which tag? RO 22:13, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Second: not new (2006), not expanded five times during the last week, not recently made GA. Looks like GA would be the only way to make it eligible, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:10, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Rock 'N' Roll Comics was created today, but I suppose I've confused things by mentioning the parent company? RO 22:13, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Mind-reading isn't one of my abilities ;) - Can you sue a book? Needs rewording, not just replacement, also needs (pictured) behind what is pictured, context needed, not any pretty picture from the article, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:21, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Image has to be in the article, not any pretty picture illustrating anything in the hook.- For the hook: suing is interesting, but how about telling people something about the book, nudity, drugs, seems all there, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:26, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the hints. I just realized that lots of the content was spun off the Revolutionary Comics article, so maybe this was a bad choice anyway, but I got it from the list here of new articles provided at the DYK page. RO 22:42, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Learning by doing ;) - bedtime here, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:47, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Boys will be boys

G, I'm pretty sure both Ceradon and Ritchie are both male: . Cheers. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 20:20, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Sure is one thing, pretty sure another ;) - I could say that I am pretty sure that Alakzi is a woman, - too clever for a boy ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:18, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Could be. Perhaps you should ask him/her. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 21:24, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

It doesn't matter to me ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:27, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

The cat is curious. Just as I would be somewhat surprised to find out you're a man, Gerda. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 21:37, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Curious cat, then ask. I have a lot of compassion for Alakzi - as for other victims - but no intention to marry ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:59, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

ps: see also my dangerous dreams --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:03, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

I come bearing a template that provides (partial) answers:

• {{gender|Ceradon}} = he
• {{gender|Ritchie333}} = he
• {{gender|Alakzi}} = they

--Floquenbeam (talk) 22:08, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

More than about gender, I would care about winning Alakzi back to this project, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:20, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

I can't find a template for that. --Floquenbeam (talk) 22:22, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Read the amnesty dreams marked dangerous, and don't expect an unblock request, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:35, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Ah, haven't been around today and wasn't up to speed, I didn't realize they'd been blocked. Dysfunction (institutional and personal): 463,792 - Misplaced Pages:0. --Floquenbeam (talk) 22:38, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Blocked three times, first time a harmless mistake, second time a big mistake, third time - no fitting words. Unblock if you have courage, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:42, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Not a matter of courage, a matter of figuring out the right thing. Hang on... --Floquenbeam (talk) 23:12, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

thank you, - will try to sleep, dreaming of more wisdom like this: "If you step on someone's toes, and they yell at you, and you have an issue with their tone, you could at least move your foot first." --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:19, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

What the hell just happened? I go to dinner for an hour, and Nuclear Warfare breaks out? I am stunned and deeply saddened, and not quite sure I understand what has occurred. I spoke my piece on the SPI talk page, but I have no idea if anyone is listening at this point. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 23:48, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

I don't know. Thank you, Floq, for unblock. I don't think I ever dared to use a short version of your name before, but feel understood and like rhymes. Relieved, but I will not yet remove the green "just" from my sorrowbox - because would you keep editing in a place treating you like this? (like I do.) - and the dedication of spirit and soul become confused to Alakzi seems quite right at this point, gone or not (I hope not). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:37, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Percussion Concerto No. 2 (MacMillan)

Hello! Your submission of Percussion Concerto No. 2 (MacMillan) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! ~ Rob 09:54, 14 August 2015 (UTC)